NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR “WE NEED A NEW HEAD COACH”

Sinner · 11-18-2023, 09:49 PM

…or that we need a new GM… So through a painful bye week, with us sitting at the top of the NFC SOUTH “heap” at .500 Pct, “just keep doing what you’re doing” will keep all the key players in place, which is an EXTREMELY TALENTED group of “Players” who will simply continue to be mismanaged, poorly coordinated and utilized, and basically uninspired to the point that mediocrity might be the best thing we can hope for… for the rest of this season, possibly into the Playoffs, (PLAYOFFS?!?!? ARE YOU KIDDIN ME?!?!?) and beyond…

I just came by to say that we AMAZING FANS deserve better. NOW!

SaintFanInATLHELL · 11-18-2023, 10:31 PM

Thank you for taking up my suggestion. I just think you are confounding the idea of not wanting to hear that "We need a new head coach." every other post means that we want to keep the current head coach. I'm just resigned to the fact that there's not going to be any changes before the end of the season win, lose, or draw. So, it's just distracting to have your request repeated over and over in every thread in this forum.

You can see this with the fact this bye week, and nothing has been done with Carmichael. I wish dude would resign since Allen has no intention of firing him.

You should bump this thread each and every day. Add details of specific Allen/Carmichael stupidity moments too.

Hopefully in January you will get your wish.

SFIAH

BakoSaint · 11-18-2023, 10:57 PM

We need a new GM and a new Head Coach.

I don't believe we have an extremely talented group of players. If we did, I would not want a new GM. I believe we have an extremely expensive roster with mediocre talent. Yes we have a few exciting players but so does almost every other team. Essentially I believe we have a 9 win roster put together on 17 win max spending with a coach who would normally bring that 9 wins down to 6 wins, but a schedule that gets him back to 9 wins.

We go have some talented players but our weaknesses are Oline, QB, and Pass Rush. Our Dline is not the worst but definitely lacks pass rush and isn't dominant. Our roster is built to be 'good enough' at QB, 'get by ok' in the trenches, and dominate everywhere else on the field away from the trenches and except for the QB. That is not how you win championships in this league even if we did have a great coach, so we need a new GM too because this roster is very costly but is not built to win big, just to be 'good enough' to delay Loomis's forced retirement 1 year at a time.

Sinner · 11-18-2023, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

We need a new GM and a new Head Coach.

I don't believe we have an extremely talented group of players. If we did, I would not want a new GM. I believe we have an extremely expensive roster with mediocre talent. Yes we have a few exciting players but so does almost every other team. Essentially I believe we have a 9 win roster put together on 17 win max spending with a coach who would normally bring that 9 wins down to 6 wins, but a schedule that gets him back to 9 wins.

We go have some talented players but our weaknesses are Oline, QB, and Pass Rush. Our Dline is not the worst but definitely lacks pass rush and isn't dominant. Our roster is built to be 'good enough' at QB, 'get by ok' in the trenches, and dominate everywhere else on the field away from the trenches and except for the QB. That is not how you win championships in this league even if we did have a great coach, so we need a new GM too because this roster is very costly but is not built to win big, just to be 'good enough' to delay Loomis's forced retirement 1 year at a time.

Well articulated. Thank You.

neugey · 11-19-2023, 08:03 AM

You know it's serious when the college and NFL coaches that could possibly be acquired are just as top of mind as the 2024 draft and free agent class. Heck we'd probably be better with Matt Rhule, a little at least.

Sinner · 11-19-2023, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Thank you for taking up my suggestion. I just think you are confounding the idea of not wanting to hear that "We need a new head coach." every other post means that we want to keep the current head coach. I'm just resigned to the fact that there's not going to be any changes before the end of the season win, lose, or draw. So, it's just distracting to have your request repeated over and over in every thread in this forum.

You can see this with the fact this bye week, and nothing has been done with Carmichael. I wish dude would resign since Allen has no intention of firing him.

You should bump this thread each and every day. Add details of specific Allen/Carmichael stupidity moments too.

Hopefully in January you will get your wish.

SFIAH

I’ll be saying it everywhere and every time the mood strikes me, as long as things remain as they are. We need a new Head Coach.

Rugby Saint II · 11-19-2023, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Thank you for taking up my suggestion. I just think you are confounding the idea of not wanting to hear that "We need a new head coach." every other post means that we want to keep the current head coach. I'm just resigned to the fact that there's not going to be any changes before the end of the season win, lose, or draw. So, it's just distracting to have your request repeated over and over in every thread in this forum.

