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saintsfan1976 01-31-2024 07:19 AM

Official 2024 Saints Draft Discussion
 
As it stands currently.

9 picks:


1 14

2 45 (from DEN)

5 148

5 166 (Comp)

5 168 (Comp)

5 173 (Comp)

6 191

6 200 from PHI

7 229

papz 01-31-2024 07:49 AM

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We'll likely trade up and get a 3rd or 4th somehow. We should definitely go heavy on both sides of the interior line with those middle round picks.

SmashMouth 01-31-2024 09:48 AM

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We might get more comps/picks after the exodus... this means trades too.

K Major 01-31-2024 09:55 AM

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Taliese Fuaga (OT) ... take a closer look at him.

Did not allow a sack in 2023 & is above average in run blocking + he performed well in a very competitive Pac 12 conference.

For a man of his size, he has great movement.

Danno 01-31-2024 10:07 AM

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I'd love to see Bama's OLB/DE Dallas Turner come here, much to LSU fans' dislike.

papz 01-31-2024 11:09 AM

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I welcome all good players regardless of my college devotion. He would be a good addition here. Everyone should be on board with an explosive edge player that can get to the quarterback.

Danno 01-31-2024 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 992309)
We might get more comps/picks after the exodus... this means trades too.

I believe all of 2024 comp picks are final. We'd get 2025 comp picks now.

saintsfan1976 02-17-2024 07:39 AM

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saintsfan1976 02-17-2024 07:42 AM

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Saints trade down, draft QB of the future and one of his receivers in 2024 mock draft

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...ft/ar-BB1ip0ji


After moving back to No. 18, the Saints selected Texas defensive tackle Byron Murphy II, of whom Carpentier writes: "Murphy and his college teammate T’Vondre Sweat combined for a 34.9% Win Rate and 76 pressures, numbers that compare to the 2018 Clemson Interior duo of Christian Wilkins and Dexter Lawrence (29.7% Win Rate and 67 pressures)."

Murphy would bring a formidable presence to the Saints defensive line. Pairing him with Bryan Bresee could give New Orleans a dominant pair of interior linemen and improve on their run defense, which ranked 11th-worst in rushing yards per carry and per game allowed last season. But what about their other picks?

That's where this mock draft gets interesting. Carpentier has the Saints spending their second-round choice (at No. 45, coming from the Denver Broncos) on a possible quarterback of the future: Washington's Michael Penix Jr. He's one of the most exciting prospects in this draft class after leading the Huskies to a national title bid. Penix struggled to elevate his draft stock at Senior Bowl practices earlier this month, but he's known as a gamer and should develop into a fine pro. Even if the Saints are committed to starting Derek Carr in 2024, it would be worth investing in a long-term answer at the position.

And as for that third-round pick coming f rom the Bengals (at No. 80): it's used on one of Penix's receivers at Washington, Ja'Lynn Polk. Polk is an impressive NFL prospect in his own right -- he averaged 5.2 yard after the catch per reception in his college career (a full yard better than Chris Olave and a yard-and-a-half more than Rashid Shaheed last year) while consistently winning on 50/50 balls. He plays with a lot of physicality and could add a new dimension to the offense. Having familiarity with his quarterback would certainly help.


Danno 02-17-2024 08:36 AM

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Penix dropping to 45? I don't see that happening at all

Mr.Riaton 02-17-2024 09:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 993271)
Saints trade down, draft QB of the future and one of his receivers in 2024 mock draft

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...ft/ar-BB1ip0ji


After moving back to No. 18, the Saints selected Texas defensive tackle Byron Murphy II, of whom Carpentier writes: "Murphy and his college teammate T’Vondre Sweat combined for a 34.9% Win Rate and 76 pressures, numbers that compare to the 2018 Clemson Interior duo of Christian Wilkins and Dexter Lawrence (29.7% Win Rate and 67 pressures)."

Murphy would bring a formidable presence to the Saints defensive line. Pairing him with Bryan Bresee could give New Orleans a dominant pair of interior linemen and improve on their run defense, which ranked 11th-worst in rushing yards per carry and per game allowed last season. But what about their other picks?

That's where this mock draft gets interesting. Carpentier has the Saints spending their second-round choice (at No. 45, coming from the Denver Broncos) on a possible quarterback of the future: Washington's Michael Penix Jr. He's one of the most exciting prospects in this draft class after leading the Huskies to a national title bid. Penix struggled to elevate his draft stock at Senior Bowl practices earlier this month, but he's known as a gamer and should develop into a fine pro. Even if the Saints are committed to starting Derek Carr in 2024, it would be worth investing in a long-term answer at the position.

