Originally Posted by hitta (Post 982120)

I predict that when Carr gets a good play-caller he's going to prove everyone here doubting him wrong.

Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 982124)

I tend to agree. I don’t mind Carr. I really expected more from him so far though. But I expected more from this team as a whole as well.

Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 982127)

He ain’t quite “It”, just like our Head Coach, and y’all know it. You’re just being too kind.

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 982138)

I'm not sure how much more film study anyone needs to see.

The problem is Pete Carmichael.

How does DCarr go from #1 QBR in play action (2021) to almost last in 2023? Once we get to the red zone (12 trips, 4 tds), we put it in neutral.

There are 2 more teams left to play tonight as we close out week 4, but the Saints are staring at the #32 ranking in the red zone.

Unacceptable.

When you have MT, Olave, Shaheed, AK, Hill, Graham (6'7), DCarr & consistently rank near the bottom or last offensively ... not really sure how this man can keep his job.

Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 982132)

I disagree. I think Carr could do really well with the right coaches teaching him.

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 982149)

This team is full of players that have proven themselves in this league as good players, some great. All of a sudden they all suck? I'm thinking it ain't the players as much as its the coaching (scheming and play calling).

This team is under-achieving massively. Thats gotta be coaching right?

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 982084)

I gotcha and agree.

Remember we had a SB-winning coach (Pedersen) and an SB-winning assistant OC (Bienemy) in the building wasting their time with bogus interviews when the organization apparently wanted in-house "safe & consistent" and chose a losing coach in Dennis. Have you seen what Eric has already done with Sam Howell so far?

Saints coaching stinks in all phases on Metairie Dr. I see low energy from players, bad body language, and getting embarrassed by a divisional foe in our own house.

Pete Carmichael is a terrible play-caller. Very little play-action & predictable on 3rd downs.

Getting torched by Baker Mayfield :rolleyes:? Good lord.

IMO we are in trouble.

Originally Posted by hitta (Post 982106)

I think Dennis Allen's defense is fine. I think what happens is they stay on the field too long and they get worn out and then start to give up chunk plays. I don't think he is a good head coach though. Carmichael has to go though. He's making everyone here think Carr is bad when he isn't the problem. Carr actually has a pretty good completion percentage. We just don't move the chains, mainly because of the playcalling. You don't send everyone to the endzone when you only need 4 yards. You keep picking up first downs and reset your chances; this establishes a rhythm. Carmichael is either overthinking or underthinking. They gave us the underneath routes for the majority of the game. We never went there though and didn't have routes there. We just had drop-off routes and deep patterns. You attack what the defense gives you and get first downs along the way. Carmichael is also the worst red-zone play-caller I've ever seen.

Originally Posted by papz (Post 982119)

The coaching staff needs to be blown up, not the team. We chose the direction we were going in once we signed Carr and re-signed all the guys that we did. For the most part, the talent is there. We just need to find the right guys to get the most out of them. Blowing up the team is not feasible.

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 982138)

I'm not sure how much more film study anyone needs to see.

The problem is Pete Carmichael.
:doh:
How does DCarr go from #1 QBR in play action (2021) to almost last in 2023? Once we get to the red zone (12 trips, 4 tds), we put it in neutral.

There are 2 more teams left to play tonight as we close out week 4, but the Saints are staring at the #32 ranking in the red zone.

Unacceptable.

When you have MT, Olave, Shaheed, AK, Hill, Graham (6'7), DCarr & consistently rank near the bottom or last offensively ... not really sure how this man can keep his job.

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 982109)

I don’t think this team needs to be blown up, but it’s time for some coaching changes beginning with Carmichael. I think this team has plenty of youth and talent and I’m pretty happy with the moves they’ve made to get us to this point as far as the team as a whole is concerned.


Well said papz!


There is a lot of blame to go around right now.