You can see this with the fact this bye week, and nothing has been done with Carmichael. I wish dude would resign since Allen has no intention of firing him.

You should bump this thread each and every day. Add details of specific Allen/Carmichael stupidity moments too.

Hopefully in January you will get your wish.

SFIAH

We need a new coach is a fact but don't feel the need to hear about it on every other post. I want Allen fired but it's hard to read in every other thread. I know it's good to vent but it's already getting old. Why can't the F O see that? Fire Dennis Allen!!

Sinner · 11-19-2023, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

We need a new coach is a fact but don't feel the need to hear about it on every other post. I want Allen fired but it's hard to read in every other thread. I know it's good to vent but it's already getting old. Why can't the F O see that? Fire Dennis Allen!!

I don’t care what anyone says, “We need a new Head Coach” isn’t getting as old as seeing the same excuse for a Head Coach on our sidelines every week.

We need a new Head Coach.

SaintFanQ · 11-20-2023, 01:16 PM

We need our old coach back!

Sean Payton got the Broncos rocking!

From a 1 -5 start to now have a 5 - 5 record and thats against some tough teams too!

He made the Vikings look mediocre unlike our team/coach who didn't really have an answer to their rookie QB!

Hope we can turn things around after having a by week and getting that time to heal some injuries! Guess we will see soon enough!

GEAUX SAINTS!

AsylumGuido · 11-20-2023, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanQ

We need our old coach back!

Sean Payton got the Broncos rocking!

From a 1 -5 start to now have a 5 - 5 record and thats against some tough teams too!

He made the Vikings look mediocre unlike our team/coach who didn't really have an answer to their rookie QB!

Hope we can turn things around after having a by week and getting that time to heal some injuries! Guess we will see soon enough!

GEAUX SAINTS!

Not quite a rookie. Dobbs has been in the league since 2018.

