Disappointed but not Discouraged

Boston Saint · 01-24-2024, 03:20 PM

I think I’m willing to look at shortcomings the team may/do have. I realize I’m not making my living with anything remotely related to the NFL,
So I am no “expert”.

That being said, it seems to me that this is an incredibly hard league to win in. Look at a few teams and their end of the year for example.

Buffalo. Good QB. Has been solid in the regular season. Won a few playoff games. But they folded again and it brings back memories of the Jim Kelly Bills and a team that NEVER got over the hump.

Philly. Another team who seemed to have it going with a talented young QB. But they folded down the stretch again, and could not get the final job done. whether or not they will stay. Competitive time will tell.

Minnesota. A team that is beat us multiple times in the playoffs. But they are looking at possibly resigning Kurt cousins or rebuilding, and looking for another quarterback, to start the franchise with

This is just a couple of examples. I live up here where New England has just had two terrible seasons in a row, and I wondering where they are going to go from here as a franchise. One of my best friends is a Jets fan and he had to watch the Aaron Rodgers experiment blew up in his face.

The remaining teams have had seasons of four or less wins, which gave them chances to restock their roster. The biggest problem I see with the Saints is the draft picks. We’ve made on both sides of the line of scrimmage have not panned out especially early pics.

Dennis Allen might not be the guy. He’s probably not. But if the definition of “the guy” is winning a Super Bowl, then practically no other coach in the league is going to be the guy. Dennis Allen had the same number or more wins than Sean, Payton and Bill Belichick this year. Does that mean he’s a better coach than them? Of course not. But a lot of teams are in a lot worse shape.

AsylumGuido · 01-24-2024, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I think I’m willing to look at shortcomings the team may/do have. I realize I’m not making my living with anything remotely related to the NFL,
So I am no “expert”.

That being said, it seems to me that this is an incredibly hard league to win in. Look at a few teams and their end of the year for example.

Buffalo. Good QB. Has been solid in the regular season. Won a few playoff games. But they folded again and it brings back memories of the Jim Kelly Bills and a team that NEVER got over the hump.

Philly. Another team who seemed to have it going with a talented young QB. But they folded down the stretch again, and could not get the final job done. whether or not they will stay. Competitive time will tell.

Minnesota. A team that is beat us multiple times in the playoffs. But they are looking at possibly resigning Kurt cousins or rebuilding, and looking for another quarterback, to start the franchise with

This is just a couple of examples. I live up here where New England has just had two terrible seasons in a row, and I wondering where they are going to go from here as a franchise. One of my best friends is a Jets fan and he had to watch the Aaron Rodgers experiment blew up in his face.

The remaining teams have had seasons of four or less wins, which gave them chances to restock their roster. The biggest problem I see with the Saints is the draft picks. We’ve made on both sides of the line of scrimmage have not panned out especially early pics.

Dennis Allen might not be the guy. He’s probably not. But if the definition of “the guy” is winning a Super Bowl, then practically no other coach in the league is going to be the guy. Dennis Allen had the same number or more wins than Sean, Payton and Bill Belichick this year. Does that mean he’s a better coach than them? Of course not. But a lot of teams are in a lot worse shape.

Yup. That grass is always greener on that other side of the fence.

Sinner · 01-24-2024, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yup. That grass is always greener on that other side of the fence.

Maybe maybe not, but sure AINT green on this side of the fence.

Rugby Saint II · 01-25-2024, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

Maybe maybe not, but sure AINT green on this side of the fence.

It's not green right now but we are in deep winter and heavy snow is covering the ground. Hang in there. Spring growth is coming in the form of a new OC.

Sinner · 01-25-2024, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

It's not green right now but we are in deep winter and heavy snow is covering the ground. Hang in there. Spring growth is coming in the form of a new OC.

That’s funny right there ^^^

AsylumGuido · 01-25-2024, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

It's not green right now but we are in deep winter and heavy snow is covering the ground. Hang in there. Spring growth is coming in the form of a new OC.

I'll guarantee you that several other fanbases would rather be in our shoes right now and they wouldn't be off base.

Mr.Riaton · 01-24-2024, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

I think I’m willing to look at shortcomings the team may/do have. I realize I’m not making my living with anything remotely related to the NFL,
So I am no “expert”.

That being said, it seems to me that this is an incredibly hard league to win in. Look at a few teams and their end of the year for example.

