DC4's AC Injury

frydaddy · 09-26-2023, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

Dude… When we win, we CELEBRATE. When we set ourselves up for failure, we make no excuses. It sucks, and as fans, we deserve better.

Vast majority of the folks here agree with you man. If I could give you some advice though, I'd suggest blocking Guido. You'll still see a lot of his posts, because people quote him relentlessly, mostly when they're arguing with him..but it does help a little. You'll never be able to reason with him, and he'll always resort to name calling and questioning your fanhood for daring to have an opinion that differs from his own. You're more likely to have a meaningful conversation with a wall than with him.

BakoSaint · 09-26-2023, 09:35 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And what are YOUR excuses going to be when we win? Or are you hoping we lose so you don't have to deal with it?

By win I am going to assume you mean have a successful season. If we have a successful season I will admit I was wrong about some things and apparently we could still contend.

Here is how I would define a successful season:

Actual successful season: We make the playoffs and either win 2+ playoff games or at least at a minimum for this year to show growth we win the first game by more than 10 and lose the second game by less than 10.

Gray area season: We have a winning record, perhaps get a wildcard or the title of a weak division, and maybe if we face a really weak opponent the ball bounces our way in a tight game in the first round of the playoffs and we slay the dragon that is green bay, seattle with drew lock filling in, nyg, etc. But even if all that goes right we get trounced in round 2 and its clear we are not real championship contenders.

Unsuccessful season: We have a losing record.

If we have a successful season by my standards I will admit I was wrong about multiple aspects of my evaluation of our team. If we have a gray area season you will probably feel we are one player away and need to go all in while I will feel we are an aging mediocre team and need to start fresh with a youth movement and changes at the top, agree to disagree. If we have a losing season I hope you will see that there is no sense retaining a head coach with 5 straight losing seasons in that role who can’t win with the most all-in f-the-cap approach in the league and his hand picked most expensive free agent qb. Obviously I want Loomis gone too if we have a losing season, but at a minimum he would need to fire this coach who you all said had us destined for 12-5 this year and last.

Sinner · 09-26-2023, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by frydaddy

Vast majority of the folks here agree with you man. If I could give you some advice though, I'd suggest blocking Guido. You'll still see a lot of his posts, because people quote him relentlessly, mostly when they're arguing with him..but it does help a little. You'll never be able to reason with him, and he'll always resort to name calling and questioning your fanhood for daring to have an opinion that differs from his own. You're more likely to have a meaningful conversation with a wall than with him.

Appreciate the tip. Unfortunately, I could literally copy and paste exactly what I communicated to him last year, word for word… and it would apply to exactly what we’re going through this season.

Sinner · 09-26-2023, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

By win I am going to assume you mean have a successful season. If we have a successful season I will admit I was wrong about some things and apparently we could still contend.

Here is how I would define a successful season:

Actual successful season: We make the playoffs and either win 2+ playoff games or at least at a minimum for this year to show growth we win the first game by more than 10 and lose the second game by less than 10.

Gray area season: We have a winning record, perhaps get a wildcard or the title of a weak division, and maybe if we face a really weak opponent the ball bounces our way in a tight game in the first round of the playoffs and we slay the dragon that is green bay, seattle with drew lock filling in, nyg, etc. But even if all that goes right we get trounced in round 2 and its clear we are not real championship contenders.

Unsuccessful season: We have a losing record.

If we have a successful season by my standards I will admit I was wrong about multiple aspects of my evaluation of our team. If we have a gray area season you will probably feel we are one player away and need to go all in while I will feel we are an aging mediocre team and need to start fresh with a youth movement and changes at the top, agree to disagree. If we have a losing season I hope you will see that there is no sense retaining a head coach with 5 straight losing seasons in that role who can’t win with the most all-in f-the-cap approach in the league and his hand picked most expensive free agent qb. Obviously I want Loomis gone too if we have a losing season, but at a minimum he would need to fire this coach who you all said had us destined for 12-5 this year and last.

