OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO THE FALCONS…

hitta · 11-27-2023, 06:20 PM

Pete Carmichael is the problem. We've been having red zone problems all year, this isn't new. He doesn't know how to call plays in the red zone. I wouldn't be surprised if most of our touchdowns came from outside of the red zone. I don't know the stats, but Pete Carmichael flat-out sucks. I feel more confident with our team on the other teams 40 yd line than the 20 yd line, there is something wrong with that.

bobdog86 · 11-27-2023, 06:30 PM

Not sure if Jimmy Graham was another "healthy" scratch, but you cant tell me he is a worse option than absolutely, anything we've put on the field in the last several weeks in the red zone. It's just painful seeing the futility week to week.

cmike · 11-27-2023, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by leilung

Carr on the Pick Six:
“He was playing single high and he left his responsibility. You don’t expect him to do that,” Carr said. “You don’t plan on that, for that route. I thought (Rashid) Shaheed made a good decision. But Bates is a good player and he made a great play. Very few times have I told someone good job on a bad play, but that was one where I told him, ‘You beat me. You made a great play.’ It is what it is. It sucks to have that happen."

At NO time did he own his bad decision, rather that the defender made a "great play"? This is this guy's mentality...

As a side note: Have we ever seen him take responsibility for poor decisions? Or is it always him ranting at his receivers on the sidelines? Inquiring minds want to know.

Rashid wasn’t catching that ball, it was thrown 5 yards behind him.

K Major · 11-27-2023, 07:10 PM

Wait for the JT OSullivan’s breakdown of Carr vs Atlanta.

This guy is throwing hospital passes (see Olave) & terrible reads (pick 6).
Too bad the substitute teacher won’t make changes (bench his a**). INSANITY .

At least Jameis can score points in the RED ZONE..

Now we face a pissed off Detroit team on Sunday.

Derek Carr has been a HUGE disappointment in New Orleans.

BakoSaint · 11-27-2023, 07:42 PM

Good video of Ditka after a loss to the Falcons. At least he is honest.

Mike Ditka After Loss to Atlanta - YouTube

neugey · 11-27-2023, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Good video of Ditka after a loss to the Falcons. At least he is honest.

Mike Ditka After Loss to Atlanta - YouTube

I'd rather have this 5-11 Ditka with the accountability and self-loathing than the out of touch facade that Mickey, DA and Carr are giving us right now!

WhoDat!656 · 11-27-2023, 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Watch the start of Derek Carr's press conference with the sound off. Concentrate on his body language. Does he seem kind of twitchy and off to anyone else? The first 4 minutes of the video he is also swaying side to side constantly while his eyes dart all around the room, he blinks rapidly, he keeps the brim of his cap low like his eyes are extra sensitive to the light. Just a thought, but could a substance abuse problem explain his performance the last two years? Vegas can be a place where a guy can pick up bad habits if he is dealing with a lot of frustrations and stress.

https://www.neworleanssaints.com/vid...l-week-12-2023

I was talking to a guy yesterday about the Saints and he said that Carr is terrified of NO because of all the voodoo and the like.

BakoSaint · 11-27-2023, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Have you ever heard of drug testing?

Johnny Manziel played his entire college career and 2 year NFL career without ever failing a drug test.

BakoSaint · 11-28-2023, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Kamara said in post game presser "instead of saying we need to be better after every loss, we need to actually find a fix and play better"

Sounds like a shot at DA's auto-response to me.

If no one gets fired after this game, I will have lost a lot of respect for the management of this team.

They need to have a players only meeting in the end zone instead of conference room B. All the talk is platitudes. With our QB, our receivers, our running backs, our pass rush, the expectation needs to be that if a player does not produce in the first half another player needs to be given opportunity in the second half. I don't care if its Cam Jordan or Chris Olave or Derek Carr. There need to be consequences. People say that a dog is man's best friend. As a head coach, Dennis Allen is both. But you can't win and be every players best friend, you need to establish competition and reward the players who are hungry. Dennis Allen is not capable of that.

