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Me too but I was really hoping for Doug Peterson. You may recall, the Saints only did a damn ZOOM interview with Peterson :(

IMO it’s going to take missing the playoffs for Dennis to get fired.

As for Pete C, he’s still here & probably calling the Colts game as if nothing is wrong with this offense.

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Bo Nix is old. He also isn’t good.

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Why is he taking sides in the Carr/Olave pass debocal? I'm sure it's causing decisiveness within the team. I knew it was a bad idea to sign Carr

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You’re joking right? His completion percentage has improved each year in college! It’s over 70% with a QBR of 178! 17 TD’s and 1 INT! He’s not 30!!! I would draft him and I’m sure others would too!

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Maybe DA needs to condense his playbook. There are an awful lot of confused people out there including the Saints players.

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He needs to hand it over to a new Head Coach.

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At this point I would not mind if Dennis Allen made phones calls to Jim Haslett and Mike Ditka to seek a little advice from his predecessors. Say what you want but those coaches won games, made the playoffs (albeit only with the Bears for Ditka), and won playoff games.

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I must admit, watching Joe Horn do his funky end zone thing would be sweet this Sunday. Sure beats watching a grown man cry.

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It's worse than we really know.

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Just to put a bow on the Jaguars game, did anyone catch the post game interview part when the reporter asked Dennis Allen about "why no Jimmy G in the redzone" and his response was a staff decision ... lol, what?!

This guy is totally incompetent to be a HC. Ridiculous.

Anyways, I'm on to Indy :bng: .

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Derek Carr is ranked as the 24th best QB our Oline is the 25th Derek Carr is is just as bad if not worse. The Oline vs the Jags might have actually played their best game of the season and Derek Carr still couldn't get it done. Tyson Bagent is ranked just below him Justin Fields, Baker Mayfield, and Brock Purdy are ranked higher as well as Tyrod Taylor with Giants and 49ers having mower ranked offensive lines than the Saints. Kenny Pickett Gardner Minshew and Baker Mayfield have more TD's Geno Smith Bryce Young Desmond Ridder. He's a below avg QB this oline was pretty bad when Jamie's had 13tds in 5weeks. I don't understand why Carr gets so many excuses. We could have started Haener and got the same production. When they signed Carr I said he should give us at least 2-3 more wins, that is not the case we might actually finish with a worse record than last year.

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The QB Play as well.

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We’re the only team with a positive points for vs points against in the NFC South. We also have scored the most…yet we’re 3-4.

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Rell,

Have you seen the YouTube video from "DaBoot Tragedies" breaking down the offense/ DC yet?

Goodness gracious :rolleyes:. Chris Olave was open for TDs ... 3 seperate occasions, running wide open in the middle of the field yet Carr is becoming Captain Check down. Stop forcing everything to Kamara.

I don't agree with Olave half assing some of his routes, however I'm seeing why he's frustrated. Our QB is leaving TONS of opportunities and points OFF of the scoreboard.

Dennis Allen needs to start calling out his 150M QB & why he's missing open wr's. Can't even put this on the offensive line. He's had time vs Jags.

All eyes on Derek Carr at film study. Be mad at yourself.

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Yeah I did catch that Derek Carr Missed at least 3tds against the Jags. Dennis Allen lost me when he called out Grouoe and Hedley but won't speak on your QB or your OC but you call out Chris for not running top speed on a play where he's not even in the progression Idc what DA does I'm over him as the Saints HC I gave all the optimism I can give with him. He has favorites and picks and chooses who his rules applies to. Derek Carr should have that C removed from his chest. We didn't have these issues with Olave last year. Sometimes I wo der if it's less Pete Carmichael and more Carr. I said it against the Packers when he missed MT wide open in the back of the endzone he's not the guy, he's a guy.

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I hope the reporters start asking them questions that make them uncomfortable DC and DA. "We have to be better" "We've been better at times" "Have to figure out where we need to be better" "Coaches included" "We need to improve our situational football" "Gotta start faster" "Boils down to our ability to execute on defense" "And we have to be better"

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I can't wait for DA to say we have got to be better and have a reporter ask how they plan to do that and then don't let him off the hook until he answers or says next question.

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RAIDERS FIRE HC AND GM… Just like that.

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And that falls squarely on the coaching staff that DA assembled.

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They've been a dumpster fire for a while. They are starting the rookie QB, the pone drafted after "pretty boy" Haener. It'll be interesting to see how he progresses.

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5-5 with an 8-2 team.....the fault is all on the coaches shoulders!

Fire Dennis Allen!:argue:

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Pissed off

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Let me clarify. I want to fire Pete Carmichael before we play Atlanta and see if we can improve under Dennis Allen before the playoffs. Regardless, this team is going nowhere if we make the playoffs under Allens passive demeanor and lackadaisical approach to coaching. He needs to do a better job than repeating keep doing what you're doing. This approach isn't going to fix this teams coaching multiple problems. Grow a a pair!

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Dennis Allen needed to be gone last year.

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Apparently the Saints are 1-11 under Dennis Allen against teams with better than .500 record. That is 1 win in 12 games. If we make the playoffs as winner of the weakest division, all 4 games we would need to win for a championship would most likely be against teams with a better than .500 record. This makes it easy to calculate our chances of a ring if we make the playoffs: 1/12 * 1/12 * 1/12 * 1/12 = 1/(12^4) = 1 in 20,736.

