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AsylumGuido 12-27-2023 06:14 PM
Re: Week 17 - Bucs vs Saints
 
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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 989502)
That's why I started with the qualifier that no one here knows what's going on behind the scenes. We can judge by effort on and off the field and behaviors (like not returning phone calls to the team).
It's just a forum, man. We all have opninons.
Yes we do. And it is my opinion that what random fans and internet click-baiters think about what players are thinking carries far less weight than what other players and coaches say about what they think. But, I guess they could all be lying.

:D

Sinner 12-27-2023 06:25 PM
Re: Week 17 - Bucs vs Saints
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 989505)
Yes we do. And it is my opinion that what random fans and internet click-baiters think about what players are thinking carries far less weight than what other players and coaches say about what they think. But, I guess they could all be lying.

:D
You know what used to be awesome? Remember when we watched the players on our team PLAY FOOTBALL AND WIN, instead of talking about what players and coaches say about what they’re thinking? That was awesome…

AsylumGuido 12-27-2023 06:31 PM
Re: Week 17 - Bucs vs Saints
 
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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 989492)
I have no idea. Of course, no one here does. As much time as you spend on researching all things New Orleans Saints I'm sure you've heard that a couple of ex-Buckeyes and a certain RB are all but checked out. No certainties here. just rumblings.
Okay. I'll amend my statement of saying every single player would be trying their best. There are probably isolated players across the entire league that are too immature or stupid to listen to their agents and end up devaluing their marketability to teams across the league.

Sinner 12-27-2023 06:36 PM
Re: Week 17 - Bucs vs Saints
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 989507)
Okay. I'll amend my statement of saying every single player would be trying their best. There are probably isolated players across the entire league that are too immature or stupid to listen to their agents and end up devaluing their marketability to teams across the league.
When Loomis and Gayle hand out participation trophies after the falCANS beat us in our home closer, they better reserve the biggest trophy for Quido, and maybe some discounted merch for next season? Maybe a Carr Jersey with the number embroidered sideways?

K Major 12-27-2023 06:44 PM
Re: Week 17 - Bucs vs Saints
 
All I know is that they're teeing it up at 12 noon local time on Sunday & the team we're facing (Bucs) have won 4 straight.

And flat out embarassed the Jaguars ... a team we couldn't defeat at home.

Sinner 12-27-2023 06:45 PM
Re: Week 17 - Bucs vs Saints
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 989512)
All I know is that they're teeing it up at 12 noon local time on Sunday & the team we're facing (Bucs) have won 4 straight.

And flat out embarassed the Jaguars ... a team we couldn't defeat at home.
FACTS…

saintsfan1976 12-28-2023 05:32 AM
Re: Week 17 - Bucs vs Saints
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 989500)
What you hear from your rumblings don't mean ****. ;)

I can only off what I have heard and read from literally hundreds of players and coaches over the years.
Once again...


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And the issue many have with you Guido is the incessant rainbow-chasing and patronizing condescension.

Members need leeway to b!tch and moan here. Things aren't always alright.

You'd do well to occasionally say "You know what Sinner, you're right - these guys suck and I hope they figure it out soon too...."

But you don't. Instead you tell fans why their opinions and feelings are wrong and dismiss their rebuttals.

You've placed yourself on an island of infallibility and you wonder why there's sharks...

K Major 12-28-2023 10:09 AM
Re: Week 17 - Bucs vs Saints
 
Pretty much sums up the Saints 2023 season.

K Major 12-28-2023 10:17 AM
Re: Week 17 - Bucs vs Saints
 
I can't find BakoSaints post from a few months back but he was damn near spot on (again).

Basically said the Bucs are likely winning this division while doing a "soft" rebuild & signed Mayfield as the bridge/stop gap. Yet they are still looking good as of late.

From a Saints fan perspective, it seems more embarassing that Loomis went "all in" on winning the division, yet looking really, really bad.

With this so called "easy" schedule, there was no excuse NOT to win 10+ games. Classic example of bad coaching.

AsylumGuido 12-28-2023 10:48 AM
Re: Week 17 - Bucs vs Saints
 
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 989520)
Once again...
If you look back I never said that iceshack was himself wrong. Nor did I say his opinion was wrong. He referenced "rumblings" which can be deduced as bloggers and/or other fans or sources other than himself. I only pointed out that actual players and coaches have made it a point that fans and many media types (including bloggers) commonly and wrongly insinuate that players quit and don't try.

Also, if you look back I amended by blanket statement saying that there could be isolated players that somewhat quit, but have attached a red flag to their foreheads which will likely adversely affect their futures in the league.


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