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Report: Saints considering adding Jon Gruden to offensive staff

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido No hint needed. The contract alone guarantees Carr is staying. Besides, Carr isn't as bad as some of you try to make others believe. He is a very respectable QB when given decent protection and decent ...

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Old 01-08-2024, 06:37 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
No hint needed. The contract alone guarantees Carr is staying. Besides, Carr isn't as bad as some of you try to make others believe. He is a very respectable QB when given decent protection and decent play calling. He isn't Brees, but who is? He way better than what we've put up with the last few years, including Brees' final season. The only thing that kept Brees somewhat relevant was Payton's play design and play calling. We all know Brees' arm was gone and his savvy was the only thing keeping him above water.
We all knew Brees’ arm was gone a long time ago, so we got savvy and took what the Raiders tossed to the curb. Don’t let that little bit of “poof” at the end of our ridiculous season fog up your rose colored glasses.
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We all knew Brees’ arm was gone a long time ago, so we got savvy and took what the Raiders tossed to the curb. Don’t let that little bit of “poof” at the end of our ridiculous season fog up your rose colored glasses.

This entire coaching staff underachieved, QB included.
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Gruden comes I am officially done with the saints til he is gone
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Old 01-09-2024, 06:32 AM   #14
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Gruden (though IMO he's on the right side of it) is persona non grata in the NFL and the Saints are an NFL franchise. The views of Gruden by the NFL can only get worse. It'd be a colossal mistake to bring him or even Jay on board. Even if Gruden was Vince Lombardi and Don Shula rolled into one we can't hire him from a business standpoint.
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Originally Posted by nola_swammi View Post
Gruden comes I am officially done with the saints til he is gone
Curious to know your reason(s)
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Old 01-09-2024, 07:55 AM   #16
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Not a fan. If you're going to bring him in, just make him the Head Coach. Will take Pierce from the Raiders though.
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I’m not opposed to Gruden, just think we can do better.
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Old 01-09-2024, 08:04 AM   #18
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Guess we need to wait for something official but in one article I read it basically implied that Carmichael would remain OC and Gruden would be an assistant. ????
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Old 01-09-2024, 08:29 AM   #19
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
No hint needed. The contract alone guarantees Carr is staying. Besides, Carr isn't as bad as some of you try to make others believe. He is a very respectable QB when given decent protection and decent play calling. He isn't Brees, but who is? He way better than what we've put up with the last few years, including Brees' final season. The only thing that kept Brees somewhat relevant was Payton's play design and play calling. We all know Brees' arm was gone and his savvy was the only thing keeping him above water.
Carr is consistently inconsistent ... another JAG, as his performance this season, proved... Reference Kenny Stabler.....

Saints are now a, "put out to pasture" football organization. For has been players. .... pre retirement/old folks home.
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I’m not opposed to Gruden, just think we can do better.
^^^ This right here.

Don't just make a "lazy" hire because he had a previous relationship with Carr from years back.

There are some good, young offensive minds out there. Go find one.

The "continuity" angle is played. Saints are sitting at home for a reason.
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