This coach needs maybe three or four more years to develop a style, and maybe some grey stubble on his chin. Meanwhile, don those rose colored glasses and wait…

AsylumGuido · 09-27-2023, 08:07 AM

Originally Posted by frydaddy

Vast majority of the folks here agree with you man. If I could give you some advice though, I'd suggest blocking Guido. You'll still see a lot of his posts, because people quote him relentlessly, mostly when they're arguing with him..but it does help a little. You'll never be able to reason with him, and he'll always resort to name calling and questioning your fanhood for daring to have an opinion that differs from his own. You're more likely to have a meaningful conversation with a wall than with him.

I seldom, if ever, resort to name calling. I do debate issues, especially when someone makes a false claim. I have called out someone's ignorance on occasion, but that is not calling someone a name. Ignorance is not a label, it is a description. I'll be the first to admit my ignorance on many subjects, including what goes on inside of NFL front offices and locker rooms. I feel that most of the active members here are very intelligent, but that doesn't mean at times that there are instances where we can show our ignorance on certain topics.

It's interesting that you bring up name calling because I am fairly confident that I have been (correctly defined) "called a name" a hundred, nay, a thousand fold over what someone may have erroneously interpreted as my doing the same.

Yes, by all means, please block me since all you ever post here are uninformed attacks on me anyway.

Now, enjoy your day as I plan to enjoy mine.

Who Dat!!

AsylumGuido · 09-27-2023, 08:22 AM

K Major · 09-27-2023, 09:04 AM

Ice up Carr.

Not sure what happened to the oline this season.
They held up better protecting Dalton last year.

This is an experienced group full of 1st/2nd rounders.

Expect Todd Bowles defense to blitz until the Saints can figure it out.

Boston Saint · 09-27-2023, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Ice up Carr.

Not sure what happened to the oline this season.
They held up better protecting Dalton last year.

This is an experienced group full of 1st/2nd rounders.

Expect Todd Bowles defense to blitz until the Saints can figure it out.

Chuck it deep. Olave and Shaheed can run and get it.

Rugby Saint II · 09-27-2023, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Ice up Carr.

Not sure what happened to the oline this season.
They held up better protecting Dalton last year.

This is an experienced group full of 1st/2nd rounders.

Expect Todd Bowles defense to blitz until the Saints can figure it out.

I blame the O line coach.

AsylumGuido · 09-27-2023, 02:53 PM

09-26-2023, 08:23 PM	#31
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,947 Blog Entries: 1	Re: DC4's AC Injury Originally Posted by Sinner Dude… When we win, we CELEBRATE. When we set ourselves up for failure, we make no excuses. It sucks, and as fans, we deserve better. Vast majority of the folks here agree with you man. If I could give you some advice though, I'd suggest blocking Guido. You'll still see a lot of his posts, because people quote him relentlessly, mostly when they're arguing with him..but it does help a little. You'll never be able to reason with him, and he'll always resort to name calling and questioning your fanhood for daring to have an opinion that differs from his own. You're more likely to have a meaningful conversation with a wall than with him. iceshack149, jnormand, Sinner and 1 others like this.

