OBSERVATIONS FROM SAINTS VICTORY OVER THE FALCONS (11 MINUTES REMAINING EDITION)

rezburna · 01-07-2024, 04:22 PM

Ryan Ramcyzk
Michael Thomas
Andrus Peat
Taysom Hill
James Hurst
Marcus Maye
Jamal Williams
And maybe even Cam Jordan and Marshon Lattimore wouldn’t be on the roster for me next year. I’d also consider moving Alvin Kamara.

Like Major said, time to go young.

SmashMouth · 01-07-2024, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

It’s time for a youth movement & new coaches.

These guys look and play OLD. Beating up on a terrible team changes nothing in my eyes.

LSU went 10-3 and just fired their ENTIRE defensive staff.
They have the desire and hunger to play for championships.

I just don’t see the vision from the Saints front office.

Dennis Allen is a big reason why we have failed …again.

Given the “soft” schedule & still missing the playoffs and being labeled as “safe” is just wild to me.

And just got a commitment from the #1 QB in the 2025 recruiting class.

Danno · 01-07-2024, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

It’s time for a youth movement & new coaches.

These guys look and play OLD. Beating up on a terrible team changes nothing in my eyes.

LSU went 10-3 and just fired their ENTIRE defensive staff.
They have the desire and hunger to play for championships.

I just don’t see the vision from the Saints front office.

Dennis Allen is a big reason why we have failed …again.

Given the “soft” schedule & still missing the playoffs and being labeled as “safe” is just wild to me.

I'm positive we'll see some changes, especially on offense. The front office can't be that blind, can they?

Sinner · 01-07-2024, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I'm positive we'll see some changes, especially on offense. The front office can't be that blind, can they?

THAT is literally a multimillion dollar question.

BakoSaint · 01-07-2024, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Ryan Ramcyzk
Michael Thomas
Andrus Peat
Taysom Hill
James Hurst
Marcus Maye
Jamal Williams
And maybe even Cam Jordan and Marshon Lattimore wouldn’t be on the roster for me next year. I’d also consider moving Alvin Kamara.

Like Major said, time to go young.

Unfortunately, we can't afford to move on from all those players. I wish we could but the way the salary cap works, if you keep a player, you can refinance their salary over 5 years every year, but if they leave the roster everything you financed 4-5 years out comes due at once. Since we restructure every veteran every year, if we cut them we owe 2023 money restructured to 2024-2027, 2022 money restructured to 2024-2026, 2021 money restructured to to 2024-2025, and 2020 money restructured to 2024. If we keep them and restructure we only owe the money restructured to 2024 now and we can restructure their new 2024 money out to 2028. In the long run we owe a lot less if we could move, but because of the way ML has managed the cap we can't afford to move on and get that long term savings because short term we can't afford the early termination fee.

If we had the cap flexibility I agree with moving on from all the players you even mention as maybes except that I think Peat at $4 million for LT is a good value unless we are able to take a sure-fire not-raw Day 1 ready LT in the 1st round. It would be irresonsible to pursue an expensive LT in free agency and we have a tendency to pursue projects in the draft, so keeping Peat as an option at LT may be smart. He is not a guard though.

SmashMouth · 01-07-2024, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Unfortunately, we can't afford to move on from all those players. I wish we could but the way the salary cap works, if you keep a player, you can refinance their salary over 5 years every year, but if they leave the roster everything you financed 4-5 years out comes due at once.

Precisely why I think we keep Popeys Sammich Peat as a decent back up. Hurst too. And Crab Legs (he just restructured).

We're still over the cap by about $90 million or so.

shawnkytonk · 01-07-2024, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

Imagine if a team’s only objective was to beat the Falcons… at least once. Especially when it didn’t matter. That would be special.

Your comment only show how truly stupid you are. Congrats!

Sinner · 01-07-2024, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

Your comment only show how truly stupid you are. Congrats!

GREAT WIN TODAY!!! Now let’s watch some serious contenders play.

shawnkytonk · 01-07-2024, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Ryan Ramcyzk
Michael Thomas
Andrus Peat
Taysom Hill
James Hurst
Marcus Maye
Jamal Williams
And maybe even Cam Jordan and Marshon Lattimore wouldn’t be on the roster for me next year. I’d also consider moving Alvin Kamara.

Like Major said, time to go young.

Agreed. Hard to see being able to get rid of Lattimore. Ram is the one that hurts.

SmashMouth · 01-07-2024, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

Agreed. Hard to see being able to get rid of Lattimore. Ram is the one that hurts.

We'll see if he can medically come back.

