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I'd rather not bring in Harbaugh, who is on probation, if I remember correctly. He's a cheater and we don't need that in this family run organization. If nothing but wins mattered it might be different. But it is unacceptable to me! :no:

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What's your resolution on a new HC Rugs? I personally want a out of the box thinker, accountability coach, leader, perfectionist, you know guys who HATE losing.

We need winners in New Orleans. Not substitute teachers.

Better believe Dan Campbell won't go light on a team (Saints) that fanned him off in a meaningless HC interview a few years back.

Sunday is gonna be brutal to watch. Especially for the Saints fans.

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Me too! We need to clean house and get away from these in house promotions that are stale. What happened to bringing in innovative minds from college?
Leave all nepotism in the rearview mirror.... Fire everybody!

Incidentally,there are plenty of up and coming coaches who would want to coach here. Does anybody remember when we hired an assistant named Payton who turned the franchise around?

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Not a fan of Cowherd but I mostly agree with his comments regarding the Saints coaching.

Front office better wake up.

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"I don't like their coach"

Welcome to the club.

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Cowherd said "undercoached" but I'm thinking it's more like "uncoached"

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They are asleep at the wheel and driving off a cliff. I guess ignorance is bliss.

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He states the obvious similarities with the Chargers, Bills and Saints. All three have a lot of talent on their roster (another reason that I'm not too quick to pull the plug on Loomis) but coaches are holding their respective teams back from competing.
The Saints need an alpha like Harbaugh or some other Mike Tomlin type. I think Antonio Pierce is that guy.

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Again… Loomis said, “We have all the right people in the building.”
You can go ahead and pull the plug on Loomis. Please.

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So is he gone yet? Nope. Not even close…

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Just as TheOak stated in another thread, in only 2 short seasons the substitute teacher has completely reversed a winning culture.

Jimmy G plays, produces in the red-zone and never targeted again. Jamal Williams was a scoring machine last year, this season all of sudden he disappears with this offense.

It would be absolutely ridiculous to even consider bringing back
Dennis Allen & company. This clown 🤡 still thinks
DCarr is immune to criticism.

Get real coaching in NOLA.

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I'm well beyond feeling any degree of apathy towards this team.....please fire everyone so I can feel good about getting out of bed again.

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.323 career record as HC.

The defense has played poorly as well.

New direction is needed and necessary in NOLA.

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22-45. Laughable if he’s not gone in January

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Start laughing now. You’ll be crying in January.

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Lol. Your are most likely correct

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he's done

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At this point I’ll take any offensive minded coach.

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I just can't look at this guy anymore! Everything about him screams Loser at me. I actually have to fast forward the video. As a head coach he sucks but he's a good DC. I wish him good luck elsewhere.

Anyway, Fire Dennis Allen!

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We should replace DA but DA is only 5-10% of the problem. The biggest factor this offseason is whether we accept reality and begin a rebuild or keep drinking the Mickey Loomis Seagrams VO Koolaid and 'make it happen' to add a few 'missing pieces'. I would be happy to settle for keeping DA another year if we can do the responsible thing this offseason and use every ounce of cap flexibility we have to move on from aging, injury prone, or ineffective players while not trading any future draft picks.

If a coach like Reid, Sirianni, or Shannahan slept with the owners daughter and was suddenly cut loose and became our new coach it would not help us much. Perhaps we would make the playoffs but all it would get us is a more respectable margin of loss to the real contenders there. We are not built to win with a mediocre qb, no pass rush, a makeshift oline, and one of the oldest rosters in the NFL, no matter what we have at other positions.

If we got one of those coaches and immediately went 'all in' signing Adams or Higgins at WR, trading our 2025 1st round pick for Aaron Donald, and drafting Brock Bowers with our 1st, it would not matter, because we would still be an old team with questions at QB, OL, and pass rush. No coach will win it all with that. And the cost to do it would leverage us so much that Carr would be our QB in 2027 with all the money we push back.

What we need to do is cut some of the pricey aging vets and avoid restructuring some such as Lattimore and Ramczyk who are likely to hit a wall and become washed sometime in the next few years. We still have to restructure 2/3rds of them to get under the cap, but by only restructuring 2/3rds and using the rest of the money to move on from some, we open up the possibility for a youth movement in 2024-2025 that can still be competitive if we draft a lot of young players instead of trading up, and a clean slate in 2026 with tons of upside.

I hope DA is not the coach in 2024, but whether he is or isn't matters to me 10x less than cleaning the slate on our cap mess. We can't keep rinsing and repeating on the senior tour roster. Every year it continues the damage is deeper.

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DAand the cap are the problems we have to address this offseason. No more restructures to older players who won't see the end of their contract. If they get to the end of their contract then we're paying over the hill players prime money.

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Y’all keep saying “we”, but there AINT no “we” in Gayle Benson.

