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leilung 04-04-2024 10:16 AM
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In reference to elevating Penning's skill set, is there any coach that comes to mind that's sort of a G/T whisperer?

Danno 04-04-2024 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by leilung (Post 995019)
In reference to elevating Penning's skill set, is there any coach that comes to mind that's sort of a G/T whisperer?
He's a strange situation. All of his measurables showed he should be a solid plug and play LT.

The skills and athleticism is there. It just hasn't clicked for him yet. Hopefully a new O-line coach can find the right buttons to push.

rezburna 04-04-2024 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by leilung (Post 995019)
In reference to elevating Penning's skill set, is there any coach that comes to mind that's sort of a G/T whisperer?
I have a feeling it’s going to click for him. I’d put him on the right side though.

saintsfan1976 04-04-2024 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by leilung (Post 995019)
In reference to elevating Penning's skill set, is there any coach that comes to mind that's sort of a G/T whisperer?
I was reading about Doug Marrone's coaching style being described as very "old school".

He'd shout and cuss you to the point of demoralization if you made mistakes or weren't meeting his standards.

Could a new approach in coaching help him? Not sure as there seemed to plenty of poor technique on film.

I will say this - the old school way of coaching seems to be less effective today. Coaches who can connect with players on a deeper level seem to be getting the best from their guys.

saintsfan1976 04-04-2024 10:40 AM
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Found this and it's spot on with what we've seen on the field:

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/t...g-report-2022/

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Penning’s base isn’t always steady when anchored. He can lose his balance against longer opponents. He also fails to maintain his balance through offensive maneuvers at times. This can impact his ability to sustain blocks at the second level. Moreover, he can work to better counteract force with his feet. His feet sometimes stop moving, and once that happens, he can easily be worked around or worked into with power.

As good as Penning’s center of gravity is, he does play a bit lopsided at times. His extension timing could be better, and Penning also plays too tall too often. While he has decent knee bend capacity, he sometimes bends at the waist and struggles to attain proper leverage. Rushers can easily get under him and force him to lurch.

Going further, Penning can absorb power, but he doesn’t always sustain blocks when he can’t make first contact. Penning’s grip strength — while solid — can be broken with forceful moves, and he keeps his hands too wide, opening up his torso. Additionally, there is some stiffness present when he needs to recover laterally. His feet are a bit heavy at times, although he generally moves well.

Among other notes, Penning’s hand precision still has some room for improvement, and his hands and feet can have better synergy. Penning can be grabby and penalty-prone when he loses leverage, and he sometimes goes too far with his nasty attitude after the snap.

K Major 04-04-2024 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 995022)
I was reading about Doug Marrone's coaching style being described as very "old school".

He'd shout and cuss you to the point of demoralization if you made mistakes or weren't meeting his standards.

Could a new approach in coaching help him? Not sure as there seemed to plenty of poor technique on film.

I will say this - the old school way of coaching seems to be less effective today. Coaches who can connect with players on a deeper level seem to be getting the best from their guys.

K Major 04-04-2024 11:13 AM
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I'd still like to address the oline in Free Agency.

Dalton Risner comes to mind or Mekhi Bekton (former Jet).

Or bring back Andrus Peat. He was kicked out to LT last season and played decent.

BakoSaint 04-04-2024 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 995020)
He's a strange situation. All of his measurables showed he should be a solid plug and play LT.

The skills and athleticism is there. It just hasn't clicked for him yet. Hopefully a new O-line coach can find the right buttons to push.
If we feel better about our QB coach than our oline coach perhaps we should swap Penning for Zach Wilson. It seems like they are in similar positions needing similar breakthroughs to click.

AsylumGuido 04-04-2024 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 995033)
If we feel better about our QB coach than our oline coach perhaps we should swap Penning for Zach Wilson. It seems like they are in similar positions needing similar breakthroughs to click.
Our o-line coach, John Benton, is new to us this season. Our new senior assistant, Rick Dennison, has a reputation of developing offensive linemen sending six to the Pro Bowl as an o-line coach and offensive coordinator. He's also spent four years with Kubiak so he knows what Kubiak is looking to get out of his linemen in this offense. I'm excited at what we could see this season. We may have more already on hand than some believe.

K Major 04-04-2024 05:27 PM
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Fuaga
Fashauna
Powers-Johnson
Latham
Mims
Fatanu
Guyton
Morgan

There is a good chance 95% of the guys listed here will be available @ #14. Most are projected as Day 1 starters.

The OL talent pool is deep in 2024.


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