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B_Dub_Saint 03-18-2024 04:03 PM

Saints sign Chase Young
 
1 year deal up to $13 million.

K Major 03-18-2024 04:09 PM

Re: Saints sign Chase Young
 
Do the Saints go OL at pick #14?

K Major 03-18-2024 04:18 PM

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B_Dub_Saint 03-18-2024 04:23 PM

Re: Saints sign Chase Young
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 994508)
Do the Saints go OL at pick #14?

With this move, I think so brother.

SmashMouth 03-18-2024 04:39 PM

Re: Saints sign Chase Young
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 994508)
Do the Saints go OL at pick #14?

Quote:

Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint (Post 994510)
With this move, I think so brother.

Would you pass on Dallas Turner at 14?


B_Dub_Saint 03-18-2024 04:49 PM

Re: Saints sign Chase Young
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 994511)
Would you pass on Dallas Turner at 14?

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1769830359623938374

I wouldn't but dem Saints will. We seem to draft for position of need instead of best player available.

neugey 03-18-2024 04:57 PM

Re: Saints sign Chase Young
 
We were down a Buckeye after releasing MT. The situation has been resolved.

SmashMouth 03-18-2024 04:58 PM

Re: Saints sign Chase Young
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 994508)
Do the Saints go OL at pick #14?

Quote:

Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint (Post 994517)
I wouldn't but dem Saints will. We seem to draft for position of need instead of best player available.

Quote:

Originally Posted by neugey (Post 994519)
We were down a Buckeye after releasing MT. The situation has been resolved.


AsylumGuido 03-18-2024 05:04 PM

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SmashMouth 03-18-2024 05:44 PM

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K Major 03-18-2024 06:08 PM

Re: Saints sign Chase Young
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 994511)
Would you pass on Dallas Turner at 14?

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1769830359623938374

Absolutely, positively NOT.

Chase should be getting paid but he's getting one year deals.

No, I'm selecting the rookie Dallas Turner.

AsylumGuido 03-18-2024 06:16 PM

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Mr.Riaton 03-18-2024 06:24 PM

Re: Saints sign Chase Young
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 994534)
Absolutely, positively NOT.

Chase should be getting paid but he's getting one year deals.

No, I'm selecting the rookie Dallas Turner.

That’s what’s questionable about this guy. Why is nobody locking him up?
Also, the 49ers should’ve been a great spot to get the most out of him and he played mediocre at best there. Idk, maybe he’ll come rejuvenated and our coaches will bring him to pro bowl status…
I hope he at least produces more that what we currently have on the other side of Cam

SmashMouth 03-18-2024 06:50 PM

Re: Saints sign Chase Young
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 994534)
Absolutely, positively NOT.

Chase should be getting paid but he's getting one year deals.

No, I'm selecting the rookie Dallas Turner.

We're due for some good luck, especially after the four fingered Davenport disappointment, the Davenport wanna-be Peyton, and hopefully not WTFoskey.

Imagine he balls out and he earns a second contract here next year, and he didn't cost us a draft pick. And we have Dallas Turner as potential rookie of the year.


How's that Zoysia coming up so far? Mine just turned all green, golf course green.

AsylumGuido 03-18-2024 06:51 PM

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Waiting for the terms, but low salary and a signing bonus with void years. They can extend him through the void years if the play works out. The 2026 cap is already being projected at $300 million or more.


AsylumGuido 03-18-2024 06:54 PM

Re: Saints sign Chase Young
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 994542)
We're due for some good luck, especially after the four fingered Davenport disappointment, the Davenport wanna-be Peyton, and hopefully not WTFoskey.

Imagine he balls out and he earns a second contract here next year, and he didn't cost us a draft pick. And we have Dallas Turner as potential rookie of the year.


How's that Zoysia coming up so far? Mine just turned all green, golf course green.

Any chance I can tune in my new 56 degree wedge out there? ;)

K Major 03-18-2024 06:56 PM

Re: Saints sign Chase Young
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 994542)

How's that Zoysia coming up so far? Mine just turned all green, golf course green.

Uh, you're just showing off now :rolleyes: lol.

The Zoysia is coming along nicely ;) Funny you mentioned it because I plan on putting down a pre emergent within the next couple of days (weather permitting).

Smash, I'm not on your level (golf course green) ... YET :bng:

SmashMouth 03-18-2024 07:08 PM

Re: Saints sign Chase Young
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 994544)
Any chance I can tune in my new 56 degree wedge out there? ;)

Yes, of course. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 994545)
Uh, you're just showing off now :rolleyes: lol.

