Why Moving on from Carr this offseason is not a financial option.

Rell&Gold · 10-24-2023, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

All we needed was a top 15 QB. His salary was in line with his abilities. He didn't need to carry the team.

Instead Carr is playing nowhere near that level and may now be sinking the ship...

He's getting paid few mil less than Dak and is being out performed by Justin Fields and 23 other QBs. This is the offensive FA equivalent to Jarius Byrd

neugey · 10-22-2023, 07:49 PM

Cousins is far superior to Carr. Despite being streak Cousins can at least execute the offense, progress through options and make the throws. None of the one-read Johnny stuff Carr is doing.

Like I said in another thread, the best chance to getting through to Carr is removing his Captain designation. Give him something to really fret over instead of his teammates and see if it gets through to him.

rezburna · 10-22-2023, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

Cousins is far superior to Carr. Despite being streak Cousins can at least execute the offense, progress through options and make the throws. None of the one-read Johnny stuff Carr is doing.

Like I said in another thread, the best chance to getting through to Carr is removing his Captain designation. Give him something to really fret over instead of his teammates and see if it gets through to him.

Yeah, Kirk is better.

Cruize · 10-23-2023, 08:36 AM

They will save a whole lot of money by Peat, Thomas, Winston and Hill not being on the roster. Plus, I would argue it's more important to get it right. Carr is not the answer. His attitude is a cancer. Another year with him is another wasted year as an organization. Cut bait. Trade future picks if you love a guy. Go with Haener. He's a fighter and will be cheap. It can be done.

K Major · 10-23-2023, 10:22 AM

All I see is a "mid" QB missing slants, wide open (by most NFL standards) receivers across the middle of the field. 2 were TDs.

If you want to create a spark, take the head set away from Pete and give it Curry (2nd half playcalling). Run "hurry up", "quick tempo". Anything different. You may recall,

Dennis admitted that Ronald had input to a struggling offense at half time.

This offense still looks like it's stuck in 2012.

The Colts game (on the road) won't be easy ... even with a backup QB.

K Major · 10-23-2023, 01:27 PM

Good, quick take by Matt on D Carr & the future at QB in New Orleans.

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Rugby Saint II · 10-23-2023, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Good, quick take by Matt on D Carr & the future at QB in New Orleans.

FPI Draft Projections | Will Saints Draft QB OF THE FUTURE in 2024? - YouTube

I liked him initially but he's so negative that I can't watch him anymore. I'm upset enough as it is!

K Major · 10-23-2023, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I liked him initially but he's so negative that I can't watch him anymore. I'm upset enough as it is!

What would you like him to say Rugs? I don't think Matt is "negative" at all. He's calling it as he see's the game. Start playing better & winning, you'll probably get a different take from him.

This is a 3-4 underperforming team. Same goes for the coaches.

Rugby Saint II · 10-24-2023, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

What would you like him to say Rugs? I don't think Matt is "negative" at all. He's calling it as he see's the game. Start playing better & winning, you'll probably get a different take from him.

This is a 3-4 underperforming team. Same goes for the coaches.

I want him to offer some some advice on how to fix things, He reminds me of mapcow. He just isn't a happy camper even when things are going well. Like I said, I used to like him.

Ross Jackson is a bit of a sunshine pumper though, but he has ideas on how to fix things and will discuss them. Not just go off on a rant. He also attends games and practices.

Moscona does neither one, and gets his opinions from other people rather than digging in for details That's it! He's shallow and acts like he's an insider. We've got enough of that on the bng already, which is enough for me.

WW_Who_Dat · 10-24-2023, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I want him to offer some some advice on how to fix things, He reminds me of mapcow. He just isn't a happy camper even when things are going well. Like I said, I used to like him.

Ross Jackson is a bit of a sunshine pumper though, but he has ideas on how to fix things and will discuss them. Not just go off on a rant. He also attends games and practices.

Moscona does neither one, and gets his opinions from other people rather than digging in for details That's it! He's shallow and acts like he's an insider. We've got enough of that on the bng already, which is enough for me.

Rugs I agree I’m certainly not happy with the product at this point but this not DC fault entirely. Oline play, play design, offensive scheme, play calling, route running, JT called that out on more than one occasion and play, communication and at this point in the season is more about our coaching staff for Christ sake.

How can you point a finger at one single thing or individual when you have all the rest of the team structure, function and accountability that is just not working. That’s on coaching and to think at this point Allen and our OC will turn the offensive side around is a long shot at best.

Stop watching AFR was just was into Moscone’s stick.

10-24-2023, 01:20 PM	#1
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Why Moving on from Carr this offseason is not a financial option. Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 All we needed was a top 15 QB. His salary was in line with his abilities. He didn't need to carry the team. Instead Carr is playing nowhere near that level and may now be sinking the ship... He's getting paid few mil less than Dak and is being out performed by Justin Fields and 23 other QBs. This is the offensive FA equivalent to Jarius Byrd K Major likes this.

