Observations from the Saints' Surprise Win vs Panthers

AsylumGuido · 12-11-2023, 04:09 PM

Sounds like Carmichael's decision of not activating Graham earlier is becoming an issue.

cmike · 12-11-2023, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

What?! Not sure what game you were watching. Bryce Young couldn't come close to his receivers. He finished the game with a 48.0 passer rating. Carr had a very respectable 88.5 rating. They each had one turnover. Young was sacked four times. Carr once. Young was 13 for 36 (36.1%) passing. Carr was 18 for 26 (69.2%). Carr had two passing TD's. Young had zero. Not only was Young outplayed by Carr, but he was outplayed by a huge margin. Not even close. Several of the few Panthers' fans in attendance were booing Young in the 4th quarter.

Bryce didn’t offer a performance worthy of booing. Young being allowed to escape the pocket continued keep multiple drives alive.
Carr has always put up MVP type numbers, while playing like garbage.
There was a stretch in the game where benching Carr wasn’t totally out of the question.

AsylumGuido · 12-12-2023, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by cmike

Bryce didn’t offer a performance worthy of booing. Young being allowed to escape the pocket continued keep multiple drives alive.
Carr has always put up MVP type numbers, while playing like garbage.
There was a stretch in the game where benching Carr wasn’t totally out of the question.

In favor of whom? Winston came in last week and lost the game for us with his inability to complete a pass to open receivers.

K Major · 12-11-2023, 10:51 AM

Quick peek at the final box score, Panthers had better stats.

It's a good thing we were playing a 1-11 team.

neugey · 12-11-2023, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Quick peek at the final box score, Panthers had better stats.

It's a good thing we were playing a 1-11 team.

I didn't watch the game, but it sure seemed like a goofy one.

In a 28-6 win, the Panthers had about 100 more yards of offense than we did, and by and large it wasn't a situation where they were playing from way behind. If you take out AT Perry's long catch, they'd have close to double our yardage. And yes I know yards can be misleading, but it still can be indicative of problems.

SmashMouth · 12-11-2023, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Quick peek at the final box score, Panthers had better stats.

It's a good thing we were playing a 1-11 team.

Originally Posted by neugey

I didn't watch the game, but it sure seemed like a goofy one.

In a 28-6 win, the Panthers had about 100 more yards of offense than we did, and by and large it wasn't a situation where they were playing from way behind. If you take out AT Perry's long catch, they'd have close to double our yardage. And yes I know yards can be misleading, but it still can be indicative of problems.

Turnovers have a way to skew stats like that. We need more of those types of turnovers.

K Major · 12-11-2023, 11:00 AM

Looking ahead to 2024 ...

Go get you a kicker. Blake Grupe (long term) isn't the answer.

Missing chip shot FGs, naw you get cut. Unacceptable.

Rugby Saint II · 12-11-2023, 02:49 PM

Oh No!! We suck again!!!

saintsfan1976 · 12-12-2023, 06:55 AM

We've been waiting three years to see Baun as a pass rusher.

K Major · 12-12-2023, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

We've been waiting three years to see Baun as a pass rusher.

Amazing it only took these substitute teachers that long to figure it out. Kinda feel bad for Zach.

I guess the next light bulb will come on that if you use a 6'7 Jimmy G in the redzone, he might be able to out jump everyone and score TDs

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Just wow.

12-11-2023, 04:09 PM	#1
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12-11-2023, 07:44 PM	#2
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,447	Re: Observations from the Saints' Surprise Win vs Panthers Originally Posted by AsylumGuido What?! Not sure what game you were watching. Bryce Young couldn't come close to his receivers. He finished the game with a 48.0 passer rating. Carr had a very respectable 88.5 rating. They each had one turnover. Young was sacked four times. Carr once. Young was 13 for 36 (36.1%) passing. Carr was 18 for 26 (69.2%). Carr had two passing TD's. Young had zero. Not only was Young outplayed by Carr, but he was outplayed by a huge margin. Not even close. Several of the few Panthers' fans in attendance were booing Young in the 4th quarter. Bryce didn’t offer a performance worthy of booing. Young being allowed to escape the pocket continued keep multiple drives alive. Carr has always put up MVP type numbers, while playing like garbage. There was a stretch in the game where benching Carr wasn’t totally out of the question.

12-12-2023, 07:53 AM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,498	Re: Observations from the Saints' Surprise Win vs Panthers Originally Posted by cmike Bryce didn’t offer a performance worthy of booing. Young being allowed to escape the pocket continued keep multiple drives alive. Carr has always put up MVP type numbers, while playing like garbage. There was a stretch in the game where benching Carr wasn’t totally out of the question. In favor of whom? Winston came in last week and lost the game for us with his inability to complete a pass to open receivers.

12-11-2023, 10:51 AM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,747 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' Surprise Win vs Panthers Quick peek at the final box score, Panthers had better stats. It's a good thing we were playing a 1-11 team. neugey and SmashMouth like this.

12-11-2023, 11:23 AM	#5
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,824 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Observations from the Saints' Surprise Win vs Panthers Originally Posted by K Major Quick peek at the final box score, Panthers had better stats. It's a good thing we were playing a 1-11 team. I didn't watch the game, but it sure seemed like a goofy one. In a 28-6 win, the Panthers had about 100 more yards of offense than we did, and by and large it wasn't a situation where they were playing from way behind. If you take out AT Perry's long catch, they'd have close to double our yardage. And yes I know yards can be misleading, but it still can be indicative of problems.

12-11-2023, 11:50 AM	#6
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,482 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Observations from the Saints' Surprise Win vs Panthers Originally Posted by K Major Quick peek at the final box score, Panthers had better stats. It's a good thing we were playing a 1-11 team. Originally Posted by neugey I didn't watch the game, but it sure seemed like a goofy one. In a 28-6 win, the Panthers had about 100 more yards of offense than we did, and by and large it wasn't a situation where they were playing from way behind. If you take out AT Perry's long catch, they'd have close to double our yardage. And yes I know yards can be misleading, but it still can be indicative of problems. Turnovers have a way to skew stats like that. We need more of those types of turnovers. K Major and Thirty3 like this.

12-11-2023, 11:00 AM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,747 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' Surprise Win vs Panthers Looking ahead to 2024 ... Go get you a kicker. Blake Grupe (long term) isn't the answer. Missing chip shot FGs, naw you get cut. Unacceptable. SmashMouth likes this.

12-11-2023, 02:49 PM	#8
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12-12-2023, 06:55 AM	#9
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12-12-2023, 11:20 AM	#10
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,747 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints' Surprise Win vs Panthers Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 We've been waiting three years to see Baun as a pass rusher. Amazing it only took these substitute teachers that long to figure it out. Kinda feel bad for Zach. I guess the next light bulb will come on that if you use a 6'7 Jimmy G in the redzone, he might be able to out jump everyone and score TDs . Just wow. Rugby Saint II, dizzle88 and Sinner like this.