09-26-2023, 09:35 PM	#32
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 1,760	Re: DC4's AC Injury Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And what are YOUR excuses going to be when we win? Or are you hoping we lose so you don't have to deal with it? By win I am going to assume you mean have a successful season. If we have a successful season I will admit I was wrong about some things and apparently we could still contend. Here is how I would define a successful season: Actual successful season: We make the playoffs and either win 2+ playoff games or at least at a minimum for this year to show growth we win the first game by more than 10 and lose the second game by less than 10. Gray area season: We have a winning record, perhaps get a wildcard or the title of a weak division, and maybe if we face a really weak opponent the ball bounces our way in a tight game in the first round of the playoffs and we slay the dragon that is green bay, seattle with drew lock filling in, nyg, etc. But even if all that goes right we get trounced in round 2 and its clear we are not real championship contenders. Unsuccessful season: We have a losing record. If we have a successful season by my standards I will admit I was wrong about multiple aspects of my evaluation of our team. If we have a gray area season you will probably feel we are one player away and need to go all in while I will feel we are an aging mediocre team and need to start fresh with a youth movement and changes at the top, agree to disagree. If we have a losing season I hope you will see that there is no sense retaining a head coach with 5 straight losing seasons in that role who can’t win with the most all-in f-the-cap approach in the league and his hand picked most expensive free agent qb. Obviously I want Loomis gone too if we have a losing season, but at a minimum he would need to fire this coach who you all said had us destined for 12-5 this year and last. Rugby Saint II and Sinner like this.
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09-26-2023, 09:58 PM	#33
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 2,768	Re: DC4's AC Injury Originally Posted by frydaddy Vast majority of the folks here agree with you man. If I could give you some advice though, I'd suggest blocking Guido. You'll still see a lot of his posts, because people quote him relentlessly, mostly when they're arguing with him..but it does help a little. You'll never be able to reason with him, and he'll always resort to name calling and questioning your fanhood for daring to have an opinion that differs from his own. You're more likely to have a meaningful conversation with a wall than with him. Appreciate the tip. Unfortunately, I could literally copy and paste exactly what I communicated to him last year, word for word… and it would apply to exactly what we’re going through this season. K Major likes this.
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09-26-2023, 10:02 PM	#34
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 2,768	Re: DC4's AC Injury Originally Posted by BakoSaint By win I am going to assume you mean have a successful season. If we have a successful season I will admit I was wrong about some things and apparently we could still contend. Here is how I would define a successful season: Actual successful season: We make the playoffs and either win 2+ playoff games or at least at a minimum for this year to show growth we win the first game by more than 10 and lose the second game by less than 10. Gray area season: We have a winning record, perhaps get a wildcard or the title of a weak division, and maybe if we face a really weak opponent the ball bounces our way in a tight game in the first round of the playoffs and we slay the dragon that is green bay, seattle with drew lock filling in, nyg, etc. But even if all that goes right we get trounced in round 2 and its clear we are not real championship contenders. Unsuccessful season: We have a losing record. If we have a successful season by my standards I will admit I was wrong about multiple aspects of my evaluation of our team. If we have a gray area season you will probably feel we are one player away and need to go all in while I will feel we are an aging mediocre team and need to start fresh with a youth movement and changes at the top, agree to disagree. If we have a losing season I hope you will see that there is no sense retaining a head coach with 5 straight losing seasons in that role who can’t win with the most all-in f-the-cap approach in the league and his hand picked most expensive free agent qb. Obviously I want Loomis gone too if we have a losing season, but at a minimum he would need to fire this coach who you all said had us destined for 12-5 this year and last. This coach needs maybe three or four more years to develop a style, and maybe some grey stubble on his chin. Meanwhile, don those rose colored glasses and wait… K Major likes this.
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09-27-2023, 08:07 AM	#35
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,394	Re: DC4's AC Injury Originally Posted by frydaddy Vast majority of the folks here agree with you man. If I could give you some advice though, I'd suggest blocking Guido. You'll still see a lot of his posts, because people quote him relentlessly, mostly when they're arguing with him..but it does help a little. You'll never be able to reason with him, and he'll always resort to name calling and questioning your fanhood for daring to have an opinion that differs from his own. You're more likely to have a meaningful conversation with a wall than with him. I seldom, if ever, resort to name calling. I do debate issues, especially when someone makes a false claim. I have called out someone's ignorance on occasion, but that is not calling someone a name. Ignorance is not a label, it is a description. I'll be the first to admit my ignorance on many subjects, including what goes on inside of NFL front offices and locker rooms. I feel that most of the active members here are very intelligent, but that doesn't mean at times that there are instances where we can show our ignorance on certain topics. It's interesting that you bring up name calling because I am fairly confident that I have been (correctly defined) "called a name" a hundred, nay, a thousand fold over what someone may have erroneously interpreted as my doing the same. Yes, by all means, please block me since all you ever post here are uninformed attacks on me anyway. Now, enjoy your day as I plan to enjoy mine. Who Dat!!
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