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saintsfan1976 01-13-2024 06:19 AM

2024 Senior Bowl - Prospects To Watch
 
DATE: Saturday, February 3, 2024
TIME: 12:00pm CT
WHERE: Mobile, Alabama
STADIUM: University of South Alabama, Hancock Whitney Stadium
TELEVISION: NFL Network

https://www.seniorbowl.com/

Accepted Invites: https://www.seniorbowl.com/accepted-invites/

saintsfan1976 01-13-2024 06:45 AM

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https://www.nfl.com/news/2024-senior...u-need-to-know

At initial glance, the 2024 class appears a bit stronger on paper.

Oregon's Bo Nix is one of the headliners of the group. The former Auburn QB had some terrific moments in the SEC but has completely remade his game and become a more complete passer with the Ducks, so it will be interesting seeing him return to the state of Alabama as a more advanced prospect.

South Carolina's Spencer Rattler doesn't come with the same buzz he generated early in his college career, but that doesn't mean there isn't intrigue in the dual-threat passer. Tennessee's Joe Milton III is a bigger-bodied athlete with some similar traits. He's raw in some respects, but there is high upside.

Tulane's Michael Pratt might be the wild-card QB of the week. He improved with each season as a passer and raised the Green Wave program immensely. Notre Dame's Sam Hartman has thrown for 101 TDs his past three seasons combined, both with the Irish and at Wake Forest before that.

Right now, there are five quarterbacks committed to the Senior Bowl, so will we see at least one more added to the roster? LSU's Jayden Daniels and Washington's Michael Penix Jr. are two big uncommitted names to watch, with Nagy previously hinting we could see Penix in Mobile. That was prior to Washington's national-championship loss to Michigan on Monday, when Penix took some hard hits from the Wolverines.

saintsfan1976 01-13-2024 06:46 AM

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https://www.thedraftscout.com/p/2024...mplete-rosters

The 2024 Senior Bowl rosters have been announced, barring a few late additions, and this year there’s a change—the “senior” bowl is allowing underclassmen as part of a new NFL rule that allows declared underclassmen to participate in all-star games.

Redshirt sophomores and juniors—players who have completed three years of college—can apply for special admission to the NFL prior to the hard deadline of January 15. These players can then be accepted to an all-star game like the Senior Bowl or Shrine Game.

Thanks to this, the 2024 Senior Bowl rosters are the deepest we’ve seen at multiple positions.

Let’s do a breakdown of each group and look at the best player from every position.

K Major 01-13-2024 10:05 AM

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I think NT should be addressed early in the draft.

RT as well. Father Time has caught up with Cam Jordan so ... better grab an athletic DE while you're at it. Preferably within the first 3 rounds.

Rugby Saint II 01-13-2024 10:31 AM

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I wonder how many players will come from the Senior bowl next year? The Saints mine for treasure at the Senior bowl.

saintsfan1976 01-13-2024 02:38 PM

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Although the draft is deep, QB feels like a luxury when the O line could be without Peat and Ram next season and little depth behind them..

I'm looking for O and D linemen. Another WR as well.

dizzle88 01-13-2024 03:33 PM

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We are going to miss out on Jayden Daniels, because Allen is the coach.

saintsfan1976 01-14-2024 08:17 AM

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Or he may go top 10. In which case it's hard to justify the capital it'll take to move up.

K Major 01-14-2024 08:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 991223)
We are going to miss out on Jayden Daniels, because Allen is the coach.

Daniels, Nix or Penix Jr could ALL be sitting there when it’s the Saints pick & they are adamant about NOT selecting a QB.

Loomis wants to be right so bad with a mediocre, 33 year old QB & a terrible HC.

Saints gotta start hitting home runs with their draft picks.

neugey 01-14-2024 10:50 AM

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I hope Longhorns Outland winner DT Sweat will be there in the second round. Sweat and Bresee would be a nice interior tandem.

Rugby Saint II 01-14-2024 11:39 AM

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Is anyone going to the Senior bowl?

K Major 01-14-2024 01:53 PM

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I think drafting another o- lineman early on should be a no brainer.

Collectively this group didn’t perform well. MCcoy graded (79.4 per PFF) out as of best, while Ruiz graded as the worst (51.2).

