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Kubiak is already filling out his coaching hires with coaches who know his system and how to install it properly. The Saints are looking at fielding a whole new staff on offense except for a couple of proven coaches. Everyone that was let go seems to have gone to a division rival. I don't know why our division rivals covet our players and coaches so highly since we haven't been very good for a few years now. :roll:

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And which of our division rivals has been any better than us over those last few years without a QB named Brady?

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Baker Mayfield’s Panties beat us 22-14 last September, but you were enjoying it too much to remember. Not to mention Sam Freakin Darnold…

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Its official according to Rap

https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/...226596779?s=46

The #Saints and #49ers passing game coordinator Klint Kubiak have reached a deal for Kubiak to be their new offensive coordinator, source says. The top target all along, Kubiak’s hire gives coach Dennis Allen a rising play-caller who was coveted by several other teams.

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Great, now let's get this offense together.

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Time will tell. all depends on how much medaling from Allen/Loomis. I understand their will be some, that just comes with the title of head coach and GM, but he needs to be able to fly as high as he can.

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Let's do that!:beatnik:

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It's official.

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I’d like to see Klint incorporate a 21 (1 TE/2 RB) personnel in N.O.

Not to mention he attacks the MIDDLE of the field. Really nice to see how well he developed Brock Purdy in such a short period of time. He needs a new nickname.. the kid is “relevant” & can ball.

As a side note, I hope guys like Feliciano (Oline) & Juane Johnson (WR) join Kubiak this off season. JJ had an impressive SB showing.

Saints desperately need new faces, dawgs, chain movers & contributors on offense.

As we saw last night, in order to contend for the ultimate prize we need more talent on both sides of the ball.

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He definitely will. We need to upgrade that FB position though. Maybe Juszcyk will follow him too.

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Kamara ... the most under utilized back in 2023.

Kubiak probably has a solid plan there as well.

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Unless Taysom becomes that role maybe?

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Taysom, Alvin, Olave, and Shaheed. Kubiak has some nice pieces to play with. I wonder if Kubiak worries about our O line as much as I do? I hope so!

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I'm hoping the new O like coach Kubiak is bringing in will sort the majority of that.

With the draft capital spent on the O line, they surely must be better than they've played. I have to believe that's been down to bad coaching.

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Man the hopium is strong with this one. Getting the ball out of Carr’s hands faster, does not equate to Dan Marino. He’ll be lucky to look as good (and as bad) as Jameis.

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I know Jameis will be out by March. That being said, I know we have to address the back up QB position. I'm not sure who is out there. I don't think it is wise to roll with Jake H as QB #2.

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"Pretty Boy" Haener will be fine. He just needs time under center. Kubiak will see him as a Purdy clone.

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This is a good listen (41 minutes) if you have the time ...

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I don't think we have a need at backup QB. I expect Winston to move on given the conflict with the head coach but if he stays for cheap thats fine too, I think he is a motivator in the locker room who adds value off the field.

But if Winston goes I think we are fine with Haener. Realistically Haener is probably not Brock Purdy, and its a big fallacy to label him as such, because many late round picks have similar tangible attributes as each other, but few succeed. Brock Purdy is a lottery ticket that won, Jake Haener is a lottery ticket that hasn't been scratched off. If your neighbor won the lottery, your ticket from the same convenience store with the logos probably did not win. The logic that says because Brock Purdy has been successful, and Jake Haener was drafted a couple rounds earlier the next year he is the next Brock Purdy, would also have dictated that Chris Weinke, Sage Rosenfels, and Jesse Palmer would all be the next Tom Brady. Ironically, at 2-18 Chris Weinke is arguably the WOAT at QB.

None the less we have to play Haener at some point to find out what he is. And if he sucks, the consolation prize is a higher draft pick. We are not the 85 Bears defense who just needs an ok QB to win it all, we are not going to win a Super Bowl if we bring in Joe Flacco to invest in a quality backup. We probably are not going to win much with Carr, so lottery tickets are a great backup option for us not steady veteran backups. If the lottery ticket pays off we solve our QB problem. If they dont, the draft solves it the next year. If we want competition at backup QB our best option would be to draft another lottery ticket in the mid to late rounds.

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First of all, I believe you are making far too much about anything between Allen and Winston. Just because you are incapable of letting something go doesn't mean that everyone else is cursed with that weakness. Both gentlemen are likeable to a fault. There's likely nothing more shaky between them than there is between Travis "Swift" and Andy Reid.

Secondly, I don't believe that Carr is anywhere near as incompetent as you imply. I fully believe we can win with him and win at a high level with the right person designing and calling plays. Carmichael had regressed to the level where he would make Tom Brady look bad.

I do, however, agree with you on pretty much everything you said about Haener.

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“Just because you are incapable of letting something go doesn't mean that everyone else is cursed with that weakness.”

^^^ This applies to your rose colored crack pipe.

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Carmichael is now in Denver where he belongs brain storming with Payton. Payton is a master at innovation. Carmichael? Not so much..... Together they reign in or spark the other coach's imagination and draw up some great plays on cocktail napkins after a few beers! :cool:

I really do believe that Kubiak will put Derek Carr in a position to succeed by having him prepared and giving him easy reads on a three step drop and a strong running game. It already sounds old but I believe it's true.

In fact, I believe he could do wonders with Jake Haener too. That young man has all the tools and Kubiak will push both QB's to be their best. I'm cautiously optimistic again!

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I agree with this.
Now let's see if Carr executes.

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Derek Carr… y’all talking about Derek freaking Carr… SMH.

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Heard Underhill touch on this earlier this week but Niners/Kubiak & co used play action 133 times in 2023. The Saints ... 98 times :rolleyes:.

To dumb this down a bit ... Brock Purdy (Mr. Irrelevant) led the league in passer rating on play action attempts.

Carr is who he is, but I expect Kubiak to get a little bit more out of him. Especially with targets (Olave, Shaheed, AK) he has on offense.

Gotta tighten up that o line though. We'll see.

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I mean I wouldn't mind some of that ol' Broncos Zone running game where they seemingly plugged in a 7th rounder or the gas station clerk and got themselves a 1000 yard rusher every year.

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That would be nice. Hopefully some of the coaches that Kubiak brought onboard will help with the line development.

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The Shanahan system has a lot of moving parts and looks a lot like choreography. Kubiak has older coaches and a nice mix of young well versed innovative coaches to blend together. I like the new look offense!

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I'm getting really excited about Kubiak and his coming impact.

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"Kubiak may be able to improve the Saints' offensive scoring efficiency. In 2021, he called plays for the Minnesota Vikings offense, which finished ninth in red-zone touchdown percentage. After a year as the San Francisco 49ers' passing-game coordinator, Kubiak may be able to carry over some principles from the Niners' fourth-ranked passing offense that can help elevate Derek Carr's production."

The smartest move for the Saints this offseason wasn’t a player they added

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My only real concern with bring in Kubiak is the transition and athleticism of the OL. The OL play last season was bad in the red zone. You could almost bet on a drive killing false start or hold inside the 20. If this helps cut down on the pre-snap and post-snap stupidity, then all signs point up.
With Peat likely gone then IDK if the line is athletic enough for a lot of stunts, pulls and reach blocks. Hurst isn't going to be able to do it. He is solid at the point of attack be he isn't getting to the second level. Ram's knee is a huge concern. If its degenerative like it's been reported, then there isn't any way he is going to hold up having to move all season. Maybe this system helps make Penning better but we still likely need a LG & RT IMO. It will be interesting if OL is high on the Saints Day one draft card?

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Thought I’d dust off this little nugget.