Week 17 - Bucs vs Saints
 

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FWIW, the Bucs have a very good run defense.

And the Saints are not very good on the ground.

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Yeah, we're not that good in the air either......

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We’re not good.

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What I noticed in that Jags/Bucs game is how well Baker steps up in the pocket. Something Carrmaxx has struggled with ... all season long.

With no Lattimore, Mike Evans could do some damage. He's having an All Pro type season.

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Blowout

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I wonder how many players are actually in this to win it?

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I think most are. a lot guys have incentives, some are fighting for their careers. Not a good look to future suitors if you are perceived as given up. Think its pretty hard to "act" like they are if they really aren't. But hell who knows.

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I'd say most ... some are potentially auditioning for jobs elsewhere in 2024.

However looking at Kamara's body language last game (Rams), he's mentally checked out on this coaching staff.

I'm probably off base here but I just don't see the "will", "fire" & "desire" from players to lay it on the line for Allen. Was checking out that Raiders/Chiefs & Lions|Vikings game ... those players are performing HARD for Dan Campbell and interim HC Antonio Pierce.

Don't see that at all with Allen.

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I think Dennis Allen and Mickey Loomis have checked out and given up. I think Antonio Brown was more committed to the team at every moment during his tenures with both the Oakland Raiders and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers than DA and Loomis are to the Saints. They are just going through the motions and punching a clock so they can cash their checks. Loomis signed Carr and gave him tons of money because it locked up our salary cap and minimized our flexibility, leaving less work for him because few other transactions or moves would be possible other than simple base salary restructures, with no flexibility there are no tough decisions. Loomis frequently trades away our draft picks so the draft does not keep him off his precious golf course or away from the precious stocked cooler in his golf cart for 3 straight days. Those guys are max checked out. Guys like Kamara and Olave are probably the ones mostly coaching the team.