Saints Musts, Needs, and Wants for 2024 Season
 

Good article here by SI's John Sigler.

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A legit NT. A swing OT/OG. A TE capable of blocking and catching. A MLB. Smith isn't getting any younger. A DE capable of playing the run and pass. Jordan isn't getting any younger. A miracle from the Good Lord. :)

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The miracle from the good lord would be an entire new front office, including a new Head Coach, for starters… but the good lord is busy with other teams.

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A front office and scouting team that can actually scout 1st round DE talent

To convert the least amount of vets as possible to get under the cap

Not to splurge what cap they have with more back end contracts

Get younger

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Exactly.

I would say.

Must: General Manager, Head Coach, Offensive Tackle
Need: Left Guard, DE, Scouts.
Want: QB, Slot Corner.

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Lady Who Dat, a semi-regular, called into Moving the Chains yesterday on NFL Radio and was asked by both Jim Miller and Pat Kirwan about the Saints fans in New Orleans and how they felt about Saints management. She said that they were vocally against both Allen and Carmichael, especially during the games. She said she's heard a few criticize Loomis, but that she loved him. They then went on to say they couldn't understand any criticism of Loomis and said he's he clearly one of the very best GM's in the league today. They said his ability to keep a competitive product on the field for two decades is virtually unmatched elsewhere in the NFL.

I've got to say I agree completely.

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My morning coffee just came through my nostrils. Lil bit…

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I can appreciate the article. Instead of beating the dead horse over and over, it's looking for player personnel solutions that can help us improve for next season. We need to come to grasp with the reality that Loomis and Allen will be here next season.

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I fully expect the horse beaters to keep it up, papz, especially around here. :p Without that they wouldn't have anything to post. :D Like you said, most reasonable folks would recognize what is is and deal with it and move on. And, yes, that's what I liked about the article, too. It dealt with those musts, needs, and wants and viable options to deal with each. I don't always agree with all of Sigler's stuff, but he's one of the best writers out there covering the Saints, these days.

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See…the horse ain’t dead yet. That’s why we’re still beating it.

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There's no horse left it's been beaten so much.

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The same horse will be back next season.

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Must: OT, P
Need: OG, DT, LB, S (or bring back Abram)
Want: K (Reichard), RB, QB (only if it's an absolute draft bargain), TE (only if Bowers falls in rd1 or we could get Texas Sanders in round 2)

Find cheap:
DE/edge (good history here with Gallete, Hendrickson, Granderson)
WR (will be crazy depth in late rounds, UDFA)

Thoughts:
Give Haener a few seasons at QB2 if we don't draft a QB. Need to show some confidence in him and let him sink or swim else we're just wasting the picks used to get him.

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Matt Araiza deserves another shot. He's an absolute weapon on special teams.

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If the Saints really intend on moving Lattimore, the first call I would make is to Chicago. Offer Lattimore and a 2nd round pick for Justin Fields. Fields still has a year left on his rookie deal, plus the 5th year option can be picked up. If he pans out then great, if not then no big deal.

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When your toilet is clogged and the landlord is not going to send a plumber as quickly as your like, coming to grasps with it does not require pretending it doesnt stink or agreeing with the landlords delays.

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They wont due it because it would admit defeat on Carr. They shouldnt do it because we dont have the oline or offensive coaching to give Field a fair shot, we cant initially start him, and if we turn to him later in the year and he plays well he will be expensive and high injury risk. Expensive used running qb is a terrible investment and we could not be ready to compete while he is still on a cheap deal.

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Musts: OT(2), OG, and a DT to pair with Bresee

Needs: RB, TE, and slot CB

Wants: Safety, LB, WR, DE, and punter.

I like our Aussie punter! There are a lot of schools teaching the rugby kick because it is so difficult to field cleanly because of the way the ball spins. This kicking style has heavily limited the punt return yards and pins the opponents inside the twenty on a regular basis. One thing about Lou Hedley is that he doesn't outkick his coverage unit. He is at the bottom of the league for yards per punts though, and I could see another Aussie kicker brought into compete this offseason.

I also wonder how many of Grupe's kicks were missed because of the holder not getting the placement right? I seriously doubt that Hedley is a very experienced holder and it could factor in to the misses.

Incidentally, rugby players only hold for a kick at goal when the wind won't allow for a clean approach to the ball. USA rugby allowed it even before we introduced the kicking tee in the late 1950's. We could also use sand, saw dust, or dirt to prepare for the kick at goal. You also see a lot of drop kicks at goal which is a dynamic play to watch because they can happen from anywhere at the field.

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I guess your toilet remains perpetually clogged given your level of discontent. Maybe it's time for you to move to a different house if you hate the one you are in so much. I have heard there are 31 others that have some vacancies.

As for myself, my toilet is operating quite well, thank you.

But, then again, perhaps the problem is that you are dropping so much crap that there isn't any plumbing system on Earth that can satisfy your personal needs. Ever consider changing your diet?