Now with the uncertainty with Ramz, you gotta get more re enforcements in those trenches.

Kamara and Jamaal had very few run lanes.

rezburna 01-14-2024 03:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 991244)
I think drafting another o- lineman early on should be a no brainer.

Collectively this group didn’t perform well. MCcoy graded (79.4 per PFF) out as of best, while Ruiz graded as the worst (51.2).

Now with the uncertainty with Ramz, you gotta get more re enforcements in those trenches.

Kamara and Jamaal had very few run lanes.

Wish we were in position to grab Joe Alt. Would love to see us move back and really attack adding players to the offensive line. I’d say let Cam Erving replace Ram for now, grab a tackle to replace Peat and then draft a guard to put on the left side. I’d be drafting offensive and defensive line exclusively.

lee909 01-14-2024 05:40 PM

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Can we draft a coach?

Cruize 01-15-2024 08:13 AM

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If your staff hasn't already got all the information on the draft prospects, you need to hire a new scouting department. One glorified flag football game shouldn't be a way to set up your draft board.

K Major 01-15-2024 11:18 AM

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Saints should also scout the CB position.

I believe there is a good chance Lattimore is traded this off season.

That would sting 🐝.

Rugby Saint II 01-15-2024 01:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 991250)
Can we draft a coach?

I wish we could draft a coach but we haven't drafted that well recently. So, there's that to think about.....

However, I don't know why we don't bring in some college coaches for a fresh perspective. It worked well in the past.

papz 01-15-2024 02:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 991214)
I think NT should be addressed early in the draft.

RT as well. Father Time has caught up with Cam Jordan so ... better grab an athletic DE while you're at it. Preferably within the first 3 rounds.

We've been swinging but we just keep on missing.

Davenport, Turner, Foskey... :crying:

I think we should try this for a change. Let's try to focus on getting someone that is HEALTHY and explosive for a change.

K Major 01-29-2024 11:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by papz (Post 991313)
We've been swinging but we just keep on missing.

Davenport, Turner, Foskey... :crying:

I think we should try this for a change. Let's try to focus on getting someone that is HEALTHY and explosive for a change.

Agreed and acknowledged.

K Major 01-29-2024 11:08 AM

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Needs: Defensive tackle
Needs: Offensive tackle
Needs: Guard
Biggest Need: Defensive end

I say DE as the "biggest" because we rank near the bottom half in lowest sacks & pass rush in 2023.

I'd target someone in the draft, however if the Saints opt in Free Agency I like Dorance Armstrong (Cowboys).

In the draft I like .. Jared Verse (Fl State)

SmashMouth 01-29-2024 11:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by papz (Post 991313)
We've been swinging but we just keep on missing.

Davenport, Turner, Foskey... :crying:

I think we should try this for a change. Let's try to focus on getting someone that is HEALTHY and explosive for a change.

Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 992097)
Agreed and acknowledged.

Can WTFoskey turn into Cam Jordan with a bit more seasoning? Cam didn't exactly become an instant sensation himself.

K Major 01-29-2024 11:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 992101)
Can WTFoskey turn into Cam Jordan with a bit more seasoning? Cam didn't exactly become an instant sensation himself.

WTFoskey lmao :p!

Cam Jordan had decent numbers as a rookie though. Not to mention he is an IRON MAN. Played in all 16 games - season one.

Isaiah needs to ice up with the conditioning & get in some meaningful reps for 2024.

Granderson needs help off the edge :bng:

AsylumGuido 01-30-2024 09:15 AM

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K Major 01-30-2024 11:40 AM

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Senior Bowl practice live updates: Top 2024 NFL draft risers


The Saints scouts MUST hit on this 2024 Draft Class.

No duds, slackers, projects or guys with questionable medicals :rolleyes:.

My thought process in round 1 is to find a QUALITY STARTER (see Olave), anything above and beyond is lagniappe.

Rugby Saint II 01-30-2024 03:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 992212)

Senior Bowl practice live updates: Top 2024 NFL draft risers


The Saints scouts MUST hit on this 2024 Draft Class.

No duds, slackers, projects or guys with questionable medicals :rolleyes:.

My thought process in round 1 is to find a QUALITY STARTER (see Olave), anything above and beyond is lagniappe.

We better hit with both first and second round picks because we don't pick again until the fifth round. That's not counting late comp picks.