And as for that third-round pick coming f rom the Bengals (at No. 80): it's used on one of Penix's receivers at Washington, Ja'Lynn Polk. Polk is an impressive NFL prospect in his own right -- he averaged 5.2 yard after the catch per reception in his college career (a full yard better than Chris Olave and a yard-and-a-half more than Rashid Shaheed last year) while consistently winning on 50/50 balls. He plays with a lot of physicality and could add a new dimension to the offense. Having familiarity with his quarterback would certainly help.


I like the idea of trading down a few spots if available and grabbing a third as well. I don’t like the idea of drafting a qb this year though.
I’d like a heavy draft on OL and DL with the exception of a LB as well.
I don’t expect a lot from our picks right away, but I think we’ll be in a good position in a couple years being we have young receivers, young secondary, and a promising young RB.

Mr.Riaton 02-17-2024 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 992315)
I'd love to see Bama's OLB/DE Dallas Turner come here, much to LSU fans' dislike.

LSU fan here and I wouldn’t be mad about this at all! Dude is a beast

K Major 02-17-2024 10:43 AM

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Most "experts" don't believe there is a Will Anderson in this year's draft however the next best thing could be DE Jared Verse (FSU).

At pick #14, he could be the best EDGE RUSHER still left on the board.

As Rez pointed out, I wouldn't be mad if he's the selection. We need more edge rushers.

AsylumGuido 02-20-2024 04:34 PM

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Sinner 02-20-2024 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 993368)

You still yapping… I’m still yawning…

AsylumGuido 02-20-2024 06:27 PM

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saintsfan1976 02-20-2024 06:54 PM

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#14 Taliese Fuaga to be the G or RT ideal for Kubiak's run game

#45 Egerrin Cooper the speedy LB of the future who can cover receivers and TEs

TRADE ALERT:

#61 from the Detroit Lions. Malachi Corley to be our Debo Samuel

K Major 02-20-2024 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 993372)
#14 Taliese Fuaga to be the G or RT ideal for Kubiak's run game

#45 Egerrin Cooper the speedy LB of the future who can cover receivers and TEs

TRADE ALERT:

#61 from the Detroit Lions. Malachi Corley to be our Debo Samuel

Agree here but I think Fuaga will be long gone by pick #14.

AsylumGuido 02-21-2024 08:15 AM

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AsylumGuido 02-22-2024 05:26 PM

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saintsfan1976 02-24-2024 07:11 AM

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Latu has medical concerns. Not "totally different"...

AsylumGuido 02-25-2024 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 993489)
Latu has medical concerns. Not "totally different"...

Not sure what to think about him.


BakoSaint 02-25-2024 11:02 AM

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I am torn on the draft. I think we need oline more than pass rush. We have been horrible drafting pass rush. Oline is needed for our offense to reach its full potential, or at times for it even to function. Pass rush is needed for our defense to reach its full potential. But while oline would allow us to see Carr's best and pass rush would allow us to see our secondaries best, I have this feeling that our secondary's best could be more exciting than Carr's best. Probably either way we are a .500 type team at best if we hit on the pick and our aging players don't decline too badly, but perhaps if we had a great pass rush there is a small sliver of chance we could have a really special defense that could be the best in the league. I think it is impossible to have the best offense in the league with Carr. But on the other hand, oline could give us more stability to not get our QB killed when we face real elite defenses, and could be a better building block for the next 5 years. I don't know what is the right answer, perhaps best trenches player available.

leilung 02-25-2024 11:42 AM

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So, what position gets priority for the #14 pick this year guys? Is there an edge rusher DE or OLB? Or is Offense the priority in the 1st round?

AsylumGuido 02-25-2024 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by leilung (Post 993534)
So, what position gets priority for the #14 pick this year guys? Is there an edge rusher DE or OLB? Or is Offense the priority in the 1st round?

I think most of us think the priority is offensive line. I'm sure Kubiak will have some input, but Ireland is likely holding most of the cards. I'm just not sure an immediate impact lineman is going to be left at #14. I've heard as many as seven tackles could go in the first, but how many of those will be hitting the field soon is the question. Once again, we're remaining in a win now mode so that will probably be a big factor.

In other words, I have no clue and will anxiously await the actual draft.

