Saints vs Bucs Game Day Thread

Rell&Gold · 10-01-2023, 03:12 PM

Jimmy Graham over Lucas Krull we got 1 td out of him though

Rell&Gold · 10-01-2023, 03:23 PM

Young guy doesn't mean or guarantee ANYTHING outside of the guy is literally younger. Personally Idc as long as the Saints have an above avg QB commanding the offense question is what do the Saints want?

winmill1 · 10-01-2023, 03:29 PM

Best throw today was Hill in the 1st quarter.

CheramieIII · 10-01-2023, 04:53 PM

We need to cut JW! Carr is a backup at best! Fire Allen and Carmichael! We need to trade MT for a QB and promote someone from the practice squad to take his place! Who can we get as a head coach and OC for the rest of the season! Hell the season is lost anyway with the staff we have! Carr has 2 TD’s and 2 INT’s through four games! That does not look good!! Olave and Saheed need to be fed! We can’t keep running AK and passing to him every down!!!

BakoSaint · 10-01-2023, 05:12 PM

I do not believe we should draft a QB in the 1st round. We need to spend as much of the first 5 rounds drafting oline as possible.

We can't afford to move on from Carr in March 2024, that needs to happen in March 2025. So we will have Carr in 2024. No QB can succeed with our oline and offensive coaches. We need to spend our draft resources beefing up the oline and our financial resources cleaning up the cap by cutting other aging players in 2024 so we can afford to move on to cutting Carr in 2025 if he does not improve with a better oline and coaching. So, it would make more sense to draft a QB in 2025.

Now if some amazing QB our new coaches love slips to the 3rd round in 2024 and we project him as a starter down the road, sure, ok. But not a 1st round pick while we owe Carr $50 million or whatever.

Rell&Gold · 10-01-2023, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I do not believe we should draft a QB in the 1st round. We need to spend as much of the first 5 rounds drafting oline as possible.

We can't afford to move on from Carr in March 2024, that needs to happen in March 2025. So we will have Carr in 2024. No QB can succeed with our oline and offensive coaches. We need to spend our draft resources beefing up the oline and our financial resources cleaning up the cap by cutting other aging players in 2024 so we can afford to move on to cutting Carr in 2025 if he does not improve with a better oline and coaching. So, it would make more sense to draft a QB in 2025.

Now if some amazing QB our new coaches love slips to the 3rd round in 2024 and we project him as a starter down the road, sure, ok. But not a 1st round pick while we owe Carr $50 million or whatever.

Well hypothetically speaking if the Saints were to move on from DA and PC DC is gone too . I don't see a new coaching staff trying to build around DC

BakoSaint · 10-01-2023, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Well hypothetically speaking if the Saints were to move on from DA and PC DC is gone too . I don't see a new coaching staff trying to build around DC

They dont have a choice really. We can restructure contracts to get under the cap but the biggest target to restructure is Carr. If instead, despite Carr’s guaranteed 2024 salary, we cut him and instead accelerate his prorated bonuses hitting as dead cap, we suddenly are an additional $17 million over the cap and have $23 million less to restructure, a swing of $40 million in our cap outlook. That would mean we have to restructure and retain virtually the entire roster besides Carr and we only have enough money left to sign our rookie class and perhaps bring back Mark Ingram as our premier free agent. I think a new coaching staff would rather rebuild by changing over more than one player, and that means moving guys with non guaranteed salaries where we can move more than one. Unless some team would take Carr’s salary, which seems unlikely.

Rell&Gold · 10-01-2023, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

They dont have a choice really. We can restructure contracts to get under the cap but the biggest target to restructure is Carr. If instead, despite Carr’s guaranteed 2024 salary, we cut him and instead accelerate his prorated bonuses hitting as dead cap, we suddenly are an additional $17 million over the cap and have $23 million less to restructure, a swing of $40 million in our cap outlook. That would mean we have to restructure and retain virtually the entire roster besides Carr and we only have enough money left to sign our rookie class and perhaps bring back Mark Ingram as our premier free agent. I think a new coaching staff would rather rebuild by changing over more than one player, and that means moving guys with non guaranteed salaries where we can move more than one. Unless some team would take Carr’s salary, which seems unlikely.

You're right, I didn't know they signed him 4 years though it was 2 year deal with an out in the second year

K Major · 10-01-2023, 08:08 PM

Speaking of LSU …

Ooofff ! Brian Kelly better get it together.

Neither team played any defense either.

rezburna · 10-01-2023, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Speaking of LSU …

Ooofff ! Brian Kelly better get it together.

Neither team played any defense either.

Knew that was a bad hire too. LSU looks like Notre Dame.