SmashMouth · 11-28-2023, 07:52 AM

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11-27-2023, 06:20 PM	#71
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,324	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO THE FALCONS… Pete Carmichael is the problem. We've been having red zone problems all year, this isn't new. He doesn't know how to call plays in the red zone. I wouldn't be surprised if most of our touchdowns came from outside of the red zone. I don't know the stats, but Pete Carmichael flat-out sucks. I feel more confident with our team on the other teams 40 yd line than the 20 yd line, there is something wrong with that.
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11-27-2023, 06:30 PM	#72
bobdog86 Site Donor Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,414	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO THE FALCONS… Not sure if Jimmy Graham was another "healthy" scratch, but you cant tell me he is a worse option than absolutely, anything we've put on the field in the last several weeks in the red zone. It's just painful seeing the futility week to week.

11-27-2023, 06:55 PM	#73
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,430	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO THE FALCONS… Originally Posted by leilung Carr on the Pick Six: “He was playing single high and he left his responsibility. You don’t expect him to do that,” Carr said. “You don’t plan on that, for that route. I thought (Rashid) Shaheed made a good decision. But Bates is a good player and he made a great play. Very few times have I told someone good job on a bad play, but that was one where I told him, ‘You beat me. You made a great play.’ It is what it is. It sucks to have that happen." At NO time did he own his bad decision, rather that the defender made a "great play"? This is this guy's mentality... As a side note: Have we ever seen him take responsibility for poor decisions? Or is it always him ranting at his receivers on the sidelines? Inquiring minds want to know. Rashid wasn’t catching that ball, it was thrown 5 yards behind him. neugey and leilung like this.

11-27-2023, 07:10 PM	#74
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO THE FALCONS… Wait for the JT OSullivan’s breakdown of Carr vs Atlanta. This guy is throwing hospital passes (see Olave) & terrible reads (pick 6). Too bad the substitute teacher won’t make changes (bench his a). INSANITY . At least Jameis can score points in the RED ZONE.. Now we face a pissed off Detroit team on Sunday. Derek Carr has been a HUGE** disappointment in New Orleans. MatthewT, leilung and SmashMouth like this.

11-27-2023, 08:50 PM	#76
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,715 Blog Entries: 13	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO THE FALCONS… Originally Posted by BakoSaint Good video of Ditka after a loss to the Falcons. At least he is honest. Mike Ditka After Loss to Atlanta - YouTube I'd rather have this 5-11 Ditka with the accountability and self-loathing than the out of touch facade that Mickey, DA and Carr are giving us right now! Sinner and K Major like this.

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11-27-2023, 11:53 PM	#77
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,062	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO THE FALCONS… Originally Posted by BakoSaint Watch the start of Derek Carr's press conference with the sound off. Concentrate on his body language. Does he seem kind of twitchy and off to anyone else? The first 4 minutes of the video he is also swaying side to side constantly while his eyes dart all around the room, he blinks rapidly, he keeps the brim of his cap low like his eyes are extra sensitive to the light. Just a thought, but could a substance abuse problem explain his performance the last two years? Vegas can be a place where a guy can pick up bad habits if he is dealing with a lot of frustrations and stress. https://www.neworleanssaints.com/vid...l-week-12-2023 I was talking to a guy yesterday about the Saints and he said that Carr is terrified of NO because of all the voodoo and the like.

11-27-2023, 11:54 PM	#78
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,173	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO THE FALCONS… Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Have you ever heard of drug testing? Johnny Manziel played his entire college career and 2 year NFL career without ever failing a drug test.
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11-28-2023, 12:01 AM	#79
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,173	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO THE FALCONS… Originally Posted by dizzle88 Kamara said in post game presser "instead of saying we need to be better after every loss, we need to actually find a fix and play better" Sounds like a shot at DA's auto-response to me. If no one gets fired after this game, I will have lost a lot of respect for the management of this team. They need to have a players only meeting in the end zone instead of conference room B. All the talk is platitudes. With our QB, our receivers, our running backs, our pass rush, the expectation needs to be that if a player does not produce in the first half another player needs to be given opportunity in the second half. I don't care if its Cam Jordan or Chris Olave or Derek Carr. There need to be consequences. People say that a dog is man's best friend. As a head coach, Dennis Allen is both. But you can't win and be every players best friend, you need to establish competition and reward the players who are hungry. Dennis Allen is not capable of that.
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11-28-2023, 07:52 AM	#80
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