:D

K Major 02-25-2024 01:19 PM

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DE, OL, WR, QB (Carr will never win big games).
Saints were near the bottom half in pass rush efficiency in 2023.

Dak, Mahomes, Hebert, Hurts, Love, Highland Park are all on the schedule and all will slice you up if they have time. Can’t expect the secondary to cover forever.

DE & OL are 1a & 1b for me in the upcoming draft.

leilung 02-25-2024 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 993535)
I think most of us think the priority is offensive line. I'm sure Kubiak will have some input, but Ireland is likely holding most of the cards. I'm just not sure an immediate impact lineman is going to be left at #14. I've heard as many as seven tackles could go in the first, but how many of those will be hitting the field soon is the question. Once again, we're remaining in a win now mode so that will probably be a big factor.

In other words, I have no clue and will anxiously await the actual draft.

:D

Can OL be addressed in the 2nd round?

AsylumGuido 02-25-2024 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by leilung (Post 993538)
Can OL be addressed in the 2nd round?

From what I have heard and read OL is deep in potential, but not in readiness. The state of the college game pretty much dictates that they are not being developed whether or not they have the ability.

Mr.Riaton 02-25-2024 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by leilung (Post 993538)
Can OL be addressed in the 2nd round?

It can be addressed in any round. Jahri Evans was drafted in the fourth and Carl nicks in the fith and contributed immediately in their rookie season.
The draft is pretty much a crap shoot.
That being said, if your drafted in the first or second round, I expect an impact immediately or within a few games. I know it’s not a guarantee , just my expectations

K Major 02-25-2024 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by leilung (Post 993538)
Can OL be addressed in the 2nd round?

Yes, of course.

See Erik McCoy. A quality NFL starter.

And started in all 16 games as a rookie :bng:.

AsylumGuido 02-25-2024 10:29 PM

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A growing theme.



AsylumGuido 02-26-2024 07:40 AM

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Another top prospect skipping the Underwear Olympics.


saintsfan1976 02-26-2024 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 993537)
DE, OL, WR, QB (Carr will never win big games).
Saints were near the bottom half in pass rush efficiency in 2023.

Dak, Mahomes, Hebert, Hurts, Love, Highland Park are all on the schedule and all will slice you up if they have time. Can’t expect the secondary to cover forever.

DE & OL are 1a & 1b for me in the upcoming draft.

What if the staff feels Foskey and Turner are healthy enough and ready?

Do you still spend another high draft pick on a DE?

stickman 02-26-2024 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 993545)

Not surprised by any of this. Hope other players realize this gives them a chance to impress at the combine since some top guys will not be taking part in any of the physical assessment.

BakoSaint 02-26-2024 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 993555)
What if the staff feels Foskey and Turner are healthy enough and ready?

Do you still spend another high draft pick on a DE?

The same staff thought Michael Thomas was healthy enough and ready the last 4 years. So if the right oline is not available and the right pass rusher is, and you can’t trade back, then yes. At this point anyone who pencils in Payton Turner as a definite contributor is a fool. He is in prove-it territory.

K Major 02-26-2024 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 993555)
What if the staff feels Foskey and Turner are healthy enough and ready?

Do you still spend another high draft pick on a DE?

Yes, I would.

Especially if a guy like Bama's Dallas Turner or Jared Verse is still on the board. We have to take advantage of potentially adding another speedy, athletic pass rusher. Personally I don't trust Payton Turner's health (played in 15 games in 3 seasons) & no clue what we have in Foskey.

Saints need more juice off the edge.

saintsfan1976 02-26-2024 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 993558)
The same staff thought Michael Thomas was healthy enough and ready the last 4 years. So if the right oline is not available and the right pass rusher is, and you can’t trade back, then yes. At this point anyone who pencils in Payton Turner as a definite contributor is a fool. He is in prove-it territory.

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 993559)
Yes, I would.

Especially if a guy like Bama's Dallas Turner or Jared Verse is still on the board. We have to take advantage of potentially adding another speedy, athletic pass rusher. Personally I don't trust Payton Turner's health (played in 15 games in 3 seasons) & no clue what we have in Foskey.

Saints need more juice off the edge.


Then I would argue we not DRAFT another DE. Unless the consensus "can't miss, day one impact" guy is there at 14, it may be smart to spend the money in FA on a proven player.

AsylumGuido 02-26-2024 03:20 PM

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Here's an interesting move. The more eyes the better.


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