DC4's AC Injury

dizzle88 · 09-29-2023, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Yeah I guess we’ll see on Carr.

Be careful though, this Bucs team is dirty AF. I’d rather a lineman HOLD, than allowing a DT/DE take another shot to our QB. He’s been sacked A LOT (11 times in 11 quarters) already.

Keep an eye 👁️ on Devin White.

Devin White always seems to take Kamara out of the game.

Either that or it's how predictable we are on offense.

Rugby Saint II · 09-30-2023, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Devin White always seems to take Kamara out of the game.

Either that or it's how predictable we are on offense.

Maybe Devin White studies film! If you watch a couple of games it's easy to find our tendencies. Heck, I know where we're going most of the time.

dizzle88 · 09-30-2023, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Maybe Devin White studies film! If you watch a couple of games it's easy to find our tendencies. Heck, I know where we're going most of the time.

Likewise yep, I can call the plays to my wife watching with me, based on formation and personnel.

K Major · 09-30-2023, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Likewise yep, I can call the plays to my wife watching with me, based on formation and personnel.

So what you’re saying is that our OC sucks

?

I’d argue Doug Marrone has been worse.

Boston Saint · 09-30-2023, 02:17 PM

I’d like to see some calls that account for our poor blocking…maybe some quick slants or seam routs. Some quick swing passes out of the back field. Quick passes off three step drops like the Niners use with Purdy. Don’t have the QB hold it long if we can’t hold a pocket. You can still throw deep on quick drops.

rezburna · 09-30-2023, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I’d like to see some calls that account for our poor blocking…maybe some quick slants or seam routs. Some quick swing passes out of the back field. Quick passes off three step drops like the Niners use with Purdy. Don’t have the QB hold it long if we can’t hold a pocket. You can still throw deep on quick drops.

I’ve been crying for the bubble screens since the season started. RPO’s man…RPO’s.

subguy · 09-30-2023, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I’ve been crying for the bubble screens since the season started. RPO’s man…RPO’s.

When the line is; 1) trying to gel, grow and/or find itself
2) just can't protect the QB

It is necessary to release the ball to an outlet. Carr stands in there and takes a sack as if he doesn't try to evade it. I think if he starts against TB we should go for a couple of long ones and loosen 'em up a bit.

rezburna · 09-30-2023, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by subguy

When the line is; 1) trying to gel, grow and/or find itself
2) just can't protect the QB

It is necessary to release the ball to an outlet. Carr stands in there and takes a sack as if he doesn't try to evade it. I think if he starts against TB we should go for a couple of long ones and loosen 'em up a bit.

I’d throw it deep against 1 on 1 coverage every time I see it. We have the athletes.

subguy · 10-01-2023, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I’d throw it deep against 1 on 1 coverage every time I see it. We have the athletes.

Yes...and he has accurate, strong arm

BakoSaint · 09-30-2023, 04:34 PM

Pete Carmichael is running a very similar RPO concept. The QB is asked to hold the ball behind our porous line while all his options execute a chip and then wait for their routes to develop until his only two options are to get the runs or piss his pants. Its called the Runs Piss Option and Carmichael and Marrone can be credited with inventing it. We also execute a lot of screens. First Carr got executed and then he watched the rest of the game on a screen.

09-29-2023, 05:06 PM	#1
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,535	Re: DC4's AC Injury Originally Posted by K Major Yeah I guess we’ll see on Carr. Be careful though, this Bucs team is dirty AF. I’d rather a lineman HOLD, than allowing a DT/DE take another shot to our QB. He’s been sacked A LOT (11 times in 11 quarters) already. Keep an eye 👁️ on Devin White. Devin White always seems to take Kamara out of the game. Either that or it's how predictable we are on offense. Rugby Saint II and Boston Saint like this.

09-30-2023, 11:59 AM	#2
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: DC4's AC Injury Originally Posted by dizzle88 Devin White always seems to take Kamara out of the game. Either that or it's how predictable we are on offense. Maybe Devin White studies film! If you watch a couple of games it's easy to find our tendencies. Heck, I know where we're going most of the time. dizzle88 and Sinner like this.

09-30-2023, 01:18 PM	#3
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,535	Re: DC4's AC Injury Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Maybe Devin White studies film! If you watch a couple of games it's easy to find our tendencies. Heck, I know where we're going most of the time. Likewise yep, I can call the plays to my wife watching with me, based on formation and personnel. jnormand and Sinner like this.

09-30-2023, 01:40 PM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: DC4's AC Injury Originally Posted by dizzle88 Likewise yep, I can call the plays to my wife watching with me, based on formation and personnel. So what you’re saying is that our OC sucks ? I’d argue Doug Marrone has been worse. Rugby Saint II likes this.

09-30-2023, 02:17 PM	#5
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: DC4's AC Injury I’d like to see some calls that account for our poor blocking…maybe some quick slants or seam routs. Some quick swing passes out of the back field. Quick passes off three step drops like the Niners use with Purdy. Don’t have the QB hold it long if we can’t hold a pocket. You can still throw deep on quick drops. SaintFanInATLHELL likes this.

09-30-2023, 02:45 PM	#6
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,099	Re: DC4's AC Injury Originally Posted by Boston Saint I’d like to see some calls that account for our poor blocking…maybe some quick slants or seam routs. Some quick swing passes out of the back field. Quick passes off three step drops like the Niners use with Purdy. Don’t have the QB hold it long if we can’t hold a pocket. You can still throw deep on quick drops. I’ve been crying for the bubble screens since the season started. RPO’s man…RPO’s. Rugby Saint II, BakoSaint and Boston Saint like this.

09-30-2023, 03:29 PM	#7
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,103	Re: DC4's AC Injury Originally Posted by rezburna I’ve been crying for the bubble screens since the season started. RPO’s man…RPO’s. When the line is; 1) trying to gel, grow and/or find itself 2) just can't protect the QB It is necessary to release the ball to an outlet. Carr stands in there and takes a sack as if he doesn't try to evade it. I think if he starts against TB we should go for a couple of long ones and loosen 'em up a bit. rezburna likes this.

09-30-2023, 04:32 PM	#8
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,099	Re: DC4's AC Injury Originally Posted by subguy When the line is; 1) trying to gel, grow and/or find itself 2) just can't protect the QB It is necessary to release the ball to an outlet. Carr stands in there and takes a sack as if he doesn't try to evade it. I think if he starts against TB we should go for a couple of long ones and loosen 'em up a bit. I’d throw it deep against 1 on 1 coverage every time I see it. We have the athletes. K Major likes this.

10-01-2023, 10:08 AM	#9
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,103	Re: DC4's AC Injury Originally Posted by rezburna I’d throw it deep against 1 on 1 coverage every time I see it. We have the athletes. Yes...and he has accurate, strong arm

09-30-2023, 04:34 PM	#10
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,392	Re: DC4's AC Injury Pete Carmichael is running a very similar RPO concept. The QB is asked to hold the ball behind our porous line while all his options execute a chip and then wait for their routes to develop until his only two options are to get the runs or piss his pants. Its called the Runs Piss Option and Carmichael and Marrone can be credited with inventing it. We also execute a lot of screens. First Carr got executed and then he watched the rest of the game on a screen. jnormand, Danno, Sinner and 1 others like this.
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