Having more fun with statistics, this is Dennis Allen's 5th season as head coach. If he lucks into the playoffs due to our weak schedule, perhaps he can continue to luck into the playoffs every 5 years.

So to figure out how many years it will take Dennis Allen to bring us a ring we can simply take a 1 in 5 seasons chance of making the playoffs and multiply it by the 1 in 20,736 chance of winning a ring with a 1 in 12 win rate against winning teams. So, if we just keep Dennis Allen as head coach for 103,680 years our patience will be rewarded!

Oh and the 1 win we got against an over .500 team? It was against Philly with Minshew, a predictable let down game of a team knowing they will get a pass without their starter.

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Saints are currently ranked #7 in penalties.

That's a huge problem. Notice the number of false starts in that graph. We are double more than anyone else on DPI. I thought defense was DA's strong suit?

No accountability from Dennis Allen.

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Bills fire OC Ken Dorsey

These are the type of moves ^^^^ that the Saints should be making today, during a bye week. One franchise (Bills) gets embarassed by a non contender on MNF, has aspirations of getting back to the SB & makes an immediate change, and other (Saints) just "hopes" to squeak into the post season & has a HC publicly say "no changes will be made" on the coaching staff after losing to a back up QB on the road :rolleyes: .

Mindset needs to change on Airline Dr.

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I know we complain about our OC and rightfully so, but Ken Dorsey was significantly worse than Carmichael. Mercy was he bad. I'm surprised he made it through more than half the season.

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I think his point is that the Bills had the balls to pull the trigger on their OC. That indicates that the front office has a vested interest in being competitive in the home stretch.

Meanwhile, at the Superdome.... well, it's like that Talking Heads song: Same as it ever was....

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Who is available right now that is a definite upgrade? It would pretty much have to be someone from within at this time. They'd have to work within the existing infrastructure. It's impossible to change much of substance such as the playbook and terminology at this point. Basically the same sort of replacement as was Brady with the Bills. I see Curry as the only option.

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Absolutely agree with all this!
I would love to see Carmichael replaced, and rightly so, but man Allen’s complacency for mediocrity is alarming. The fact that he or Loomis does nothing week after week aggravates the fkn crap out of me

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Curry seems to be a logical jumping off point. I'm of the school that you can't keep doing things the same way, with the same play callers, and expect different results. At this point, we're 5-5 (in a bad division but a chance to win it) with a Bye Week. There won't be a better opportunity to shift gears this season.

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He keeps waiting and expecting for sh*t to click but half of the season has passed and sh*t ain’t clicking. And when the find success (giving Taysom more playing time, etc) the abandon it. It’s frickin maddening.

I know things can be worse, but damn, things can be a lot better too

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On the Overtime podcast they talked about Alontae Taylor being undisciplined. He's playing well after moving to the Nickle this year and he will continue to improve.

It's a team wide lack of focus that is killing this team and it shows in false start drive killing penalties, holding calls by both the offense and defense, poor clock management, poor execution, and just sloppy play in general. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm thinking that Dennis Allen might be in over his head without an Alpha male in the building who can and will hold people accountable. Just sayin'.

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If Josh Dobbs can learn the Vikings playbook well enough to QB them to 2 wins in his first 2 weeks on the team, I reject the assertion that a smart outside coach who doesn't have to work out or physically practice cannot possibly learn our playbook enough during a bye week or even a regular week to provide an upgrade over Carmichael. A new coach could not change our system over night but he could absorb it and look for gradual improvements and better play calls.

But if we wanted someone familiar with our existing system just so Dennis Allen could hire a guy more on his level not an intimidating rocket scientist like Dobbs, I still don't think Curry is the only option. We have been running the same system for over 15 years. That is 15 years of past offensive staff and backup QBs who could be interviewed. Some of our past offensive coaches under Payton may be currently unemployed. Or we could call up Luke McCown, Joey Harrington, Mark Brunell, Chase Daniels, they would know our system.

And honestly, the oline has improved over the course of the season more than the offense in general. Doug Marrone could step up to OC. He can't be worse than Carmichael. At least he adapts and has got the offensive line running better. Our early season oline struggled might be attributed to forcing Penning to start at all costs to justify Loomis, Ireland, and DA's pick and trade to get Penning, and Marrone may have been a victim of that.

None of this is to say Curry is a bad pick. Never met the guy. He might be an amazing dynamic leader and the next star head coach. Or he might be super meak and shy and afraid of leadership and a poor man's Carmichael brought in to make Carmichael feel like the ultimate alpha coach. But I don't see Curry as the only option. We need accountability. Any change removing the guy who is failing now shows accountability, and even changing to a coach who is completely equally incompetent might improve the performance of the team just by sending the message that everyone is accountable and has to prove themselves not just count on a spot because they are in tight with Pete.

As for Pete Carmichael don't worry about him. He stuck with Dalton and Carr over Winston at all costs. There will always be a gun and a badge waiting for him at the Kenner PD.

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Is Dennis Allen gone yet?

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Josh Dobbs didn't learn the playbook. They've been basically playing street ball with him drawing up plays in the dirt.

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Nope.

And the organization will stay stuck in mediocrity.

12-14 as Saints HC :rolleyes:.

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We need an upgrade like Dan Campbell.

19-23-1 as Lions HC :rolleyes:

An organization stuck in mediocrity.

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What happens when you mix some unrelated statistics with some whataboutism, and throw in an unhealthy dose of Xanax, while being a masochist disguised as a Saints Fan? Nothing. “Just keep doing what you’re doing.”