10-22-2023, 07:49 PM	#2
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,820 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Why Moving on from Carr this offseason is not a financial option. Cousins is far superior to Carr. Despite being streak Cousins can at least execute the offense, progress through options and make the throws. None of the one-read Johnny stuff Carr is doing. Like I said in another thread, the best chance to getting through to Carr is removing his Captain designation. Give him something to really fret over instead of his teammates and see if it gets through to him. MatthewT, Papa Voodoo and MarchingOn like this.

10-22-2023, 08:10 PM	#3
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: Why Moving on from Carr this offseason is not a financial option. Originally Posted by neugey Cousins is far superior to Carr. Despite being streak Cousins can at least execute the offense, progress through options and make the throws. None of the one-read Johnny stuff Carr is doing. Like I said in another thread, the best chance to getting through to Carr is removing his Captain designation. Give him something to really fret over instead of his teammates and see if it gets through to him. Yeah, Kirk is better. Papa Voodoo and SmashMouth like this.

10-23-2023, 08:36 AM	#4
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Why Moving on from Carr this offseason is not a financial option. They will save a whole lot of money by Peat, Thomas, Winston and Hill not being on the roster. Plus, I would argue it's more important to get it right. Carr is not the answer. His attitude is a cancer. Another year with him is another wasted year as an organization. Cut bait. Trade future picks if you love a guy. Go with Haener. He's a fighter and will be cheap. It can be done. SmashMouth likes this.
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10-23-2023, 10:22 AM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,742 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Why Moving on from Carr this offseason is not a financial option. All I see is a "mid" QB missing slants, wide open (by most NFL standards) receivers across the middle of the field. 2 were TDs. If you want to create a spark, take the head set away from Pete and give it Curry (2nd half playcalling). Run "hurry up", "quick tempo". Anything different. You may recall, Dennis admitted that Ronald had input to a struggling offense at half time. This offense still looks like it's stuck in 2012. The Colts game (on the road) won't be easy ... even with a backup QB. saintsfan1976 and SmashMouth like this.

10-23-2023, 01:51 PM	#7
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,119	Re: Why Moving on from Carr this offseason is not a financial option. Originally Posted by K Major Good, quick take by Matt on D Carr & the future at QB in New Orleans. FPI Draft Projections \| Will Saints Draft QB OF THE FUTURE in 2024? - YouTube I liked him initially but he's so negative that I can't watch him anymore. I'm upset enough as it is!

10-23-2023, 02:03 PM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,742 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Why Moving on from Carr this offseason is not a financial option. Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I liked him initially but he's so negative that I can't watch him anymore. I'm upset enough as it is! What would you like him to say Rugs? I don't think Matt is "negative" at all. He's calling it as he see's the game. Start playing better & winning, you'll probably get a different take from him. This is a 3-4 underperforming team. Same goes for the coaches. Rugby Saint II and Sinner like this.

10-24-2023, 03:30 PM	#9
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,119	Re: Why Moving on from Carr this offseason is not a financial option. Originally Posted by K Major What would you like him to say Rugs? I don't think Matt is "negative" at all. He's calling it as he see's the game. Start playing better & winning, you'll probably get a different take from him. This is a 3-4 underperforming team. Same goes for the coaches. I want him to offer some some advice on how to fix things, He reminds me of mapcow. He just isn't a happy camper even when things are going well. Like I said, I used to like him. Ross Jackson is a bit of a sunshine pumper though, but he has ideas on how to fix things and will discuss them. Not just go off on a rant. He also attends games and practices. Moscona does neither one, and gets his opinions from other people rather than digging in for details That's it! He's shallow and acts like he's an insider. We've got enough of that on the bng already, which is enough for me.
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10-24-2023, 05:28 PM	#10
WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,275 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Why Moving on from Carr this offseason is not a financial option. Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I want him to offer some some advice on how to fix things, He reminds me of mapcow. He just isn't a happy camper even when things are going well. Like I said, I used to like him. Ross Jackson is a bit of a sunshine pumper though, but he has ideas on how to fix things and will discuss them. Not just go off on a rant. He also attends games and practices. Moscona does neither one, and gets his opinions from other people rather than digging in for details That's it! He's shallow and acts like he's an insider. We've got enough of that on the bng already, which is enough for me. Rugs I agree I’m certainly not happy with the product at this point but this not DC fault entirely. Oline play, play design, offensive scheme, play calling, route running, JT called that out on more than one occasion and play, communication and at this point in the season is more about our coaching staff for Christ sake. How can you point a finger at one single thing or individual when you have all the rest of the team structure, function and accountability that is just not working. That’s on coaching and to think at this point Allen and our OC will turn the offensive side around is a long shot at best. Stop watching AFR was just was into Moscone’s stick. Rugby Saint II likes this.