Ramczyk’s Future In Doubt

AsylumGuido · 03-26-2024, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Would you like to bet money on the Saints record in those starts? We can take any regular season games Penning starts in 2024. If he starts none, or the Saints go .500 in his starts, its a wash. If the Saints are over .500 in his starts you win. If they are under, I win. $100?

The Saints actually were 3-2 with Penning starting in 2023 so you could look at this as a good bet. However, the 3 wins came 3 of the 7 worst teams in the NFL by 2023 record, and two were won by a field goal or less.

Last I looked there are 53 players on the active roster. Only an idiot would bet an over or under win result on a single player. I'm not an idiot. Are you?

BakoSaint · 03-26-2024, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Last I looked there are 53 players on the active roster. Only an idiot would bet an over or under win result on a single player. I'm not an idiot. Are you?

Well, you said you would bet money that Penning will start, and followed that statement with a winking smiling emoji, implying that you are enthusiastic and optimistic about that prospect. I agree that Penning could start, but I am not optimistic about what would be the outcome if he does start. In your position, I would have chosen a different emoji to summarize my feeling about Penning starting, the one with two wide eyes expressing shock or worry.

Since you proposed a bet, but the specific difference in our opinion is on the effect of Penning starting, not the chance of Penning starting, I thought perhaps we could bet on that effect. Since you probably expect the Saints to win at least 10-12 games and you are excited about Penning as a starter, I thought we could bet on the Saints record in games Penning starts. It should be a pretty good deal for you because even if we repeat 9-8 and he starts every game, or he only starts 5 games and we go 3-2 in those games like last year, you win. The only way you lose is if my irrational fear of how Penning would perform as a starter materializes.

spkb25 · 03-27-2024, 06:50 AM

How many more wins broncos have this year?

SP covered up the aging team, ****e dead money, and overall horrible financial management. Dennis Allen isn't your problem, lack of talent is and huge contracts for old guys.

I can smell it, you stink

papz · 03-27-2024, 08:57 AM

“A few weeks ago, I was feeling a lot better about it, and yet I don’t know that I’m seeing as much progress as I was hoping to see at this point,” Allen said. “We got plenty of time. … We’re just going to have to wait and see how that all goes as we go through all the offseason and as we get into the training camp aspect.”

“There’s [a] long time before we kick the ball off,” Allen added. “I wouldn’t jump to any conclusions right now, but we’ll see how it goes over the next three, four, five, six months — whatever it is — before we get to the season.”

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According to NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, New Orleans is "preparing for the real possibility" that former All-Pro offensive tackle Ryan Ramczyk will be medically unable to play during the 2024 season.

It comes as quite a surprise after head coach Dennis Allen said Ramczyk was doing better at the NFL Scouting Combine a few weeks ago. His tone quickly changed when he told reporters at the annual league meeting that Ramczyk's availability "remains to be seen."

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AsylumGuido · 03-27-2024, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Well, you said you would bet money that Penning will start, and followed that statement with a winking smiling emoji, implying that you are enthusiastic and optimistic about that prospect. I agree that Penning could start, but I am not optimistic about what would be the outcome if he does start. In your position, I would have chosen a different emoji to summarize my feeling about Penning starting, the one with two wide eyes expressing shock or worry.

Since you proposed a bet, but the specific difference in our opinion is on the effect of Penning starting, not the chance of Penning starting, I thought perhaps we could bet on that effect. Since you probably expect the Saints to win at least 10-12 games and you are excited about Penning as a starter, I thought we could bet on the Saints record in games Penning starts. It should be a pretty good deal for you because even if we repeat 9-8 and he starts every game, or he only starts 5 games and we go 3-2 in those games like last year, you win. The only way you lose is if my irrational fear of how Penning would perform as a starter materializes.

First of all I was lightheartedly responding to neuguy, not you, when saying I'd bet him that Penning would earn a starting spot. Perhaps you need to mind your own business. Once again I have wasted far too much time feedingh your constant negativity with anything Saints.

Take your hate back to your goofy website.

AsylumGuido · 03-27-2024, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

How many more wins broncos have this year?

SP covered up the aging team, ****e dead money, and overall horrible financial management. Dennis Allen isn't your problem, lack of talent is and huge contracts for old guys.

