OBSERVATIONS FROM SAINTS VICTORY OVER THE FALCONS (11 MINUTES REMAINING EDITION)

shawnkytonk · 01-07-2024, 03:17 PM

Imagine calling yourself a “fan” and whining about a huge win against the Falcons. Can’t be more of a fraud than this turd in the punch bowl.

Sinner · 01-07-2024, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

Imagine calling yourself a “fan” and whining about a huge win against the Falcons. Can’t be more of a fraud than this turd in the punch bowl.

Imagine if a team’s only objective was to beat the Falcons… at least once. Especially when it didn’t matter. That would be special.

shawnkytonk · 01-07-2024, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

Imagine if a team’s only objective was to beat the Falcons… at least once. Especially when it didn’t matter. That would be special.

Your comment only show how truly stupid you are. Congrats!

Sinner · 01-07-2024, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by shawnkytonk

Your comment only show how truly stupid you are. Congrats!

GREAT WIN TODAY!!! Now let’s watch some serious contenders play.

neugey · 01-07-2024, 03:18 PM

We're the hottest team in the NFC South! Which is about as impressive as being the healthiest food item at a Five Guys restaurant.

But surely the refs and Roger will help us now, right? LOL

papz · 01-07-2024, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

We're the hottest team in the NFC South! Which is about as impressive as being the healthiest food item at a Five Guys restaurant.

But surely the refs and Roger will help us now, right? LOL

Which is kind of the case with our team in general over the past handful of years. Sure we were winning games under Payton during that time, but did we really, honestly, have a chance? I thought after the Viking and then the Rams loss, the vibe just changed. We need change, real change.

Thanks for the chuckle.

rezburna · 01-07-2024, 03:22 PM

Ryan Ramcyzk
Michael Thomas
Andrus Peat
Taysom Hill
James Hurst
Marcus Maye
Jamal Williams
And maybe even Cam Jordan and Marshon Lattimore wouldn’t be on the roster for me next year. I’d also consider moving Alvin Kamara.

Like Major said, time to go young.

BakoSaint · 01-07-2024, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Ryan Ramcyzk
Michael Thomas
Andrus Peat
Taysom Hill
James Hurst
Marcus Maye
Jamal Williams
And maybe even Cam Jordan and Marshon Lattimore wouldn’t be on the roster for me next year. I’d also consider moving Alvin Kamara.

Like Major said, time to go young.

Unfortunately, we can't afford to move on from all those players. I wish we could but the way the salary cap works, if you keep a player, you can refinance their salary over 5 years every year, but if they leave the roster everything you financed 4-5 years out comes due at once. Since we restructure every veteran every year, if we cut them we owe 2023 money restructured to 2024-2027, 2022 money restructured to 2024-2026, 2021 money restructured to to 2024-2025, and 2020 money restructured to 2024. If we keep them and restructure we only owe the money restructured to 2024 now and we can restructure their new 2024 money out to 2028. In the long run we owe a lot less if we could move, but because of the way ML has managed the cap we can't afford to move on and get that long term savings because short term we can't afford the early termination fee.

If we had the cap flexibility I agree with moving on from all the players you even mention as maybes except that I think Peat at $4 million for LT is a good value unless we are able to take a sure-fire not-raw Day 1 ready LT in the 1st round. It would be irresonsible to pursue an expensive LT in free agency and we have a tendency to pursue projects in the draft, so keeping Peat as an option at LT may be smart. He is not a guard though.

SmashMouth · 01-07-2024, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Unfortunately, we can't afford to move on from all those players. I wish we could but the way the salary cap works, if you keep a player, you can refinance their salary over 5 years every year, but if they leave the roster everything you financed 4-5 years out comes due at once.

Precisely why I think we keep Popeys Sammich Peat as a decent back up. Hurst too. And Crab Legs (he just restructured).

We're still over the cap by about $90 million or so.

shawnkytonk · 01-07-2024, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Ryan Ramcyzk
Michael Thomas
Andrus Peat
Taysom Hill
James Hurst
Marcus Maye
Jamal Williams
And maybe even Cam Jordan and Marshon Lattimore wouldn’t be on the roster for me next year. I’d also consider moving Alvin Kamara.

Like Major said, time to go young.

Agreed. Hard to see being able to get rid of Lattimore. Ram is the one that hurts.

01-07-2024, 03:17 PM	#1
shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 741	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM SAINTS VICTORY OVER THE FALCONS (11 MINUTES REMAINING EDITION) Imagine calling yourself a “fan” and whining about a huge win against the Falcons. Can’t be more of a fraud than this turd in the punch bowl.

