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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And there he is again. Back to the name calling. Go find a life, dude. Does it make you feel special calling other people's mothers cheap whores? That's the second time you gone there. You need ...

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Old 02-24-2024, 07:49 PM   #61
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And there he is again. Back to the name calling. Go find a life, dude. Does it make you feel special calling other people's mothers cheap whores? That's the second time you gone there. You need serious help. Very serious help.

You called me a wacko, ridiculous, and made a joke about my balls. I don't deal in half measures so if you try make vague half way personal insults with me I am a plain honest person who will return the favor honestly with clear unmistakable straightforward insults. I have told you this before, but you just can't get it through your head. I don't start the name calling, you start it with all your piddley crap like wacko, ridiculous, crazy. But then your mom comes up and all of a sudden you are some kind of innocent girl scout.

The salary cap reaching $255 million is no guarantee it will reach $300 or $400 million soon. The average increase historically is 6.9%. This was a good year and it increased 13.6%. But from 2009-2013 it did not increase at all, and that was not the first recession in history and likely won't be the last. The NFL is profiting now from companies seeking to be loss leaders to corner market share in streaming but once these companies are entrenched or merge and reduce competition, they may reduce their bids for television rights. The NFL is very concerned about services merging and trying legal efforts to stop different rights holders from combining their services onto a single subscription.

Your comparison of $55 million cost just spread out differently due to different accounting methods assumes every player finishes every contract. One of the biggest problems with the Mickey Loomis method is that some players struggle early in their contracts and do not merit the salaries scheduled later in their contracts but the Saints can't cut them and avoid paying the full amount because Mickey's 'accounting method' means it costs too much dead cap to ever move on early. You have to consider the real example where under a different accounting method we would cut a bad player after 3 years and pay only $33 million while under the Mickey Loomis method instead of $55 million we would pay $66 million because we would have to extend the player for a sixth year to prepare for the dead cap when they leave, even though they have not been good since the 2nd year and another team would have cut them after the 3rd.

The guy who has been predicting Michael Thomas for Comeback Player of the The Year on the 20-0 Saints since 2020 needs to realize he doesn't know everything and he can't win Mickey Loomis's love no matter how much he defends him, because he is not a bottle a booze.
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Old 02-25-2024, 09:34 AM   #62
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You called me a wacko, ridiculous, and made a joke about my balls. I don't deal in half measures so if you try make vague half way personal insults with me I am a plain honest person who will return the favor honestly with clear unmistakable straightforward insults. I have told you this before, but you just can't get it through your head. I don't start the name calling, you start it with all your piddley crap like wacko, ridiculous, crazy. But then your mom comes up and all of a sudden you are some kind of innocent girl scout.

The salary cap reaching $255 million is no guarantee it will reach $300 or $400 million soon. The average increase historically is 6.9%. This was a good year and it increased 13.6%. But from 2009-2013 it did not increase at all, and that was not the first recession in history and likely won't be the last. The NFL is profiting now from companies seeking to be loss leaders to corner market share in streaming but once these companies are entrenched or merge and reduce competition, they may reduce their bids for television rights. The NFL is very concerned about services merging and trying legal efforts to stop different rights holders from combining their services onto a single subscription.

Your comparison of $55 million cost just spread out differently due to different accounting methods assumes every player finishes every contract. One of the biggest problems with the Mickey Loomis method is that some players struggle early in their contracts and do not merit the salaries scheduled later in their contracts but the Saints can't cut them and avoid paying the full amount because Mickey's 'accounting method' means it costs too much dead cap to ever move on early. You have to consider the real example where under a different accounting method we would cut a bad player after 3 years and pay only $33 million while under the Mickey Loomis method instead of $55 million we would pay $66 million because we would have to extend the player for a sixth year to prepare for the dead cap when they leave, even though they have not been good since the 2nd year and another team would have cut them after the 3rd.