I can smell it, you stink

I'm sure that stink is coming from somewhere much closer than you think. Why don't you crawl back into your hate hole, troll.

keithday123 · 03-28-2024, 09:54 AM

Is DA under any sort of obligation to give accurate details on a player in the offseason? For instance, do the Saints really want a Defensive End or some other position in the draft and are concerned that a team may try and move ahead of them to swipe a particular player. Maybe this news leaves teams with the impression that the Saints will definitely go O Line in the draft. Maybe just a reach but I know damn well if I were a coach or general manager I would never tell the truth if I didn’t have to.

voodooido · 03-28-2024, 10:30 AM

Why does everyone look at things as if the sky is falling? I’m so tired of reading this crap. If I wanted to read nothing but people’s opinions I’d watch the liberal news MSNBC. Look, the guy is having issues. Nothing we can do. If he comes back 75% of what he was he is still a top 10 tackle. If we move him inside that fixes our IOL problem. Tackle is very deep this year. Very good chance we get the top tackle in the draft at 14.

saintsfan1976 · 03-28-2024, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Why does everyone look at things as if the sky is falling? I’m so tired of reading this crap. If I wanted to read nothing but people’s opinions I’d watch the liberal news MSNBC. Look, the guy is having issues. Nothing we can do. If he comes back 75% of what he was he is still a top 10 tackle. If we move him inside that fixes our IOL problem. Tackle is very deep this year. Very good chance we get the top tackle in the draft at 14.

I don't think a guy with serious degenerative knee issues can just move to guard.

And I'm not sure HE wants to "come back 75%" and 1) risk further injury or 2) get beat like a drum because his knee is wrecked.

Yes, Tackle is deep, so draft one or TWO who can be day 1 players or sign Peat (devil you know and will over pay for) and draft one.

rezburna · 03-28-2024, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I don't think a guy with serious degenerative knee issues can just move to guard.

And I'm not sure HE wants to "come back 75%" and 1) risk further injury or 2) get beat like a drum because his knee is wrecked.

Yes, Tackle is deep, so draft one or TWO who can be day 1 players or sign Peat (devil you know and will over pay for) and draft one.

I'm going Olumuyiwa Fashanu and Cooper Beebee with my first two picks. Brand new LT and LG.

03-26-2024, 07:27 PM	#41
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,212	Re: Ramczyk’s Future In Doubt Originally Posted by BakoSaint Would you like to bet money on the Saints record in those starts? We can take any regular season games Penning starts in 2024. If he starts none, or the Saints go .500 in his starts, its a wash. If the Saints are over .500 in his starts you win. If they are under, I win. $100? The Saints actually were 3-2 with Penning starting in 2023 so you could look at this as a good bet. However, the 3 wins came 3 of the 7 worst teams in the NFL by 2023 record, and two were won by a field goal or less. Last I looked there are 53 players on the active roster. Only an idiot would bet an over or under win result on a single player. I'm not an idiot. Are you?

03-26-2024, 08:10 PM	#42
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,134	Re: Ramczyk’s Future In Doubt Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Last I looked there are 53 players on the active roster. Only an idiot would bet an over or under win result on a single player. I'm not an idiot. Are you? Well, you said you would bet money that Penning will start, and followed that statement with a winking smiling emoji, implying that you are enthusiastic and optimistic about that prospect. I agree that Penning could start, but I am not optimistic about what would be the outcome if he does start. In your position, I would have chosen a different emoji to summarize my feeling about Penning starting, the one with two wide eyes expressing shock or worry. Since you proposed a bet, but the specific difference in our opinion is on the effect of Penning starting, not the chance of Penning starting, I thought perhaps we could bet on that effect. Since you probably expect the Saints to win at least 10-12 games and you are excited about Penning as a starter, I thought we could bet on the Saints record in games Penning starts. It should be a pretty good deal for you because even if we repeat 9-8 and he starts every game, or he only starts 5 games and we go 3-2 in those games like last year, you win. The only way you lose is if my irrational fear of how Penning would perform as a starter materializes.
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03-27-2024, 06:50 AM	#43
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Ramczyk’s Future In Doubt How many more wins broncos have this year? SP covered up the aging team, ****e dead money, and overall horrible financial management. Dennis Allen isn't your problem, lack of talent is and huge contracts for old guys. I can smell it, you stink MatthewT likes this.