11-18-2023, 09:49 PM	#1
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,952	NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR “WE NEED A NEW HEAD COACH” …or that we need a new GM… So through a painful bye week, with us sitting at the top of the NFC SOUTH “heap” at .500 Pct, “just keep doing what you’re doing” will keep all the key players in place, which is an EXTREMELY TALENTED group of “Players” who will simply continue to be mismanaged, poorly coordinated and utilized, and basically uninspired to the point that mediocrity might be the best thing we can hope for… for the rest of this season, possibly into the Playoffs, (PLAYOFFS?!?!? ARE YOU KIDDIN ME?!?!?) and beyond… I just came by to say that we AMAZING FANS deserve better. NOW! jnormand, neugey, mapcow and 1 others like this.
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11-18-2023, 10:31 PM	#2
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Re: NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR “WE NEED A NEW HEAD COACH” Thank you for taking up my suggestion. I just think you are confounding the idea of not wanting to hear that "We need a new head coach." every other post means that we want to keep the current head coach. I'm just resigned to the fact that there's not going to be any changes before the end of the season win, lose, or draw. So, it's just distracting to have your request repeated over and over in every thread in this forum. You can see this with the fact this bye week, and nothing has been done with Carmichael. I wish dude would resign since Allen has no intention of firing him. You should bump this thread each and every day. Add details of specific Allen/Carmichael stupidity moments too. Hopefully in January you will get your wish. SFIAH neugey and Rugby Saint II like this.
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11-18-2023, 10:57 PM	#3
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,173	Re: NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR “WE NEED A NEW HEAD COACH” We need a new GM and a new Head Coach. I don't believe we have an extremely talented group of players. If we did, I would not want a new GM. I believe we have an extremely expensive roster with mediocre talent. Yes we have a few exciting players but so does almost every other team. Essentially I believe we have a 9 win roster put together on 17 win max spending with a coach who would normally bring that 9 wins down to 6 wins, but a schedule that gets him back to 9 wins. We go have some talented players but our weaknesses are Oline, QB, and Pass Rush. Our Dline is not the worst but definitely lacks pass rush and isn't dominant. Our roster is built to be 'good enough' at QB, 'get by ok' in the trenches, and dominate everywhere else on the field away from the trenches and except for the QB. That is not how you win championships in this league even if we did have a great coach, so we need a new GM too because this roster is very costly but is not built to win big, just to be 'good enough' to delay Loomis's forced retirement 1 year at a time. Sinner likes this.
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11-18-2023, 11:02 PM	#4
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,952	Re: NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR “WE NEED A NEW HEAD COACH” Originally Posted by BakoSaint We need a new GM and a new Head Coach. I don't believe we have an extremely talented group of players. If we did, I would not want a new GM. I believe we have an extremely expensive roster with mediocre talent. Yes we have a few exciting players but so does almost every other team. Essentially I believe we have a 9 win roster put together on 17 win max spending with a coach who would normally bring that 9 wins down to 6 wins, but a schedule that gets him back to 9 wins. We go have some talented players but our weaknesses are Oline, QB, and Pass Rush. Our Dline is not the worst but definitely lacks pass rush and isn't dominant. Our roster is built to be 'good enough' at QB, 'get by ok' in the trenches, and dominate everywhere else on the field away from the trenches and except for the QB. That is not how you win championships in this league even if we did have a great coach, so we need a new GM too because this roster is very costly but is not built to win big, just to be 'good enough' to delay Loomis's forced retirement 1 year at a time. Well articulated. Thank You. BakoSaint likes this.
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11-19-2023, 08:03 AM	#5
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11-19-2023, 09:37 AM	#6
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,952	Re: NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR “WE NEED A NEW HEAD COACH” Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Thank you for taking up my suggestion. I just think you are confounding the idea of not wanting to hear that "We need a new head coach." every other post means that we want to keep the current head coach. I'm just resigned to the fact that there's not going to be any changes before the end of the season win, lose, or draw. So, it's just distracting to have your request repeated over and over in every thread in this forum. You can see this with the fact this bye week, and nothing has been done with Carmichael. I wish dude would resign since Allen has no intention of firing him. You should bump this thread each and every day. Add details of specific Allen/Carmichael stupidity moments too. Hopefully in January you will get your wish. SFIAH I’ll be saying it everywhere and every time the mood strikes me, as long as things remain as they are. We need a new Head Coach. mapcow and K Major like this.
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11-19-2023, 04:39 PM	#7
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR “WE NEED A NEW HEAD COACH” Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Thank you for taking up my suggestion. I just think you are confounding the idea of not wanting to hear that "We need a new head coach." every other post means that we want to keep the current head coach. I'm just resigned to the fact that there's not going to be any changes before the end of the season win, lose, or draw. So, it's just distracting to have your request repeated over and over in every thread in this forum. You can see this with the fact this bye week, and nothing has been done with Carmichael. I wish dude would resign since Allen has no intention of firing him. You should bump this thread each and every day. Add details of specific Allen/Carmichael stupidity moments too. Hopefully in January you will get your wish. SFIAH We need a new coach is a fact but don't feel the need to hear about it on every other post. I want Allen fired but it's hard to read in every other thread. I know it's good to vent but it's already getting old. Why can't the F O see that? Fire Dennis Allen!! SaintFanInATLHELL and Sinner like this.

11-19-2023, 05:01 PM	#8
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,952	Re: NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR “WE NEED A NEW HEAD COACH” Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II We need a new coach is a fact but don't feel the need to hear about it on every other post. I want Allen fired but it's hard to read in every other thread. I know it's good to vent but it's already getting old. Why can't the F O see that? Fire Dennis Allen!! I don’t care what anyone says, “We need a new Head Coach” isn’t getting as old as seeing the same excuse for a Head Coach on our sidelines every week. We need a new Head Coach. jnormand, neugey and K Major like this.
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11-20-2023, 01:16 PM	#9
SaintFanQ Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Leicester, England Posts: 798	Re: NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR “WE NEED A NEW HEAD COACH” We need our old coach back! Sean Payton got the Broncos rocking! From a 1 -5 start to now have a 5 - 5 record and thats against some tough teams too! He made the Vikings look mediocre unlike our team/coach who didn't really have an answer to their rookie QB! Hope we can turn things around after having a by week and getting that time to heal some injuries! Guess we will see soon enough! GEAUX SAINTS! jnormand and Sinner like this.

11-20-2023, 01:20 PM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR “WE NEED A NEW HEAD COACH” Originally Posted by SaintFanQ We need our old coach back! Sean Payton got the Broncos rocking! From a 1 -5 start to now have a 5 - 5 record and thats against some tough teams too! He made the Vikings look mediocre unlike our team/coach who didn't really have an answer to their rookie QB! Hope we can turn things around after having a by week and getting that time to heal some injuries! Guess we will see soon enough! GEAUX SAINTS! Not quite a rookie. Dobbs has been in the league since 2018.