The Zoysia is coming along nicely ;) Funny you mentioned it because I plan on putting down a pre emergent within the next couple of days (weather permitting).

Smash, I'm not on your level (golf course green) ... YET :bng:

Put some carbon down, Nitrogen, pre-emergent (separately), and bug products. All available at Site One for cheap.

SmashMouth 03-18-2024 08:34 PM

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K Major 03-18-2024 08:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 994526)

Nice.

BakoSaint 03-18-2024 09:17 PM

Re: Saints sign Chase Young
 
My issue with Chase Young is trust. Imagine your daughter had a crush on a boy in college who seemed like a great catch. Now its 5 years after college and they have reconnected, except since then he had been divorced twice due to a combination of committing adultery and domestic violence. When they first reconnected she was eager to take him out anyway and they made a date for Friday night, but he inexplicably called it off at the last minute, then they reconnected the next week. Now they are engaged to marry in a year, she wants you to put down the non-refundable deposit for a big wedding venue now, and if the wedding doesn't fall through in a year she mentioned that after the wedding she wants you to take out a mortgage to help them start his business together.

Thats where I feel we are with Young. He was great in college. Since then, the 49ers and Redskins both dumped him due to a combination of low effort and injuries. $13 million for a year isn't cheap but it isn't a fortune. However if he keeps up the act for a year, he might bag a long term contract. He already suckered a team into blowing the #2 overall pick on him and then started taking plays off and coming back very slow from injury. So even if he proves a value on the $13 million deal, that just leads to an even more dangerous investment.

I just don't believe you can ever trust someone who burned their previous teams so badly and has so many risk factors. If he does great, I would offer him a raise to 1 year $16 million in 2025. If he gets 5 years $140 million elsewhere, I would let him walk and take the comp pick.

The Saints once acquired another top 3 overall pick who could not produce in Washington. His name was Heath Shuler. By all accounts he was a nice guy. He just lacked the committment and determination to be a great football player in the NFL.

neugey 03-18-2024 10:44 PM

Re: Saints sign Chase Young
 
If we draft Dallas Turner we almost certainly need to trade Payton Turner or Foskey. It'd be 6 DE's including Cam, Granderson and Chase.

AsylumGuido 03-19-2024 07:06 AM

Re: Saints sign Chase Young
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 994563)
My issue with Chase Young is trust. Imagine your daughter had a crush on a boy in college who seemed like a great catch. Now its 5 years after college and they have reconnected, except since then he had been divorced twice due to a combination of committing adultery and domestic violence. When they first reconnected she was eager to take him out anyway and they made a date for Friday night, but he inexplicably called it off at the last minute, then they reconnected the next week. Now they are engaged to marry in a year, she wants you to put down the non-refundable deposit for a big wedding venue now, and if the wedding doesn't fall through in a year she mentioned that after the wedding she wants you to take out a mortgage to help them start his business together.

Thats where I feel we are with Young. He was great in college. Since then, the 49ers and Redskins both dumped him due to a combination of low effort and injuries. $13 million for a year isn't cheap but it isn't a fortune. However if he keeps up the act for a year, he might bag a long term contract. He already suckered a team into blowing the #2 overall pick on him and then started taking plays off and coming back very slow from injury. So even if he proves a value on the $13 million deal, that just leads to an even more dangerous investment.

I just don't believe you can ever trust someone who burned their previous teams so badly and has so many risk factors. If he does great, I would offer him a raise to 1 year $16 million in 2025. If he gets 5 years $140 million elsewhere, I would let him walk and take the comp pick.

The Saints once acquired another top 3 overall pick who could not produce in Washington. His name was Heath Shuler. By all accounts he was a nice guy. He just lacked the committment and determination to be a great football player in the NFL.

Seriously, where do you come up with this crap?

AsylumGuido 03-19-2024 07:07 AM

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stickman 03-19-2024 07:18 AM

Re: Saints sign Chase Young
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 994563)
My issue with Chase Young is trust. Imagine your daughter had a crush on a boy in college who seemed like a great catch. Now its 5 years after college and they have reconnected, except since then he had been divorced twice due to a combination of committing adultery and domestic violence. When they first reconnected she was eager to take him out anyway and they made a date for Friday night, but he inexplicably called it off at the last minute, then they reconnected the next week. Now they are engaged to marry in a year, she wants you to put down the non-refundable deposit for a big wedding venue now, and if the wedding doesn't fall through in a year she mentioned that after the wedding she wants you to take out a mortgage to help them start his business together.

