Question for the Forum

[WhoDat!656]

How many times in Saints history has the head coach been fired during the season?

I know Ditka was fired but IIRC it was after the season was over.

[AsylumGuido]

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

How many times in Saints history has the head coach been fired during the season?

I know Ditka was fired but IIRC it was after the season was over.

Three times. None of them under the Bensons.

1970 - Tom Fears > J.D. Roberts

1975 - John North > Ernie Hefferle

1980 - Dick Nolan > Dick Stanfel

Jim Mora and Bum Phillips both resigned during the season.

[MatthewT]

I don't think it ever happened during the Benson era, Mora resigned during the season but did not get fired. During the Mecom era Phillips resigned during the season, Fears was fired during the season, Roberts fired during the preseason, John North fired during the season, Nolan fired during the season.

[AsylumGuido]

The question always asked by the smart football people out there is who do you propose to fill the role? As a GM you'd better have someone definite in mind or your ass is going to be gone, as well. That's why it so rarely happens in the NFL.

[Rugby Saint II]

It might be best if DA took an extended leave of absence.......

[WW_Who_Dat]

Just don’t think they will fire Allen during the season. But his decision to bring Carmichael back as the OC and not replacing him in a timely fashion will in the end costing both of them the jobs.

[Sinner]

THIS would definitely be the Season.

[MatthewT]

Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat

Just don’t think they will fire Allen during the season. But his decision to bring Carmichael back as the OC and not replacing him in a timely fashion will in the end costing both of them the jobs.

Unless the bottom completely falls out, Allen is safe. Matter of fact, if he can get this team to 9 wins he may be considered a genius. That offense is a complete train wreck and needs a complete rebuild, starting from the coaches on down to the players.

[iceshack149]

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The question always asked by the smart football people out there is who do you propose to fill the role? As a GM you'd better have someone definite in mind or your ass is going to be gone, as well. That's why it so rarely happens in the NFL.

[AsylumGuido]

Originally Posted by MatthewT

Unless the bottom completely falls out, Allen is safe. Matter of fact, if he can get this team to 9 wins he may be considered a genius. That offense is a complete train wreck and needs a complete rebuild, starting from the coaches on down to the players.

No thank you to any complete rebuild. That's fine for fans at home that are either not vested or not invested in the team and can stomach multiple years of guaranteed losing carrying the hope that what is on the other side is any better than what we have today.

But those of us firmly vested and actually invested (season ticket holders) would want the team to remain competitive and continue to add pieces necessary to at least keep the hope alive. It's a hard sell to have people wanting to spend good money on tickets, transportation, lodgings, and food knowing that the team has essentially folded the tent and are hoping for a new reveal three or years from now. That doesn't make good business sense.

The offense isn't anywhere near being a total train wreck. We have a banged up offensive line (again) and are experiencing extremely questionable offensive playcalling. There's nothing wrong with the vast majority of the talent however. Those other things are correctible. Whether they'll be corrected or not is another story