10-01-2023, 03:12 PM	#1
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Saints vs Bucs Game Day Thread Jimmy Graham over Lucas Krull we got 1 td out of him though

10-01-2023, 03:23 PM	#2
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Saints vs Bucs Game Day Thread Young guy doesn't mean or guarantee ANYTHING outside of the guy is literally younger. Personally Idc as long as the Saints have an above avg QB commanding the offense question is what do the Saints want?

10-01-2023, 03:29 PM	#3
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10-01-2023, 04:53 PM	#4
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,497 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints vs Bucs Game Day Thread We need to cut JW! Carr is a backup at best! Fire Allen and Carmichael! We need to trade MT for a QB and promote someone from the practice squad to take his place! Who can we get as a head coach and OC for the rest of the season! Hell the season is lost anyway with the staff we have! Carr has 2 TD’s and 2 INT’s through four games! That does not look good!! Olave and Saheed need to be fed! We can’t keep running AK and passing to him every down!!!

10-01-2023, 05:12 PM	#5
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,435	Re: Saints vs Bucs Game Day Thread I do not believe we should draft a QB in the 1st round. We need to spend as much of the first 5 rounds drafting oline as possible. We can't afford to move on from Carr in March 2024, that needs to happen in March 2025. So we will have Carr in 2024. No QB can succeed with our oline and offensive coaches. We need to spend our draft resources beefing up the oline and our financial resources cleaning up the cap by cutting other aging players in 2024 so we can afford to move on to cutting Carr in 2025 if he does not improve with a better oline and coaching. So, it would make more sense to draft a QB in 2025. Now if some amazing QB our new coaches love slips to the 3rd round in 2024 and we project him as a starter down the road, sure, ok. But not a 1st round pick while we owe Carr $50 million or whatever.
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10-01-2023, 05:21 PM	#6
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Saints vs Bucs Game Day Thread Originally Posted by BakoSaint I do not believe we should draft a QB in the 1st round. We need to spend as much of the first 5 rounds drafting oline as possible. We can't afford to move on from Carr in March 2024, that needs to happen in March 2025. So we will have Carr in 2024. No QB can succeed with our oline and offensive coaches. We need to spend our draft resources beefing up the oline and our financial resources cleaning up the cap by cutting other aging players in 2024 so we can afford to move on to cutting Carr in 2025 if he does not improve with a better oline and coaching. So, it would make more sense to draft a QB in 2025. Now if some amazing QB our new coaches love slips to the 3rd round in 2024 and we project him as a starter down the road, sure, ok. But not a 1st round pick while we owe Carr $50 million or whatever. Well hypothetically speaking if the Saints were to move on from DA and PC DC is gone too . I don't see a new coaching staff trying to build around DC

10-01-2023, 05:45 PM	#7
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,435	Re: Saints vs Bucs Game Day Thread Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Well hypothetically speaking if the Saints were to move on from DA and PC DC is gone too . I don't see a new coaching staff trying to build around DC They dont have a choice really. We can restructure contracts to get under the cap but the biggest target to restructure is Carr. If instead, despite Carr’s guaranteed 2024 salary, we cut him and instead accelerate his prorated bonuses hitting as dead cap, we suddenly are an additional $17 million over the cap and have $23 million less to restructure, a swing of $40 million in our cap outlook. That would mean we have to restructure and retain virtually the entire roster besides Carr and we only have enough money left to sign our rookie class and perhaps bring back Mark Ingram as our premier free agent. I think a new coaching staff would rather rebuild by changing over more than one player, and that means moving guys with non guaranteed salaries where we can move more than one. Unless some team would take Carr’s salary, which seems unlikely.
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10-01-2023, 05:48 PM	#8
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Saints vs Bucs Game Day Thread Originally Posted by BakoSaint They dont have a choice really. We can restructure contracts to get under the cap but the biggest target to restructure is Carr. If instead, despite Carr’s guaranteed 2024 salary, we cut him and instead accelerate his prorated bonuses hitting as dead cap, we suddenly are an additional $17 million over the cap and have $23 million less to restructure, a swing of $40 million in our cap outlook. That would mean we have to restructure and retain virtually the entire roster besides Carr and we only have enough money left to sign our rookie class and perhaps bring back Mark Ingram as our premier free agent. I think a new coaching staff would rather rebuild by changing over more than one player, and that means moving guys with non guaranteed salaries where we can move more than one. Unless some team would take Carr’s salary, which seems unlikely. You're right, I didn't know they signed him 4 years though it was 2 year deal with an out in the second year

10-01-2023, 08:08 PM	#9
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,859 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints vs Bucs Game Day Thread Speaking of LSU … Ooofff ! Brian Kelly better get it together. Neither team played any defense either.

10-01-2023, 08:22 PM	#10
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,128	Re: Saints vs Bucs Game Day Thread Originally Posted by K Major Speaking of LSU … Ooofff ! Brian Kelly better get it together. Neither team played any defense either. Knew that was a bad hire too. LSU looks like Notre Dame.