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Failed to make the playoffs 7 in last 12 season

5 losing seasons in 12

Only 4 of the last 12 season has the team gained double digit wins.

The draft classes outside of maybe one or two have been average at best.

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And all of that is better than almost every other franchise in the league over the same stretch of time.

It's that grass is greener syndrome. Most other franchise's fans would love to have had teams as competitive as ours to watch over the past two decades. I know for a fact they're the best twenty years I've seen as a whole than any of the other years of our existence. And I have been here living them since 1967.

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Has Mickey Loomis ever considered cutting back on the booze? I will be content when he checks into Betty Ford and out of Airline Drive.

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Maybe you two could share a room in some psychiatric facility. That would actually be funny. The one thing in the entire world that appears to totally envelope your consciousness being right there in the bed next to you. Do you have dreams about Mickey? The way every thread in the joint gets twisted into a forum for your hatred of the man is incredible. I can't see how he wouldn't live in your head even in your sleep. God I hope he's our GM forever.

:D

:bng:

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If the chance arises I would love to see us select LB Payton Wilson out of NCSU, the winner of this year's Chuck Bednarik award as the nation's best defensive player. Demario may only have three or four more years before he decides to hang them up and Wilson is the type of player that could take over those duties as a leader.

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:rofl: lady who dat :rofl: here is more **** for you quido, a little appetizer.

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Is Lady Who Dat an alias for Gayle Benson or is it Mickey Loomis’ username on grinder?

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I’ve never heard of Grinder until now.
I wish I still didn’t know.

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Me neither.

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That Bakosaint still in your head I see lmfao!!
That ignore function is a b**ch, isn’t it lmao!
You’re a fraud

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Haters gonna' hate! The hate is strong in this one! I just can't imagine going through life being so miserable all the time like Bako does!

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I know. It's sad, isn't it?

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I think that it starts in the trenches and radiates outward.
The Saints must work on the lines first-especially O-line. They need LB's and WR's--If Marshon leaves like most of us assume then CB becomes more of a "must" than a "need". Kamara is in his prime but that window is about to close so the Saints should keep the offensive backfield in mind over the offseason.
I'm one of the few fans that doesn't consider Carr to be a terrible QB. The right leadership could benefit him. That said, if the Saints picked a QB early in the next draft I wouldn't be surprised.

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There are probably a lot more than you realize out here, ice, on Carr. Agree with everything else you mentioned, too, by the way.

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Accepting Carr, just like accepting Dennis Allen, just like accepting barely being a mediocre team that is “competitive” against teams that $uck @ss less than we do, is EXACTLY what enables this front office to “just keep doing what they’re doing”, year after mediocre year. See y’all next year.

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I understand your frustration, many if not most of us are, but the reality of it is, it ain't gonna change any time soon. And until something in management changes soon, it may be a long while. If *****ing and trolling quido helps you sleep at night then so be it, and while it's bothersome to must of us, It's your prerogative and I support that. And just because most of us don't comment negatively whenever we are angry does not mean we don't care....because we do.

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Thank you for your salient points, and for supporting my prerogative.

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I’m sitting at my dinner table, the most truthful place in all American households.

We’re going to be a garbage team until DENNIS ALLEN is no longer the head coach.
I think Derek Carr can be a top 10 QB when healthy, has the right OC and the right coach.
Maybe. Because he looked like horse$4!T most of the season.

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Oh! Wow. That sinner guy is still trolling? Go figure. If it's all he has to live for, so be it. LOL!

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People who think my hate for Loomis absorbs my life know nothing else about my life. Everyone is allowed to hate one or two public figures and there is nothing wrong with blowing off steam. I also enjoy family time, good food, various tv shows, travel, and have a good career. But Mickey Loomis is a **** GM.

A concern I have with Derek Carr is that although his overall stats may be average to slightly above average they came against weak opponents and he seems to pad them when his team no longer controls its own destiny and the pressure is off to some degree because if they lose it may not have mattered anyway and expectations are lower. When Carr heated up in the final games the Saints also had among the easiest schedules in that stretch. Also he has never won a playoff game, and has rarely gotten it done in the key games needed to get to the playoffs. My fear is that if we built the team around him to get him home field in the playoffs, it would be like bringing Matt Ryan to the playoffs. I also dont feel bad criticizing him and potentially undermining his confidence thiugh because I noticed he played better this season after getting booed at home and called out by analysts. Maybe if none of us believed in him he could finally suceed.

I dont think corner is a too need even if Lattimore departs. I believe Adebo and Taylor are starting edge corners in this league and Yiadom is a starter or top backup. We have had success finding good young secondary in the second round or later in the draft if needed and would be wise to keep doing that and not waste big free agent dollars or our 1st round pick there. Remember, we went on a winning streak with Lattimore hurt. Thomas too.

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Triplett makes sense here. We all know we need help on both lines, but as he mentions, we all also know it takes some time for almost all linemen, especially offensive, to adjust to the NFL game.