Report: Saints considering adding Jon Gruden to offensive staff

Sinner · 01-08-2024, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

No hint needed. The contract alone guarantees Carr is staying. Besides, Carr isn't as bad as some of you try to make others believe. He is a very respectable QB when given decent protection and decent play calling. He isn't Brees, but who is? He way better than what we've put up with the last few years, including Brees' final season. The only thing that kept Brees somewhat relevant was Payton's play design and play calling. We all know Brees' arm was gone and his savvy was the only thing keeping him above water.

We all knew Brees’ arm was gone a long time ago, so we got savvy and took what the Raiders tossed to the curb. Don’t let that little bit of “poof” at the end of our ridiculous season fog up your rose colored glasses.

K Major · 01-08-2024, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

We all knew Brees’ arm was gone a long time ago, so we got savvy and took what the Raiders tossed to the curb. Don’t let that little bit of “poof” at the end of our ridiculous season fog up your rose colored glasses.

This entire coaching staff underachieved, QB included.

nola_swammi · 01-08-2024, 11:04 PM

Gruden comes I am officially done with the saints til he is gone

neugey · 01-09-2024, 06:32 AM

Gruden (though IMO he's on the right side of it) is persona non grata in the NFL and the Saints are an NFL franchise. The views of Gruden by the NFL can only get worse. It'd be a colossal mistake to bring him or even Jay on board. Even if Gruden was Vince Lombardi and Don Shula rolled into one we can't hire him from a business standpoint.

saintsfan1976 · 01-09-2024, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

Gruden comes I am officially done with the saints til he is gone

Curious to know your reason(s)

Cruize · 01-09-2024, 07:55 AM

Not a fan. If you're going to bring him in, just make him the Head Coach. Will take Pierce from the Raiders though.

rezburna · 01-09-2024, 07:57 AM

I’m not opposed to Gruden, just think we can do better.

WW_Who_Dat · 01-09-2024, 08:04 AM

Guess we need to wait for something official but in one article I read it basically implied that Carmichael would remain OC and Gruden would be an assistant. ????

mapcow · 01-09-2024, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

No hint needed. The contract alone guarantees Carr is staying. Besides, Carr isn't as bad as some of you try to make others believe. He is a very respectable QB when given decent protection and decent play calling. He isn't Brees, but who is? He way better than what we've put up with the last few years, including Brees' final season. The only thing that kept Brees somewhat relevant was Payton's play design and play calling. We all know Brees' arm was gone and his savvy was the only thing keeping him above water.

Carr is consistently inconsistent ... another JAG, as his performance this season, proved... Reference Kenny Stabler.....

Saints are now a, "put out to pasture" football organization. For has been players. .... pre retirement/old folks home.

K Major · 01-09-2024, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I’m not opposed to Gruden, just think we can do better.

^^^ This right here.

Don't just make a "lazy" hire because he had a previous relationship with Carr from years back.

There are some good, young offensive minds out there. Go find one.

The "continuity" angle is played. Saints are sitting at home for a reason.

01-08-2024, 06:37 PM	#11
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 2,768	Re: Report: Saints considering adding Jon Gruden to offensive staff Originally Posted by AsylumGuido No hint needed. The contract alone guarantees Carr is staying. Besides, Carr isn't as bad as some of you try to make others believe. He is a very respectable QB when given decent protection and decent play calling. He isn't Brees, but who is? He way better than what we've put up with the last few years, including Brees' final season. The only thing that kept Brees somewhat relevant was Payton's play design and play calling. We all know Brees' arm was gone and his savvy was the only thing keeping him above water. We all knew Brees’ arm was gone a long time ago, so we got savvy and took what the Raiders tossed to the curb. Don’t let that little bit of “poof” at the end of our ridiculous season fog up your rose colored glasses. SmashMouth and K Major like this.
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01-08-2024, 10:15 PM	#12
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,057 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Report: Saints considering adding Jon Gruden to offensive staff Originally Posted by Sinner We all knew Brees’ arm was gone a long time ago, so we got savvy and took what the Raiders tossed to the curb. Don’t let that little bit of “poof” at the end of our ridiculous season fog up your rose colored glasses. This entire coaching staff underachieved, QB included. SmashMouth and Sinner like this.

01-08-2024, 11:04 PM	#13
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Report: Saints considering adding Jon Gruden to offensive staff Gruden comes I am officially done with the saints til he is gone

01-09-2024, 06:32 AM	#14
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,606 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Report: Saints considering adding Jon Gruden to offensive staff Gruden (though IMO he's on the right side of it) is persona non grata in the NFL and the Saints are an NFL franchise. The views of Gruden by the NFL can only get worse. It'd be a colossal mistake to bring him or even Jay on board. Even if Gruden was Vince Lombardi and Don Shula rolled into one we can't hire him from a business standpoint.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,540 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Report: Saints considering adding Jon Gruden to offensive staff Originally Posted by nola_swammi Gruden comes I am officially done with the saints til he is gone Curious to know your reason(s)

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01-09-2024, 07:55 AM	#16
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,295	Re: Report: Saints considering adding Jon Gruden to offensive staff Not a fan. If you're going to bring him in, just make him the Head Coach. Will take Pierce from the Raiders though.
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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,671	Re: Report: Saints considering adding Jon Gruden to offensive staff I’m not opposed to Gruden, just think we can do better. leilung, SmashMouth, mapcow and 4 others like this.

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WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,164 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Report: Saints considering adding Jon Gruden to offensive staff Guess we need to wait for something official but in one article I read it basically implied that Carmichael would remain OC and Gruden would be an assistant. ????

01-09-2024, 08:29 AM	#19
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,335	Re: Report: Saints considering adding Jon Gruden to offensive staff Originally Posted by AsylumGuido No hint needed. The contract alone guarantees Carr is staying. Besides, Carr isn't as bad as some of you try to make others believe. He is a very respectable QB when given decent protection and decent play calling. He isn't Brees, but who is? He way better than what we've put up with the last few years, including Brees' final season. The only thing that kept Brees somewhat relevant was Payton's play design and play calling. We all know Brees' arm was gone and his savvy was the only thing keeping him above water. Carr is consistently inconsistent ... another JAG, as his performance this season, proved... Reference Kenny Stabler..... Saints are now a, "put out to pasture" football organization. For has been players. .... pre retirement/old folks home. Sinner likes this.
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01-09-2024, 09:21 AM	#20
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,057 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Report: Saints considering adding Jon Gruden to offensive staff Originally Posted by rezburna I’m not opposed to Gruden, just think we can do better. ^^^ This right here. Don't just make a "lazy" hire because he had a previous relationship with Carr from years back. There are some good, young offensive minds out there. Go find one. The "continuity" angle is played. Saints are sitting at home for a reason. Rugby Saint II and Sinner like this.