OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO THE FALCONS…

K Major · 11-28-2023, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

Carr needs to be benched and deactivated for his remaining time in a Saints uniform. Loomis needs to take the fall for this mistake and the new GM can start the rebuilding process by hiring a completely new coaching staff.

Honest question here - can DCarr be "fixed"? Or after 9+ seasons, or is he who he is ... mediocre? The reason I asked is because I look at the in game improvement Goff has made with Ben Johnson as his OC.

Look at what OC Bobby Slowik (only 36 years of age) is doing offensively down in Houston with CJ Stroud.

I just hope the Saints front office (decision makers) take a serious look at the Niners|Shanahan coaching tree (McDaniel, LaFleur, Ryans etc) for any new coaches after the substitute teachers are gone.

dizzle88 · 11-26-2023, 05:10 PM

Kamara said in post game presser "instead of saying we need to be better after every loss, we need to actually find a fix and play better"

Sounds like a shot at DA's auto-response to me.

If no one gets fired after this game, I will have lost a lot of respect for the management of this team.

BakoSaint · 11-26-2023, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Kamara said in post game presser "instead of saying we need to be better after every loss, we need to actually find a fix and play better"

Sounds like a shot at DA's auto-response to me.

If no one gets fired after this game, I will have lost a lot of respect for the management of this team.

Well have no doubt, if the answer is on an episode of Matlock, or everybody loves raymond, or in a can of Old Milwaukee, or at the bottom of a bottom of Seagrams VO, or on the earlybird dinner menu at Denny's, our coaches and management will leave no stone unturned to find it.

Sinner · 11-26-2023, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Kamara said in post game presser "instead of saying we need to be better after every loss, we need to actually find a fix and play better"

Sounds like a shot at DA's auto-response to me.

If no one gets fired after this game, I will have lost a lot of respect for the management of this team.

DA has lost the locker room, or he never actually had it to begin with. But he’ll be here next week, and probably next season at least. He’s losing the fans for sure, unless they’re Guidos.

K Major · 11-26-2023, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Kamara said in post game presser "instead of saying we need to be better after every loss, we need to actually find a fix and play better"

Sounds like a shot at DA's auto-response to me.

If no one gets fired after this game, I will have lost a lot of respect for the management of this team.

Yep. DA, Pete & Derek Carr need to be called out.
Allen is destroying this franchise.

Side note - AK is getting close to that “30” year old mark. See what offers you could get in a trade. Let him explore the options on playing for a contender.

It sure as hell won’t happen in New Orleans. No time soon.

neugey · 11-26-2023, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Yep. DA, Pete & Derek Carr need to be called out.
Allen is destroying this franchise.

Side note - AK is getting close to that “30” year old mark. See what offers you could get in a trade. Let him explore the options on playing for a contender.

It sure as hell won’t happen in New Orleans. No time soon.

Knowing Loomis, if we tried to trade Kamara it would cause about $999,999,999,999,999,999.99 in dead money

rezburna · 11-26-2023, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Yep. DA, Pete & Derek Carr need to be called out.
Allen is destroying this franchise.

Side note - AK is getting close to that “30” year old mark. See what offers you could get in a trade. Let him explore the options on playing for a contender.

It sure as hell won’t happen in New Orleans. No time soon.

I’d make sure Kamara and Cam retire as Saints lifers. Everybody else is fair game.

BakoSaint · 11-27-2023, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Kamara said in post game presser "instead of saying we need to be better after every loss, we need to actually find a fix and play better"

Sounds like a shot at DA's auto-response to me.

If no one gets fired after this game, I will have lost a lot of respect for the management of this team.

They need to have a players only meeting in the end zone instead of conference room B. All the talk is platitudes. With our QB, our receivers, our running backs, our pass rush, the expectation needs to be that if a player does not produce in the first half another player needs to be given opportunity in the second half. I don't care if its Cam Jordan or Chris Olave or Derek Carr. There need to be consequences. People say that a dog is man's best friend. As a head coach, Dennis Allen is both. But you can't win and be every players best friend, you need to establish competition and reward the players who are hungry. Dennis Allen is not capable of that.

rezburna · 11-26-2023, 05:18 PM

1. Fire Dennis Allen
2. Hire Ben Johnson | Jim Harbaugh | Eric Bieniemy | or Brian Flores
3. Allow them to rebuild the coaching staff.
4. Cut Carr and take whatever penalty that occurs.
5. Retain Winston as a placeholder.
6. Put all available resources into offensive and defensive line.
7. Draft Jayden Daniels | Michael Penix | or Drake Maye.
8. Pray for a quick turnaround.

Sinner · 11-26-2023, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

1. Fire Dennis Allen
2. Hire Ben Johnson | Jim Harbaugh | Eric Bieniemy | or Brian Flores
3. Allow them to rebuild the coaching staff.
4. Cut Carr and take whatever penalty that occurs.
5. Retain Winston as a placeholder.
6. Put all available resources into offensive and defensive line.
7. Draft Jayden Daniels | Michael Penix | or Drake Maye.
8. Pray for a quick turnaround.

Even if the turnaround isn’t quick, just to see it start turning would make all the difference in the world.