01-07-2024, 03:21 PM	#2
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,072	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM SAINTS VICTORY OVER THE FALCONS (11 MINUTES REMAINING EDITION) Originally Posted by shawnkytonk Imagine calling yourself a “fan” and whining about a huge win against the Falcons. Can’t be more of a fraud than this turd in the punch bowl. Imagine if a team’s only objective was to beat the Falcons… at least once. Especially when it didn’t matter. That would be special. K Major likes this.
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01-07-2024, 03:30 PM	#3
shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 741	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM SAINTS VICTORY OVER THE FALCONS (11 MINUTES REMAINING EDITION) Originally Posted by Sinner Imagine if a team’s only objective was to beat the Falcons… at least once. Especially when it didn’t matter. That would be special. Your comment only show how truly stupid you are. Congrats!

01-07-2024, 03:32 PM	#4
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,072	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM SAINTS VICTORY OVER THE FALCONS (11 MINUTES REMAINING EDITION) Originally Posted by shawnkytonk Your comment only show how truly stupid you are. Congrats! GREAT WIN TODAY!!! Now let’s watch some serious contenders play.
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01-07-2024, 03:18 PM	#5
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,876 Blog Entries: 13	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM SAINTS VICTORY OVER THE FALCONS (11 MINUTES REMAINING EDITION) We're the hottest team in the NFC South! Which is about as impressive as being the healthiest food item at a Five Guys restaurant. But surely the refs and Roger will help us now, right? LOL papz and Sinner like this.

01-07-2024, 05:34 PM	#6
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,794	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM SAINTS VICTORY OVER THE FALCONS (11 MINUTES REMAINING EDITION) Originally Posted by neugey We're the hottest team in the NFC South! Which is about as impressive as being the healthiest food item at a Five Guys restaurant. But surely the refs and Roger will help us now, right? LOL Which is kind of the case with our team in general over the past handful of years. Sure we were winning games under Payton during that time, but did we really, honestly, have a chance? I thought after the Viking and then the Rams loss, the vibe just changed. We need change, real change. Thanks for the chuckle. SmashMouth and Sinner like this.

01-07-2024, 03:22 PM	#7
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,114	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM SAINTS VICTORY OVER THE FALCONS (11 MINUTES REMAINING EDITION) Ryan Ramcyzk Michael Thomas Andrus Peat Taysom Hill James Hurst Marcus Maye Jamal Williams And maybe even Cam Jordan and Marshon Lattimore wouldn’t be on the roster for me next year. I’d also consider moving Alvin Kamara. Like Major said, time to go young. Danno, MatthewT, SmashMouth and 2 others like this.

01-07-2024, 03:25 PM	#8
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,407	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM SAINTS VICTORY OVER THE FALCONS (11 MINUTES REMAINING EDITION) Originally Posted by rezburna Ryan Ramcyzk Michael Thomas Andrus Peat Taysom Hill James Hurst Marcus Maye Jamal Williams And maybe even Cam Jordan and Marshon Lattimore wouldn’t be on the roster for me next year. I’d also consider moving Alvin Kamara. Like Major said, time to go young. Unfortunately, we can't afford to move on from all those players. I wish we could but the way the salary cap works, if you keep a player, you can refinance their salary over 5 years every year, but if they leave the roster everything you financed 4-5 years out comes due at once. Since we restructure every veteran every year, if we cut them we owe 2023 money restructured to 2024-2027, 2022 money restructured to 2024-2026, 2021 money restructured to to 2024-2025, and 2020 money restructured to 2024. If we keep them and restructure we only owe the money restructured to 2024 now and we can restructure their new 2024 money out to 2028. In the long run we owe a lot less if we could move, but because of the way ML has managed the cap we can't afford to move on and get that long term savings because short term we can't afford the early termination fee. If we had the cap flexibility I agree with moving on from all the players you even mention as maybes except that I think Peat at $4 million for LT is a good value unless we are able to take a sure-fire not-raw Day 1 ready LT in the 1st round. It would be irresonsible to pursue an expensive LT in free agency and we have a tendency to pursue projects in the draft, so keeping Peat as an option at LT may be smart. He is not a guard though. MatthewT likes this.
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01-07-2024, 03:30 PM	#9
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,961 Blog Entries: 29	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM SAINTS VICTORY OVER THE FALCONS (11 MINUTES REMAINING EDITION) Originally Posted by BakoSaint Unfortunately, we can't afford to move on from all those players. I wish we could but the way the salary cap works, if you keep a player, you can refinance their salary over 5 years every year, but if they leave the roster everything you financed 4-5 years out comes due at once. Precisely why I think we keep Popeys Sammich Peat as a decent back up. Hurst too. And Crab Legs (he just restructured). We're still over the cap by about $90 million or so.

01-07-2024, 03:39 PM	#10
shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 741	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM SAINTS VICTORY OVER THE FALCONS (11 MINUTES REMAINING EDITION) Originally Posted by rezburna Ryan Ramcyzk Michael Thomas Andrus Peat Taysom Hill James Hurst Marcus Maye Jamal Williams And maybe even Cam Jordan and Marshon Lattimore wouldn’t be on the roster for me next year. I’d also consider moving Alvin Kamara. Like Major said, time to go young. Agreed. Hard to see being able to get rid of Lattimore. Ram is the one that hurts.

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