03-27-2024, 08:57 AM	#44
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: Ramczyk’s Future In Doubt “A few weeks ago, I was feeling a lot better about it, and yet I don’t know that I’m seeing as much progress as I was hoping to see at this point,” Allen said. “We got plenty of time. … We’re just going to have to wait and see how that all goes as we go through all the offseason and as we get into the training camp aspect.” “There’s [a] long time before we kick the ball off,” Allen added. “I wouldn’t jump to any conclusions right now, but we’ll see how it goes over the next three, four, five, six months — whatever it is — before we get to the season.” Link back According to NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, New Orleans is "preparing for the real possibility" that former All-Pro offensive tackle Ryan Ramczyk will be medically unable to play during the 2024 season. It comes as quite a surprise after head coach Dennis Allen said Ramczyk was doing better at the NFL Scouting Combine a few weeks ago. His tone quickly changed when he told reporters at the annual league meeting that Ramczyk's availability "remains to be seen." Link
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03-27-2024, 09:13 AM	#45
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,212	Re: Ramczyk’s Future In Doubt Originally Posted by BakoSaint Well, you said you would bet money that Penning will start, and followed that statement with a winking smiling emoji, implying that you are enthusiastic and optimistic about that prospect. I agree that Penning could start, but I am not optimistic about what would be the outcome if he does start. In your position, I would have chosen a different emoji to summarize my feeling about Penning starting, the one with two wide eyes expressing shock or worry. Since you proposed a bet, but the specific difference in our opinion is on the effect of Penning starting, not the chance of Penning starting, I thought perhaps we could bet on that effect. Since you probably expect the Saints to win at least 10-12 games and you are excited about Penning as a starter, I thought we could bet on the Saints record in games Penning starts. It should be a pretty good deal for you because even if we repeat 9-8 and he starts every game, or he only starts 5 games and we go 3-2 in those games like last year, you win. The only way you lose is if my irrational fear of how Penning would perform as a starter materializes. First of all I was lightheartedly responding to neuguy, not you, when saying I'd bet him that Penning would earn a starting spot. Perhaps you need to mind your own business. Once again I have wasted far too much time feedingh your constant negativity with anything Saints. Take your hate back to your goofy website.

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03-27-2024, 09:15 AM	#46
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,212	Re: Ramczyk’s Future In Doubt Originally Posted by spkb25 How many more wins broncos have this year? SP covered up the aging team, ****e dead money, and overall horrible financial management. Dennis Allen isn't your problem, lack of talent is and huge contracts for old guys. I can smell it, you stink I'm sure that stink is coming from somewhere much closer than you think. Why don't you crawl back into your hate hole, troll.

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keithday123 Texasaint Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 183	Re: Ramczyk’s Future In Doubt Is DA under any sort of obligation to give accurate details on a player in the offseason? For instance, do the Saints really want a Defensive End or some other position in the draft and are concerned that a team may try and move ahead of them to swipe a particular player. Maybe this news leaves teams with the impression that the Saints will definitely go O Line in the draft. Maybe just a reach but I know damn well if I were a coach or general manager I would never tell the truth if I didn’t have to.
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03-28-2024, 10:30 AM	#48
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,766	Re: Ramczyk’s Future In Doubt Why does everyone look at things as if the sky is falling? I’m so tired of reading this crap. If I wanted to read nothing but people’s opinions I’d watch the liberal news MSNBC. Look, the guy is having issues. Nothing we can do. If he comes back 75% of what he was he is still a top 10 tackle. If we move him inside that fixes our IOL problem. Tackle is very deep this year. Very good chance we get the top tackle in the draft at 14. AsylumGuido likes this.
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03-28-2024, 11:59 AM	#49
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Ramczyk’s Future In Doubt Originally Posted by voodooido Why does everyone look at things as if the sky is falling? I’m so tired of reading this crap. If I wanted to read nothing but people’s opinions I’d watch the liberal news MSNBC. Look, the guy is having issues. Nothing we can do. If he comes back 75% of what he was he is still a top 10 tackle. If we move him inside that fixes our IOL problem. Tackle is very deep this year. Very good chance we get the top tackle in the draft at 14. I don't think a guy with serious degenerative knee issues can just move to guard. And I'm not sure HE wants to "come back 75%" and 1) risk further injury or 2) get beat like a drum because his knee is wrecked. Yes, Tackle is deep, so draft one or TWO who can be day 1 players or sign Peat (devil you know and will over pay for) and draft one. MatthewT, SmashMouth and K Major like this.

03-28-2024, 12:08 PM	#50
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Ramczyk’s Future In Doubt Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I don't think a guy with serious degenerative knee issues can just move to guard. And I'm not sure HE wants to "come back 75%" and 1) risk further injury or 2) get beat like a drum because his knee is wrecked. Yes, Tackle is deep, so draft one or TWO who can be day 1 players or sign Peat (devil you know and will over pay for) and draft one. I'm going Olumuyiwa Fashanu and Cooper Beebee with my first two picks. Brand new LT and LG. MatthewT and saintsfan1976 like this.