Buffalo. Good QB. Has been solid in the regular season. Won a few playoff games. But they folded again and it brings back memories of the Jim Kelly Bills and a team that NEVER got over the hump.

Philly. Another team who seemed to have it going with a talented young QB. But they folded down the stretch again, and could not get the final job done. whether or not they will stay. Competitive time will tell.

Minnesota. A team that is beat us multiple times in the playoffs. But they are looking at possibly resigning Kurt cousins or rebuilding, and looking for another quarterback, to start the franchise with

This is just a couple of examples. I live up here where New England has just had two terrible seasons in a row, and I wondering where they are going to go from here as a franchise. One of my best friends is a Jets fan and he had to watch the Aaron Rodgers experiment blew up in his face.

The remaining teams have had seasons of four or less wins, which gave them chances to restock their roster. The biggest problem I see with the Saints is the draft picks. We’ve made on both sides of the line of scrimmage have not panned out especially early pics.

Dennis Allen might not be the guy. He’s probably not. But if the definition of “the guy” is winning a Super Bowl, then practically no other coach in the league is going to be the guy. Dennis Allen had the same number or more wins than Sean, Payton and Bill Belichick this year. Does that mean he’s a better coach than them? Of course not. But a lot of teams are in a lot worse shape.

You make some good points, and I have to admit, it could be worse. But I also think it could be a hell of a lot better too, especially where this franchise in two years after Sean left…quite a decline. I feel like we’re in better shape roster wise than what Sean and Bill had to work with this past season also.

To me, “our guy” is a leader of men who commands respect and players want to run through brick walls for. When the players chose to override Allen on that last play against the Falcons, that sealed the deal for me on him ever being our guy. I’m convinced he’s just not head Coach material, and that’s ok…plenty of really good OCs and DCs have tried and failed. I think two main reasons he even hit nine wins is because of a strong roster combined with a weak schedule. If I’m not mistaken, we only beat sub .500 teams…or maybe one barely above .500. Sorry, not impressed.
Could a really good OC come in and turn things around? Maybe. Definitely not out of the realm of possibilities. But I’m still not big on Allen being “our guy” even if so

01-24-2024, 03:20 PM	#1
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Disappointed but not Discouraged I think I’m willing to look at shortcomings the team may/do have. I realize I’m not making my living with anything remotely related to the NFL, So I am no “expert”. That being said, it seems to me that this is an incredibly hard league to win in. Look at a few teams and their end of the year for example. Buffalo. Good QB. Has been solid in the regular season. Won a few playoff games. But they folded again and it brings back memories of the Jim Kelly Bills and a team that NEVER got over the hump. Philly. Another team who seemed to have it going with a talented young QB. But they folded down the stretch again, and could not get the final job done. whether or not they will stay. Competitive time will tell. Minnesota. A team that is beat us multiple times in the playoffs. But they are looking at possibly resigning Kurt cousins or rebuilding, and looking for another quarterback, to start the franchise with This is just a couple of examples. I live up here where New England has just had two terrible seasons in a row, and I wondering where they are going to go from here as a franchise. One of my best friends is a Jets fan and he had to watch the Aaron Rodgers experiment blew up in his face. The remaining teams have had seasons of four or less wins, which gave them chances to restock their roster. The biggest problem I see with the Saints is the draft picks. We’ve made on both sides of the line of scrimmage have not panned out especially early pics. Dennis Allen might not be the guy. He’s probably not. But if the definition of “the guy” is winning a Super Bowl, then practically no other coach in the league is going to be the guy. Dennis Allen had the same number or more wins than Sean, Payton and Bill Belichick this year. Does that mean he’s a better coach than them? Of course not. But a lot of teams are in a lot worse shape. AsylumGuido likes this.
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01-24-2024, 03:42 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,489	Re: Disappointed but not Discouraged Originally Posted by Boston Saint I think I’m willing to look at shortcomings the team may/do have. I realize I’m not making my living with anything remotely related to the NFL, So I am no “expert”. That being said, it seems to me that this is an incredibly hard league to win in. Look at a few teams and their end of the year for example. Buffalo. Good QB. Has been solid in the regular season. Won a few playoff games. But they folded again and it brings back memories of the Jim Kelly Bills and a team that NEVER got over the hump. Philly. Another team who seemed to have it going with a talented young QB. But they folded down the stretch again, and could not get the final job done. whether or not they will stay. Competitive time will tell. Minnesota. A team that is beat us multiple times in the playoffs. But they are looking at possibly resigning Kurt cousins or rebuilding, and looking for another quarterback, to start the franchise with This is just a couple of examples. I live up here where New England has just had two terrible seasons in a row, and I wondering where they are going to go from here as a franchise. One of my best friends is a Jets fan and he had to watch the Aaron Rodgers experiment blew up in his face. The remaining teams have had seasons of four or less wins, which gave them chances to restock their roster. The biggest problem I see with the Saints is the draft picks. We’ve made on both sides of the line of scrimmage have not panned out especially early pics. Dennis Allen might not be the guy. He’s probably not. But if the definition of “the guy” is winning a Super Bowl, then practically no other coach in the league is going to be the guy. Dennis Allen had the same number or more wins than Sean, Payton and Bill Belichick this year. Does that mean he’s a better coach than them? Of course not. But a lot of teams are in a lot worse shape. Yup. That grass is always greener on that other side of the fence.