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We do not have a choice about restructuring to older players. We are $87-89 million over the projected 2024 salary cap depending on whether you go by Spotrac or Overthecap. We cannot cut players to save on the salary cap, they have already been restructured so many times that their dead cap is higher than their salary and it costs us money for the first year to move on, like the early termination fee of that $100 per line cell phone plan that came with the shiny new iPhone 12. We have to restructure most of our older players to avoid breaking the salary cap and facing unprecedented penalties and loss of draft picks for being the first team in NFL history to fail to get under the salary cap for an entire league year. The only choice we have is whether we only restructure as many players as we have to, in order to allow the cap deficit to get a little less severe the following year and begin a rebuild, or whether we restructure everyone under the premise that if we added Davante Adams or whatever we could win it all with an even older roster. What we need to do is only restructure the 2/3rds of veterans we are forced to, and avoid trading any future draft picks, which could be #1 overall in 2025.

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Just wait until she starts getting the cold shoulder from all the other guests who aren't running charities at all her galas and swares. She is about to go from being treated like the first lady of New Orleans to typhoid mary. Then she will look for answers of who ruined her reputation and give Loomis a gold watch instead of the game ball.

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One would almost think that they’re deliberately trying to lose the team to a new location…

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There's a nuclear option to clear most of it next season. Though it leaves little cap in the next 2 years(4ml/21ml roughly) and probably a guaranteed number 1 pick for 2 seasons
All players in gold or pink traded/cut. Its not going to happen as its absolute nuclear blow it up and Loomis would essentially be saying he has made mistakes

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We've got a mid first round pick, Denver's second round pick and then we don't pick again until the fifth round. After that we've got two sixth round picks.

We don't have much ammo to work with to give a new HC a decent roster. So, we'll give DA more rope to hang himself and spend everything to win the division next year......

If DA is here next year, then Loomis will have to go all in again and we are stuck in this vicious circle for another year. And that is what scares me the most! Another year of doing what we're doing!

We can't get the cap under control until we fire Dennis Allen and clear out the bad contracts off the cap.

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I hate to say it Rugs but Dennis is likely retained for 2024 as HC.

Dark days ahead for Saints nation.

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Unfortunately this is not realistic/legal. You are relying mostly on Post June 1 trades to get the team under the cap. Teams are required to be under the salary cap by 4PM ET on March 15. There is no post June 1 designation for trades, only 2 such designations allowed for cuts, and even when that designation is applied to 2 cuts, the money it saves does not come off the cap until June 1. If the Saints exceeded the salary cap from 3/15-5/31 they would face unprecedented penalties, likely the loss of the entire draft and likely future drafts, as no team has ever willfully exceeded the salary cap, and this would involve willfully exceeding it by $80 million for 2.5 months. Also the team would have to find trade partners wanting to acquire all these players in transactions that could not be finalized until June 1 after the draft and being willing to pay their 2024 base salaries, many of which are not neccessarily bargains on older players.

Per wikipedia "The NFL's cap is a hard cap that the teams have to stay under at all times, and the salary floor is also a hard floor. Penalties for violating or circumventing the cap regulations include fines of up to $5 million for each violation, cancellation of contracts and/or loss of draft picks."

Reading further into this, the loss of draft picks is not even the worst thing that could happen to the Saints if the salary cap was willfully exceeded. The NFL could force the Saints to 'cancel contracts' to get under the cap. This does not mean like canceling Derek Carr's horrible contract with guaranteed salary that would actually increase our cap number, it would likely mean cutting the contracts that are not guaranteed and that don't come with dead cap that would exceed the savings. Sounds great we would want to cut those anyway right? Well no. You see the main contracts for us that fit in the category where the base salary exceeds the dead cap are recent day 2 draft picks who did not get big bonuses or base salaries and don't yet have a lot of prorated money that would create dead cap if they were cut to save on their base salaries. Cutting Paulson Adebo saves us $1.3 million. Cutting Pete Werner saves us 1.4 milion. Cutting Alontae Taylor saves us $0.8 million. Cutting Erik McCoy saves us $0.9 millon. Cutting Jordan Howden saves us $0.7 million. If the Saints willfully exceeded the salary cap, the NFL could theoretically forfeit their 2024 and 2025 draft picks and cancel the above contracts while blocking them from signing any players until after June 1 and fining them $5 million an undetermined number of times depending on what they consider each seperate violation.

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So, is he still here?

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Saints should receive comp picks for losing Onyemata, Davenport and Elliss.

Currently projected to be two 5s and one 6.

Which means we're trading up for a small school DE who'll play 3 games in 2 years.

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Yeah but the seats in the dome are nice and cushy, and the lines for the restroom are shorter. Thanks Miss Gayle!

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We'll probably package all of our draft picks to jump up in the draft for a QB. If we win one of these games we'll have to use next year's draft picks too since we will pick later in the draft....as usual.

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We need a new Head Coach.

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Unfortunately, we won't get one until 2025. Pete Carmichael is this years sacrificial lamb. The sad thing is, that means we are tied to him for another full year. We are not the type of organization to change horses midstream and cut him midseason after another crappy start, even though the fans will still be calling for change.

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There will be pain.

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Doubt there will be a new head coach
Amd even if tbe opening was there I'm not sure many really good candidates would take it. They'd be behind the 8 ball to start with. Couldn't sign FA or have many draft picks to play with. It's not a enticing job. You be under pressure and out tbe door by year 3 when you would start to have your team

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Pain.

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The pain has been floating around the last couple of years. I do believe that there will be lots more pain coming though in 2024.