Carr-ible

rezburna · 12-19-2023, 11:41 AM

Gotta grab Daniels.

K Major · 12-19-2023, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Gotta grab Daniels.

+1. But as long as Allen is the HC, I don't think the Saints brass will even target a QB (rd1) ... unfortuntunately.

In any case, I just don't see Daniels getting past the Pats, Giants or Falcons

. All QB "needy" teams.

But hey, I didn't think we had any shot at getting Olave.

AsylumGuido · 12-19-2023, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

+1. But as long as Allen is the HC, I don't think the Saints brass will even target a QB (rd1) ... unfortuntunately.

In any case, I just don't see Daniels getting past the Pats, Giants or Falcons . All QB "needy" teams.

But hey, I didn't think we had any shot at getting Olave.

Dennis Allen is not the decision maker when it comes to the draft.

Sinner · 12-19-2023, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Dennis Allen is not the decision maker when it comes to the draft.

Yes. Dennis Allen has nothing to do with anything substantial regarding this team. We get it. Leave him alone.

K Major · 12-19-2023, 12:41 PM

Right again Sinner.

Sinner · 12-19-2023, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Right again Sinner.

It’s like, maybe if I hit myself in the head with a fleur de lis shaped hammer repeatedly while wearing rose colored glasses and lots of new merch, it all starts making sense.

NOLA54 · 12-19-2023, 01:02 PM

Carr lacks consistency. He looks scared in the pocket. He has bad habits that can not be corrected. Allen enables him. If we don’t start looking for a coach we'll be left out in the cold and stuck with Allen for 2024.

Sinner · 12-19-2023, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by NOLA54

Carr lacks consistency. He looks scared in the pocket. He has bad habits that can not be corrected. Allen enables him. If we don’t start looking for a coach we'll be left out in the cold and stuck with Allen for 2024.

Some of us saw this coming. Others (including our front office) just shrugged it off. Some continue to cheer it on.

K Major · 12-19-2023, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by NOLA54

Carr lacks consistency. He looks scared in the pocket. He has bad habits that can not be corrected. Allen enables him. If we don’t start looking for a coach we'll be left out in the cold and stuck with Allen for 2024.

More facts.

But here is one that is gonna sting for some ...

"Their (Saints) losses have come against teams who are a combined 52-46 (.531).

Dennis Allen's squad is 1-5 against teams that are at or over .500 right now". Source - John Sigler@john_siglerr

But yeah, let's give out game balls galore beating the likes of Carolina and the NY Giants

.

2024 is going to be ugly with the substitute trying to lead a professional football team.

WW_Who_Dat · 12-19-2023, 04:03 PM

Allen or Carmichael do not deserve office place at 5800 Airline after the season regardless of the outcome. Realistically on Allen that’s a 50/50 at best, Carmichael who knows.

I’ve said it before and I believe it was proved over and over this coaching staff has no real feel for the game. Best player on the offense did not see the field in the 1st series last week. Jimmy G all of a sudden appears in week 14 and surprise surprise he is money … 13 weeks healthy scratch. Time after time when something is working nope lets fool them take our best players off the field.

We have no idea what our offensive players are capable of because of the game planning, scheme, playing calls and game flow adjustments. Saints/Carmichael offensive calls charted as last in the league by large margin.

Make multiple office vacancies at 5800 Airline, shed some players, trade where possible, keep skill position to see what we have with new coaching and get younger and faster.

Unfortunately I do not see much of that happening if we win 2 of last 3. Allen will be given another chance and history has shown what that looks like.

I also think there is good chance Smith and Boles will be fired at seasons end and hope the Saints make it 4 for 4 in the NFC South this year.

12-19-2023, 11:41 AM	#11
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: Carr-ible Gotta grab Daniels. MatthewT, Sinner and K Major like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Carr-ible Originally Posted by rezburna Gotta grab Daniels. +1. But as long as Allen is the HC, I don't think the Saints brass will even target a QB (rd1) ... unfortuntunately. In any case, I just don't see Daniels getting past the Pats, Giants or Falcons . All QB "needy" teams. But hey, I didn't think we had any shot at getting Olave. Sinner likes this.

12-19-2023, 12:13 PM	#13
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Carr-ible Originally Posted by K Major +1. But as long as Allen is the HC, I don't think the Saints brass will even target a QB (rd1) ... unfortuntunately. In any case, I just don't see Daniels getting past the Pats, Giants or Falcons . All QB "needy" teams. But hey, I didn't think we had any shot at getting Olave. Dennis Allen is not the decision maker when it comes to the draft.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,952	Re: Carr-ible Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Dennis Allen is not the decision maker when it comes to the draft. Yes. Dennis Allen has nothing to do with anything substantial regarding this team. We get it. Leave him alone. K Major likes this.
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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,952	Re: Carr-ible Originally Posted by K Major Right again Sinner. It’s like, maybe if I hit myself in the head with a fleur de lis shaped hammer repeatedly while wearing rose colored glasses and lots of new merch, it all starts making sense. jnormand and K Major like this.
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12-19-2023, 01:02 PM	#17
NOLA54 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,708 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Carr-ible Carr lacks consistency. He looks scared in the pocket. He has bad habits that can not be corrected. Allen enables him. If we don’t start looking for a coach we'll be left out in the cold and stuck with Allen for 2024. Sinner and K Major like this.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,952	Re: Carr-ible Originally Posted by NOLA54 Carr lacks consistency. He looks scared in the pocket. He has bad habits that can not be corrected. Allen enables him. If we don’t start looking for a coach we'll be left out in the cold and stuck with Allen for 2024. Some of us saw this coming. Others (including our front office) just shrugged it off. Some continue to cheer it on. K Major likes this.
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12-19-2023, 01:46 PM	#19
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Carr-ible Originally Posted by NOLA54 Carr lacks consistency. He looks scared in the pocket. He has bad habits that can not be corrected. Allen enables him. If we don’t start looking for a coach we'll be left out in the cold and stuck with Allen for 2024. More facts. But here is one that is gonna sting for some ... "Their (Saints) losses have come against teams who are a combined 52-46 (.531). Dennis Allen's squad is 1-5 against teams that are at or over .500 right now". Source - John Sigler@john_siglerr But yeah, let's give out game balls galore beating the likes of Carolina and the NY Giants . 2024 is going to be ugly with the substitute trying to lead a professional football team. jnormand and Sinner like this.

12-19-2023, 04:03 PM	#20
WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,270 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Carr-ible Allen or Carmichael do not deserve office place at 5800 Airline after the season regardless of the outcome. Realistically on Allen that’s a 50/50 at best, Carmichael who knows. I’ve said it before and I believe it was proved over and over this coaching staff has no real feel for the game. Best player on the offense did not see the field in the 1st series last week. Jimmy G all of a sudden appears in week 14 and surprise surprise he is money … 13 weeks healthy scratch. Time after time when something is working nope lets fool them take our best players off the field. We have no idea what our offensive players are capable of because of the game planning, scheme, playing calls and game flow adjustments. Saints/Carmichael offensive calls charted as last in the league by large margin. Make multiple office vacancies at 5800 Airline, shed some players, trade where possible, keep skill position to see what we have with new coaching and get younger and faster. Unfortunately I do not see much of that happening if we win 2 of last 3. Allen will be given another chance and history has shown what that looks like. I also think there is good chance Smith and Boles will be fired at seasons end and hope the Saints make it 4 for 4 in the NFC South this year. Sinner and K Major like this.