01-24-2024, 04:37 PM	#3
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,046	Re: Disappointed but not Discouraged Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yup. That grass is always greener on that other side of the fence. Maybe maybe not, but sure AINT green on this side of the fence. K Major likes this.
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01-25-2024, 02:12 PM	#4
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,119	Re: Disappointed but not Discouraged Originally Posted by Sinner Maybe maybe not, but sure AINT green on this side of the fence. It's not green right now but we are in deep winter and heavy snow is covering the ground. Hang in there. Spring growth is coming in the form of a new OC.

01-25-2024, 03:16 PM	#5
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,046	Re: Disappointed but not Discouraged Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II It's not green right now but we are in deep winter and heavy snow is covering the ground. Hang in there. Spring growth is coming in the form of a new OC. That’s funny right there ^^^
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01-25-2024, 04:00 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,489	Re: Disappointed but not Discouraged Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II It's not green right now but we are in deep winter and heavy snow is covering the ground. Hang in there. Spring growth is coming in the form of a new OC. I'll guarantee you that several other fanbases would rather be in our shoes right now and they wouldn't be off base.

01-24-2024, 04:37 PM	#7
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,290	Re: Disappointed but not Discouraged Originally Posted by Boston Saint I think I’m willing to look at shortcomings the team may/do have. I realize I’m not making my living with anything remotely related to the NFL, So I am no “expert”. That being said, it seems to me that this is an incredibly hard league to win in. Look at a few teams and their end of the year for example. Buffalo. Good QB. Has been solid in the regular season. Won a few playoff games. But they folded again and it brings back memories of the Jim Kelly Bills and a team that NEVER got over the hump. Philly. Another team who seemed to have it going with a talented young QB. But they folded down the stretch again, and could not get the final job done. whether or not they will stay. Competitive time will tell. Minnesota. A team that is beat us multiple times in the playoffs. But they are looking at possibly resigning Kurt cousins or rebuilding, and looking for another quarterback, to start the franchise with This is just a couple of examples. I live up here where New England has just had two terrible seasons in a row, and I wondering where they are going to go from here as a franchise. One of my best friends is a Jets fan and he had to watch the Aaron Rodgers experiment blew up in his face. The remaining teams have had seasons of four or less wins, which gave them chances to restock their roster. The biggest problem I see with the Saints is the draft picks. We’ve made on both sides of the line of scrimmage have not panned out especially early pics. Dennis Allen might not be the guy. He’s probably not. But if the definition of “the guy” is winning a Super Bowl, then practically no other coach in the league is going to be the guy. Dennis Allen had the same number or more wins than Sean, Payton and Bill Belichick this year. Does that mean he’s a better coach than them? Of course not. But a lot of teams are in a lot worse shape. You make some good points, and I have to admit, it could be worse. But I also think it could be a hell of a lot better too, especially where this franchise in two years after Sean left…quite a decline. I feel like we’re in better shape roster wise than what Sean and Bill had to work with this past season also. To me, “our guy” is a leader of men who commands respect and players want to run through brick walls for. When the players chose to override Allen on that last play against the Falcons, that sealed the deal for me on him ever being our guy. I’m convinced he’s just not head Coach material, and that’s ok…plenty of really good OCs and DCs have tried and failed. I think two main reasons he even hit nine wins is because of a strong roster combined with a weak schedule. If I’m not mistaken, we only beat sub .500 teams…or maybe one barely above .500. Sorry, not impressed. Could a really good OC come in and turn things around? Maybe. Definitely not out of the realm of possibilities. But I’m still not big on Allen being “our guy” even if so