Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 989681)

The top 4 teams in current Super Bowl odds, the 49ers, Ravens, Eagles, and Chiefs, who are all under the 2024 salary cap, would be fascinated to know that the Saints are the future of the NFL according to some guy named Guido. 8 teams are currently over the 2024 salary cap by a total of ~$260 million. We are $87 million over, which is 1/3 of the dollars over the 2024 salary cap for the entire league. Meanwhile the other 24 teams in the league are a combined $933 million under the 2024 salary cap including the top 4 teams in the league.

I don't even know that 8 teams being over the next years salary cap, only 4 by over $25 million / 10%, in late December, is even an increasing trend. Do you know that there were not 4 teams 10% over the 2004 salary cap on 12/30/2003? Maybe Mickey Loomis's 'innovation' only appeared to be an increasing trend during covid when the cap dropped and other normally responsible teams needed to borrow short term, and now they are all going back to normal where the Saints once again stand out with 1/3rd of the cap deficit for the entire 32 team league. Or maybe there is a slight uptick in cap borrowing among desperate and loser teams just like the tide pod challenge took off. But just because at one time the tide pod challenge was an increasing trend does not mean its the future of nutritional excellence. To determine the future you can't just look at trends you have to look at outcomes, and in either case the outcome is fans needing to have their stomachs pumped.

If you look at the other teams that are over the cap there is a pattern. None are over the 2024 cap by half what the Saints are, the Bills are like 49.9% at the 2nd biggest spender. Many of the other teams over the cap are winners but not 1st tier winners. They are the teams that woulda coulda shoulda and are getting desperate. Just behind the Saints at $87 million over you have the Bills who keep coming in as Miss Congeniality behind the Chiefs or Bengals and have gotten to a desperate stage to make it happen now or never with a running QB who is not getting younger. Then you have the Dolphins who have spent big to bring on Tyreek Hill, Jaylen Ramsey, Armstead etc to win now knowing Tua is one concussion from retirement and on his rookie contract and have been hyping themselves but unable to win. Then you have the Chargers who are incredible underachievers. The Broncos who are under extreme pressure with the bust trade for Wilson. The Cowboys who already fold in December and the playoffs. The Browns who buster on Watson. The Steelers who are struggling to stay relevant after Big Ben. Essentially all the teams over the 2024 cap are desperate underachievers with their coaches and/or GMs job security a subject of open discussions, teams that are not confident in what they have, and feel obligated to put it all on the table to win now and damn the consequences while everyone knows the true favorites are teams under the cap and confident like the Chiefs, 49ers, and Eagles. And even of those desperate teams no other team is half as desperate as us, most are less than 1/4 as desperate, and we are among the furthest from winning, with among the worst quarterbacks.

I would say the trend in the NFL is you try to build a stable sustainable contender by staying at or under future salary caps. If your team continually comes up just short and fans are losing patience you go all in for a year or two and try to get lucky. But if that doesn't work you rebuild, because if you are going all in every year, going all in does not give you any edge, its just taking on new debts to pay off old debts with the same mediocrity, and leaves you in a position where if you do get to second tier, you have no cushion to go more all-in to get to first tier.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 989691)

And we're suppose to take everything, or anything, said by some guy named BakoSaint as gospel? Nope. ;)

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 989691)

And we're suppose to take everything, or anything, said by some guy named BakoSaint as gospel? Nope. ;)

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 989691)

And we're suppose to take everything, or anything, said by some guy named BakoSaint as gospel? Nope. ;)

Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 989696)

No take what every Super Bowl winner since the 2017 season has done as gospel:

2x Chiefs: Stay under the cap and build responsibly.

Rams: Currently rebuilding after short spending spree when within reach, yet still better than the Saints.

Tampa: Currently rebuilding after short spending spree when within reach, yet still better than the Saints.

Patriots 2x: Stay under cap and build responsibly until your franchise QB is getting too old, then spend for one last run, then rebuild. They missed on the QB with the rebuild, but they can draft Jayden Daniels with a clean cap now and attract a good coach, so that looks a lot better than us.

Eagles: Won it all, rebuilt, got back to the big game and almost won, still under the 2024 cap. Maxxed out 2023 cap with restructures but didn't max out 2024 too.

None of these teams are over the 2024 cap. All recognize that you can either spend sustainably or cyclically but you can't go for broke every year.

Mickey Loomis believe two things have no limit: the salary cap and his liver. Hopefully the latter proves him wrong before the prior costs New Orleans its team.

Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 989696)

No take what every Super Bowl winner since the 2017 season has done as gospel:

2x Chiefs: Stay under the cap and build responsibly.

Rams: Currently rebuilding after short spending spree when within reach.

Tampa: Currently rebuilding after short spending spree when within reach.

Patriots 2x: Stay under cap and build responsibly until your franchise QB is getting too old, then spend for one last run, then rebuild. They missed on the QB with the rebuild, but they can draft Jayden Daniels with a clean cap now and attract a good coach, so that looks a lot better than us.

Eagles: Won it all, rebuilt, got back to the big game and almost won, still under the 2024 cap.

None of these teams are over the 2024 cap. All recognize that you can either spend sustainably or cyclically but you can't go for broke every year.

Mickey Loomis believe two things have no limit: the salary cap and his liver. Hopefully the latter proves him wrong before the prior costs New Orleans its team.

Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 989696)

And yes this is gospel Guido. If you disagree with me you will burn in hell for an eternity.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 989700)

I repeat, we should take everything, or anything, said by some guy named BakoSaint as gospel? :D

I say this, of course, knowing full well that you'll keep repeating the same things over and over again, ad nauseum, twenty times per day. Not sure who you're trying to convince. Those that buy in would have already bought in and those who haven't, won't. As an aside, I suppose the sinner guy is still repeating his same rhetoric so this applies there, as well.

But, keep at it as long as it blows your skirt up.

(the aforementioned is not a slight of any sort, just an old saying) ;)

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