Danno 01-30-2024 03:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 992225)
We better hit with both first and second round picks because we don't pick again until the fifth round. That's not counting late comp picks.

But we have four 5th round picks and two 6th round picks. You can still pick up quality players in the 5th and 6th rounds (OG, RB, S, TE etc), but most likely projects at LT, QB, WR.

K Major 01-30-2024 03:56 PM

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Senior Bowl participant - Olu Fashanu - OT Penn State

Big 10 offensive lineman of the Year, doesn't give up sacks.

"Experts" predict he will become a quality LT at the next level.

K Major 01-30-2024 04:10 PM

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Fun fact : Isaiah Foskey, Trevor Penning, Payton Turner & Marcus Davenport were all past Senior bowl participants ...

Maybe we shouldn't look too hard at this one :rolleyes: ... jk, jk.
Starting around the 3:48 mark Jeff talks highly about Penning. He kinda of "hints" at possibly moving him INSIDE? IDK coach, this guy is borderline bust material.

This will be year #3.


AsylumGuido 01-30-2024 04:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 992225)
We better hit with both first and second round picks because we don't pick again until the fifth round. That's not counting late comp picks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 992227)
But we have four 5th round picks and two 6th round picks. You can still pick up quality players in the 5th and 6th rounds (OG, RB, S, TE etc), but most likely projects at LT, QB, WR.

There's nothing to stop us from moving up into the 3rd and/or 4th rounds if there's someone we really want. And not to mention, we have a full compliment of 2025 draft picks to play with, as well.

:D

neugey 01-30-2024 04:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 992234)
Fun fact : Isaiah Foskey, Trevor Penning, Payton Turner & Marcus Davenport were all past Senior bowl participants ...

Maybe we shouldn't look too hard at this one :rolleyes: ... jk, jk.
Starting around the 3:48 mark Jeff talks highly about Penning. He kinda of "hints" at possibly moving him INSIDE? IDK coach, this guy is borderline bust material.

This will be year #3.

Saints at Senior Bowl - YouTube


Mickey prepared kegs of kool-aid for the whole staff prior to the Mobile trip!


I do fear this team puts too much stock into the Senior Bowl and not enough into the player's full track record and college production. Gotta be careful with recency bias.

Sinner 01-30-2024 05:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by neugey (Post 992244)
Mickey prepared kegs of kool-aid for the whole staff prior to the Mobile trip!


I do fear this team puts too much stock into the Senior Bowl and not enough into the player's full track record and college production. Gotta be careful with recency bias.

Some of that Kool Aid is being piped into some fans’ water supplies.

K Major 01-30-2024 05:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by neugey (Post 992244)
Mickey prepared kegs of kool-aid for the whole staff prior to the Mobile trip!


I do fear this team puts too much stock into the Senior Bowl and not enough into the player's full track record and college production. Gotta be careful with recency bias.

Or find better scouts.

Penning & Turner are starting to look like colossal “misses”.

Old roster, BAD HC & cap issues. You better hit on the 2024 draft.

SmashMouth 01-30-2024 10:09 PM

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saintsfan1976 01-31-2024 07:15 AM

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9 draft picks.
4 in the 5th round.
We could come away with at least 4of the top 150 players in college.

K Major 01-31-2024 04:27 PM

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Oregon St lineman - Fuaga... projected to be a Day 1 starter at the next level. Not saying this is the Saints guy in rd 1, but I hope they are targeting big ole uglies.


K Major 01-31-2024 04:33 PM

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From what I've been reading, there are quite a few impressive tackles in this draft class.

Penning is still a huge question mark (maybe he moves inside to G) and no one knows if Ramz will return in 2024. His knee will not get any better with time.

More big uglies please.

AsylumGuido 02-01-2024 10:08 AM

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K Major 02-01-2024 01:38 PM

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DE - Darius Robinson
Missou

Long arms, tall (6’5), rangy. 1st team All SEC.

His stock seems to be rising. Check him out at the Senior bowl.


K Major 02-02-2024 12:11 PM

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K Major 02-02-2024 12:15 PM

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Roger Rosengarten - OL (right tackle)
Washington

Mid round grades. Good lateral movement & hand strength.

Coaching up, he could become a solid lineman for years at the next level.



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