11-28-2023, 12:21 PM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO THE FALCONS… Originally Posted by MatthewT Carr needs to be benched and deactivated for his remaining time in a Saints uniform. Loomis needs to take the fall for this mistake and the new GM can start the rebuilding process by hiring a completely new coaching staff. Honest question here - can DCarr be "fixed"? Or after 9+ seasons, or is he who he is ... mediocre? The reason I asked is because I look at the in game improvement Goff has made with Ben Johnson as his OC. Look at what OC Bobby Slowik (only 36 years of age) is doing offensively down in Houston with CJ Stroud. I just hope the Saints front office (decision makers) take a serious look at the Niners\|Shanahan coaching tree (McDaniel, LaFleur, Ryans etc) for any new coaches after the substitute teachers are gone.

11-26-2023, 05:10 PM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO THE FALCONS… Kamara said in post game presser "instead of saying we need to be better after every loss, we need to actually find a fix and play better" Sounds like a shot at DA's auto-response to me. If no one gets fired after this game, I will have lost a lot of respect for the management of this team. MatthewT, neugey, leilung and 6 others like this.

11-26-2023, 05:14 PM	#3
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,303	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO THE FALCONS… Originally Posted by dizzle88 Kamara said in post game presser "instead of saying we need to be better after every loss, we need to actually find a fix and play better" Sounds like a shot at DA's auto-response to me. If no one gets fired after this game, I will have lost a lot of respect for the management of this team. Well have no doubt, if the answer is on an episode of Matlock, or everybody loves raymond, or in a can of Old Milwaukee, or at the bottom of a bottom of Seagrams VO, or on the earlybird dinner menu at Denny's, our coaches and management will leave no stone unturned to find it.
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11-26-2023, 05:15 PM	#4
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,041	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO THE FALCONS… Originally Posted by dizzle88 Kamara said in post game presser "instead of saying we need to be better after every loss, we need to actually find a fix and play better" Sounds like a shot at DA's auto-response to me. If no one gets fired after this game, I will have lost a lot of respect for the management of this team. DA has lost the locker room, or he never actually had it to begin with. But he’ll be here next week, and probably next season at least. He’s losing the fans for sure, unless they’re Guidos.
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11-26-2023, 05:33 PM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO THE FALCONS… Originally Posted by dizzle88 Kamara said in post game presser "instead of saying we need to be better after every loss, we need to actually find a fix and play better" Sounds like a shot at DA's auto-response to me. If no one gets fired after this game, I will have lost a lot of respect for the management of this team. Yep. DA, Pete & Derek Carr need to be called out. Allen is destroying this franchise. Side note - AK is getting close to that “30” year old mark. See what offers you could get in a trade. Let him explore the options on playing for a contender. It sure as hell won’t happen in New Orleans. No time soon.

11-26-2023, 05:37 PM	#6
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,819 Blog Entries: 13	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO THE FALCONS… Originally Posted by K Major Yep. DA, Pete & Derek Carr need to be called out. Allen is destroying this franchise. Side note - AK is getting close to that “30” year old mark. See what offers you could get in a trade. Let him explore the options on playing for a contender. It sure as hell won’t happen in New Orleans. No time soon. Knowing Loomis, if we tried to trade Kamara it would cause about $999,999,999,999,999,999.99 in dead money K Major likes this.

11-26-2023, 06:19 PM	#7
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO THE FALCONS… Originally Posted by K Major Yep. DA, Pete & Derek Carr need to be called out. Allen is destroying this franchise. Side note - AK is getting close to that “30” year old mark. See what offers you could get in a trade. Let him explore the options on playing for a contender. It sure as hell won’t happen in New Orleans. No time soon. I’d make sure Kamara and Cam retire as Saints lifers. Everybody else is fair game. turbo_dog, SaintFanQ, SmashMouth and 2 others like this.

11-27-2023, 11:01 PM	#8
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,303	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO THE FALCONS… Originally Posted by dizzle88 Kamara said in post game presser "instead of saying we need to be better after every loss, we need to actually find a fix and play better" Sounds like a shot at DA's auto-response to me. If no one gets fired after this game, I will have lost a lot of respect for the management of this team. They need to have a players only meeting in the end zone instead of conference room B. All the talk is platitudes. With our QB, our receivers, our running backs, our pass rush, the expectation needs to be that if a player does not produce in the first half another player needs to be given opportunity in the second half. I don't care if its Cam Jordan or Chris Olave or Derek Carr. There need to be consequences. People say that a dog is man's best friend. As a head coach, Dennis Allen is both. But you can't win and be every players best friend, you need to establish competition and reward the players who are hungry. Dennis Allen is not capable of that.
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11-26-2023, 05:18 PM	#9
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO THE FALCONS… 1. Fire Dennis Allen 2. Hire Ben Johnson \| Jim Harbaugh \| Eric Bieniemy \| or Brian Flores 3. Allow them to rebuild the coaching staff. 4. Cut Carr and take whatever penalty that occurs. 5. Retain Winston as a placeholder. 6. Put all available resources into offensive and defensive line. 7. Draft Jayden Daniels \| Michael Penix \| or Drake Maye. 8. Pray for a quick turnaround. neugey, Sinner and K Major like this.

11-26-2023, 05:22 PM	#10
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,041	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO THE FALCONS… Originally Posted by rezburna 1. Fire Dennis Allen 2. Hire Ben Johnson \| Jim Harbaugh \| Eric Bieniemy \| or Brian Flores 3. Allow them to rebuild the coaching staff. 4. Cut Carr and take whatever penalty that occurs. 5. Retain Winston as a placeholder. 6. Put all available resources into offensive and defensive line. 7. Draft Jayden Daniels \| Michael Penix \| or Drake Maye. 8. Pray for a quick turnaround. Even if the turnaround isn’t quick, just to see it start turning would make all the difference in the world.
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