The guy who has been predicting Michael Thomas for Comeback Player of the The Year on the 20-0 Saints since 2020 needs to realize he doesn't know everything and he can't win Mickey Loomis's love no matter how much he defends him, because he is not a bottle a booze.
Hey, Bako. The ball reference was not about your precious gonads. It was referring to your goofy assed claim that rigging could happen in golf with the use of gyroscopes in the balls.

LOL!!

I'm not wasting my time reading past your first sentence because at a glance I can see it's nothing more than your personal bias that has grown into a full-fledged obsession. I now see why they banned you from over at that "other site". You ARE a whacko.
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Old 02-25-2024, 09:45 AM   #63
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Re: 2024 Saints Salary Cap Watch

And back to the original purpose of this thread.

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Old 02-25-2024, 11:52 AM   #64
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Hey, Bako. The ball reference was not about your precious gonads. It was referring to your goofy assed claim that rigging could happen in golf with the use of gyroscopes in the balls.

LOL!!

I'm not wasting my time reading past your first sentence because at a glance I can see it's nothing more than your personal bias that has grown into a full-fledged obsession. I now see why they banned you from over at that "other site". You ARE a whacko.
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Old 02-25-2024, 01:40 PM   #65
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This here. Miami is having to cut their #1 CB because of how they handle their cap. Restructuring isn't an option, it became a necessity. New Orleans, however, can easily get under the cap without cutting or trading a single player.

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Old 02-25-2024, 03:09 PM   #66
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This here. Miami is having to cut their #1 CB because of how they handle their cap. Restructuring isn't an option, it became a necessity. New Orleans, however, can easily get under the cap without cutting or trading a single player.

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Man it must suck to be a Dolphins fan the past few years. Better record than the Saints for two straight years. Four straight winning seasons in a much tougher division than the Saints. Electric big plays. Scoring 70 against our head coaches daddy. Aquiring Tyreek Hill and Jalen Ramsey and Terron Armstead instead of Derek Carr and a case of Jim Beam. But your right none of that counts because maybe they can’t afford to keep one aging corner because they spent the money aquiring 3 other stars. The Saints are kings under Loomis because they don’t ‘have to’ do anything but kick the can, and man can they kick it.
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Man it must suck to be a Dolphins fan the past few years. Better record than the Saints for two straight years. Four straight winning seasons in a much tougher division than the Saints. Electric big plays. Scoring 70 against our head coaches daddy. Aquiring Tyreek Hill and Jalen Ramsey and Terron Armstead instead of Derek Carr and a case of Jim Beam. But your right none of that counts because maybe they can’t afford to keep one aging corner because they spent the money aquiring 3 other stars. The Saints are kings under Loomis because they don’t ‘have to’ do anything but kick the can, and man can they kick it.
Ramsey is right behind Howard in age, tbh. They basically acquired one aging CB to release another aging CB. Tyreek Hill was a great acquisition for sure, but if it don’t result in a ring it’s kind of useless. Then we got Armstead who is 32 and often injured. Miami is basically the Saints of the 2010’s. Scoring like crazy. Playing exciting football. No ring.
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Old 02-25-2024, 08:11 PM   #68
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Man it must suck to be a Dolphins fan the past few years. Better record than the Saints for two straight years. Four straight winning seasons in a much tougher division than the Saints. Electric big plays. Scoring 70 against our head coaches daddy. Aquiring Tyreek Hill and Jalen Ramsey and Terron Armstead instead of Derek Carr and a case of Jim Beam. But your right none of that counts because maybe they can’t afford to keep one aging corner because they spent the money aquiring 3 other stars. The Saints are kings under Loomis because they don’t ‘have to’ do anything but kick the can, and man can they kick it.
BAKO, you are in a discussion with a guy who is quoted as saying:
“Winning championships is a goal, but not the main goal”, and who drives ten hours round trip to sit in a refurbished dome and feel a fresh and starchy Carr Jersey rubbing up against his nipples.
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Old 02-27-2024, 04:35 PM   #69
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The Cesar Ruiz restructure is supposedly close to being official. That should get us to under $25 million from the required cap number.
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Old 02-28-2024, 10:34 AM   #70
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There it is.

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