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So close yet so far.

Our line didn't come through today. Carr was injured as a result. Hopefully he won't out long. Jaboo showed he can't come through yet again. Our defense did it's job mostly. Still crazy how the refs quit calling the game as they did earlier in the game .

If you take Sheed's TD on the return, the offense let us down bigly.

No excuses. We should have won... just didn't.

Off to next week.

Small consolation... Denver is getting blasted by Miami 70-20 so far .

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A team with strong leadership makes a change at OC this week.

I said we should trade Payton within the division. I am happy with what we got for him, but I wish we could have robbed a closer rival. There just isn't a precedent for a coach winning the Super Bowl with 2 teams, and most coaches are stale in their second act unless they came up just short in their first act and still have that chip on their shoulder.

Shaheed needs to be more than the 3rd look. Thomas should be the #3 WR. Shaheed can run farther by the 3rd look than Carr or Winston can throw and our oline usually can't hold that long anyway.

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Ahhh Saints, finding a way to ruin my Sunday as always.

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Got a bad feeling Carr is done, it's being reported that he is at a Green Bay hospital for testing.

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O line play continues to be a problem. Even Ramz looks bad.

GB were missing key pieces and found a way.

Coaches, offensive game plan, the ENTIRE OLINE & offense didn’t help the defense at all today. They were on the field the entire game.

Blowing a 17 point LEAD with GB missing key players is unacceptable.

This all falls on LD BELL (Dennis Allen).

Unbelievable.

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I hear the toilet flushing. Can you?

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I observe through social media commentary that most people watch football but don’t know football. I wouldn’t even dwell on this week. Hopefully Carr isn’t out for any length of time. We get Kamara back next week. I’d be searching for trades on the offensive line. We’re stuck with Carmichael and his piss poor plays. Keep moving forward.

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3 in the first half, 15 points in the second. They figured something out or our defense didn’t adjust.

O-Line let the QB get hurt but didn’t do anything to help them put up 15 in the second half.

HC is a liability from what I heard about 2minute play calling.

With the exception of big plays just not a very good all round it seems.

This is what Dennis Allen was going into this game 16–38 (.296).

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It does take a few weeks to get the offense on step but losses early in the season to NFC teams have always bit us in the ass later.

Play quality can be improved, play calling quality generally can not and Dennis doesn’t know any better.

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The Dolphins should be interesting when they get their offense in sync. They looked pretty good this week. I am skeptical of the whole just takes a few weeks argument, because its not like any other teams played 10 week preseasons, and we only have to outscore the opposing offenses to win. Yeah, we have a new QB, but the same HC, OC, receivers, TE, most of the same oline, most other teams have changes too.

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Make all the excuses y’all want… that’s what a fan will do. Piss poor offensive line, no back up plan if an average QB goes down (and down he went), no running game to eat up clock and move the chains, a defense that had no choice but to get gassed and burnt…. It all falls on the front office doorstep. Y’all can give Dennis Allen and the whole coaching staff a pass again and again, but DIEHARD FANS could see last season, this season, and probably more seasons like this coming from a million miles away, when Drew was in decline, and SP saw the door. Team (mis)management DID NOT PREPARE TO WIN.

Y’all can talk about “rebuilding” and how it takes time, but you still see Winston hanging around (with or without protection), and you KNOW he’s not the answer. Y’all see the same ridiculous play calling that allows 17 points (10 of which were from Special Team) to be completely squandered…

Most painful is the fact that there are some MONSTER PLAYMAKERS on this team, which is a team so poorly managed and coached, we get to see what we saw today… “But wait! There’s more!” The Season has only just begun!

There’s my Nega-Rant. And I don’t need to be reminded of the seasons that were more pathetic than this one. This one is the one that counts. And we’re not prepared to WIN IT.

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I can understand that people are unhappy that we lost the game but things to remember are:

We only lost by one point!

The team were bound to be a little deflated after watching their new starting QB walk off!

We get Kamara back next game, so hopefully more running plays!

We ARE 2-1 not 0-3!

Plenty of season to go yet!

Falcons lost today! Yaaaaay!

Keep the faith Saints fans!!! Geaux Saints!!!!!!

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While I appreciate your optimism and enthusiasm, I can't share them right now.

Good for you for being a fan though. (And I don't mean for that to sound condescending)

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Three scenarios:

A. Kamara is effective behind this oline.

B. Kamara is ineffective running behind this oline and has to spend too much time 'chipping' to help much in the passing game.

C. Kamara is injured behind this oline.

I think A is least likely.

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You kinda loss me there boss.

1, 2, 10 … it’s still chalked up as an L in the books.

Saints had no business losing today. Especially with a 3 score lead at the half.

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BOOM.

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Holy mother of... I thought you were kidding about the 70 part until I looked it up. That's insane!

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That's like a Tecmo Bowl score. My God!

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And you get to gloat. Happy days are here again.

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The bottom dwellers are feeding, Q.

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Nah that’s not gloating. It’s seeing things as they ARE at the present moment.

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What happens if Derek Carr has a serious injury that puts his career in question long term, but we can't afford to get under the salary cap without restructuring his contract and we can't afford to move on due to the dead money that would hit, and his agent demands we guarantee his 2025 and 2026 salaries in order for him to agree to the restructure? This why I don't like leveraging the cap to the max. I am not sure we have options for an unexpected situation like this. I think Carr could plausibly demand an extension and if we say no, we could plausibly default on the 2024 salary cap and be unable to sign any draft picks and get fined millions.

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Yeah. It’s gloating. You are lying to yourself if you don’t realize it. Congrats!

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And what happens if Derek Carr leaves a game when we’re up by 17? LMFAO

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I saw the Miami score. All I can say is f*** Sean Payton
Miami 727 yards of offense. Clinic

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Wow…

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Haven’t seen the score? Miami- 70 / Denver - Does it matter?

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Get over this crap, Bako. It never ends. Losing is bad enough but then to have to come in here and see your same tired rhetoric makes me want to throw up. Nothing personal, but it gets really old.

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Grupe makes the kick and everyone would be excited. Yeesh.

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To be perfectly honest, we SUCKED CHEESEBALLZ TODAY. Go ahead, say it.

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You get to gloat. That’s a good thing right?

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No. We lose 18 - 17. FACT. And that’s a BAD THING.

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Not if you get a chance to gloat. Happy days!

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Please. Throw up. The rest of us did more than an hour ago.

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Gluttony can do that. Too much of a good thing, you know.

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Nope. A bad, sad day. FACT.

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No. It was today’s game.

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You can’t score 20 points in a game ? With those WRs? Hill? Jimmy (redzone)? That’s on coaching.

Bad coordinator, oline = L’s on Sunday.

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Simply put, you can’t blow 17 point leads in the 4th quarter. These are the losses that come back to haunt you so the end of year. This was an embarrassing loss.

The coaching staff was badly out coached today. GB had tons of injuries and we didn’t exploit them. GB made the adjustments and we had no answer.

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That was not an answer to my question, because there isn't an answer. The dirty truth behind Mickeynomics post-Brees with 100% leverage is that if a big contract goes south, we have no out. Especially Carr. He has all the leverage. I always said that was a bad idea, and you can't expect not to hear it.

Also, I seem to recall the Jets losing a QB earlier this year. And they didn't have a lead. And their backup is worse. And they were playing a much better opponent. But their head coach and OC, those guys are better. And so they won. So yeah, you can weather a shock. You can still win. But you need a leader. Dennis Allen is lieutenant, a solid DC. He ain't a leader. He is what would have happened to the Jets if Hackett was the head coach in that game not the OC.