01-07-2024, 04:22 PM	#11
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,891	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM SAINTS VICTORY OVER THE FALCONS (11 MINUTES REMAINING EDITION) Ryan Ramcyzk Michael Thomas Andrus Peat Taysom Hill James Hurst Marcus Maye Jamal Williams And maybe even Cam Jordan and Marshon Lattimore wouldn’t be on the roster for me next year. I’d also consider moving Alvin Kamara. Like Major said, time to go young. Danno, MatthewT, SmashMouth and 2 others like this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,123 Blog Entries: 29	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM SAINTS VICTORY OVER THE FALCONS (11 MINUTES REMAINING EDITION) Originally Posted by K Major It’s time for a youth movement & new coaches. These guys look and play OLD. Beating up on a terrible team changes nothing in my eyes. LSU went 10-3 and just fired their ENTIRE defensive staff. They have the desire and hunger to play for championships. I just don’t see the vision from the Saints front office. Dennis Allen is a big reason why we have failed …again. Given the “soft” schedule & still missing the playoffs and being labeled as “safe” is just wild to me. And just got a commitment from the #1 QB in the 2025 recruiting class.

01-07-2024, 04:24 PM	#13
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM SAINTS VICTORY OVER THE FALCONS (11 MINUTES REMAINING EDITION) Originally Posted by K Major It’s time for a youth movement & new coaches. These guys look and play OLD. Beating up on a terrible team changes nothing in my eyes. LSU went 10-3 and just fired their ENTIRE defensive staff. They have the desire and hunger to play for championships. I just don’t see the vision from the Saints front office. Dennis Allen is a big reason why we have failed …again. Given the “soft” schedule & still missing the playoffs and being labeled as “safe” is just wild to me. I'm positive we'll see some changes, especially on offense. The front office can't be that blind, can they? Rugby Saint II, Sinner and K Major like this.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,866	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM SAINTS VICTORY OVER THE FALCONS (11 MINUTES REMAINING EDITION) Originally Posted by Danno I'm positive we'll see some changes, especially on offense. The front office can't be that blind, can they? THAT is literally a multimillion dollar question. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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01-07-2024, 04:25 PM	#15
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,129	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM SAINTS VICTORY OVER THE FALCONS (11 MINUTES REMAINING EDITION) Originally Posted by rezburna Ryan Ramcyzk Michael Thomas Andrus Peat Taysom Hill James Hurst Marcus Maye Jamal Williams And maybe even Cam Jordan and Marshon Lattimore wouldn’t be on the roster for me next year. I’d also consider moving Alvin Kamara. Like Major said, time to go young. Unfortunately, we can't afford to move on from all those players. I wish we could but the way the salary cap works, if you keep a player, you can refinance their salary over 5 years every year, but if they leave the roster everything you financed 4-5 years out comes due at once. Since we restructure every veteran every year, if we cut them we owe 2023 money restructured to 2024-2027, 2022 money restructured to 2024-2026, 2021 money restructured to to 2024-2025, and 2020 money restructured to 2024. If we keep them and restructure we only owe the money restructured to 2024 now and we can restructure their new 2024 money out to 2028. In the long run we owe a lot less if we could move, but because of the way ML has managed the cap we can't afford to move on and get that long term savings because short term we can't afford the early termination fee. If we had the cap flexibility I agree with moving on from all the players you even mention as maybes except that I think Peat at $4 million for LT is a good value unless we are able to take a sure-fire not-raw Day 1 ready LT in the 1st round. It would be irresonsible to pursue an expensive LT in free agency and we have a tendency to pursue projects in the draft, so keeping Peat as an option at LT may be smart. He is not a guard though. MatthewT likes this.
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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,123 Blog Entries: 29	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM SAINTS VICTORY OVER THE FALCONS (11 MINUTES REMAINING EDITION) Originally Posted by BakoSaint Unfortunately, we can't afford to move on from all those players. I wish we could but the way the salary cap works, if you keep a player, you can refinance their salary over 5 years every year, but if they leave the roster everything you financed 4-5 years out comes due at once. Precisely why I think we keep Popeys Sammich Peat as a decent back up. Hurst too. And Crab Legs (he just restructured). We're still over the cap by about $90 million or so.

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shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 741	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM SAINTS VICTORY OVER THE FALCONS (11 MINUTES REMAINING EDITION) Originally Posted by Sinner Imagine if a team’s only objective was to beat the Falcons… at least once. Especially when it didn’t matter. That would be special. Your comment only show how truly stupid you are. Congrats!

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,866	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM SAINTS VICTORY OVER THE FALCONS (11 MINUTES REMAINING EDITION) Originally Posted by shawnkytonk Your comment only show how truly stupid you are. Congrats! GREAT WIN TODAY!!! Now let’s watch some serious contenders play.
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01-07-2024, 04:39 PM	#19
shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 741	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM SAINTS VICTORY OVER THE FALCONS (11 MINUTES REMAINING EDITION) Originally Posted by rezburna Ryan Ramcyzk Michael Thomas Andrus Peat Taysom Hill James Hurst Marcus Maye Jamal Williams And maybe even Cam Jordan and Marshon Lattimore wouldn’t be on the roster for me next year. I’d also consider moving Alvin Kamara. Like Major said, time to go young. Agreed. Hard to see being able to get rid of Lattimore. Ram is the one that hurts.

01-07-2024, 04:40 PM	#20
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,123 Blog Entries: 29	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM SAINTS VICTORY OVER THE FALCONS (11 MINUTES REMAINING EDITION) Originally Posted by shawnkytonk Agreed. Hard to see being able to get rid of Lattimore. Ram is the one that hurts. We'll see if he can medically come back.