Thats where I feel we are with Young. He was great in college. Since then, the 49ers and Redskins both dumped him due to a combination of low effort and injuries. $13 million for a year isn't cheap but it isn't a fortune. However if he keeps up the act for a year, he might bag a long term contract. He already suckered a team into blowing the #2 overall pick on him and then started taking plays off and coming back very slow from injury. So even if he proves a value on the $13 million deal, that just leads to an even more dangerous investment.

I just don't believe you can ever trust someone who burned their previous teams so badly and has so many risk factors. If he does great, I would offer him a raise to 1 year $16 million in 2025. If he gets 5 years $140 million elsewhere, I would let him walk and take the comp pick.

The Saints once acquired another top 3 overall pick who could not produce in Washington. His name was Heath Shuler. By all accounts he was a nice guy. He just lacked the committment and determination to be a great football player in the NFL.


Wow Bako, that's... elaborate. And I get where you are coming from, but would be worried more if this were anything more than a "prove it" contract.

leilung 03-19-2024 07:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stickman (Post 994571)
Wow Bako, that's... elaborate. And I get where you are coming from, but would be worried more if this were anything more than a "prove it" contract.

Yeah, I'm with you Stick. He went over the river and through the woods with that analogy, but I understand the gist of it.

A one year is nothing more than a 'prove it' contract. If he balls out and stays healthy, I'm OK with it for 2024. 2025? That's another issue. Let's see what he brings. SB/Rookie Chase, or that guy that 'takes plays off'. ;)

B_Dub_Saint 03-19-2024 08:11 AM

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Well, Chase had 7-1/2 sacks last year. I would be happy to get 8-10 from him in 2024. I'm pretty sure he will be a rotational DE for us.

K Major 03-19-2024 08:25 AM

Re: Saints sign Chase Young
 
The Saints were ranked 31st in pass rush efficiency for 2023.

Chase will help.

I’d still target a DE in the draft though (1st or 2nd).

AsylumGuido 03-19-2024 10:24 AM

Re: Saints sign Chase Young
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint (Post 994574)
Well, Chase had 7-1/2 sacks last year. I would be happy to get 8-10 from him in 2024. I'm pretty sure he will be a rotational DE for us.

As Triplett and Underhill said, 7.5 sacks is what Granderson had last year, too. If we get another Granderson out of Young it'll be a good deal. But, who knows, hopefully Cam will be healthy coming off that ankle he struggled with all season last year and Granderson keeps developing and we have premier pass rush again. And I'm not counting Foskey or Kpassagnon out of the mix either. And that's not even counting Turner if he was able to stay healthy.

BakoSaint 03-19-2024 10:33 AM

Re: Saints sign Chase Young
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 994568)
Seriously, where do you come up with this crap?

Please refrain from personal insults. Feel free to post either your own opinions or fact based critiques of other peoples opinions, but leave out the 'haha thats so stupid because I said so' posts. Logically, I have every right to feel that a chronically underachieving phenom with injury and effort issues is a risky bet. If he balls out as some say, we are in the same predicament that Tampa Bay was in with Mayfield's new contact, where a contract year performance from a known unreliable commodity could paint us into a corner on feeling forced to give him a big contract we know is too risky. If it was just the injury, it could be a situation like when we signed Brees. If it was just the lack of production, maybe he never found the right fit for a team. But when you throw in the problems with effort too, its so easy to see a scenario here where its lose-lose. Either we flush $13 million down the toilet, or we think we hit the jackpot in 2024 and we flush $100 million down the toilet for 2025-2028 and he goes back to half assing it and taking 2 years to recover from injuries. If we were going to spend the money at DE, I would have preferred a different player.

K Major 03-19-2024 10:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 994587)
If we were going to spend the money at DE, I would have preferred a different player.

Who did you have in mind?

AsylumGuido 03-19-2024 11:31 AM

Re: Saints sign Chase Young
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 994587)
Please refrain from personal insults. Feel free to post either your own opinions or fact based critiques of other peoples opinions, but leave out the 'haha thats so stupid because I said so' posts. Logically, I have every right to feel that a chronically underachieving phenom with injury and effort issues is a risky bet. If he balls out as some say, we are in the same predicament that Tampa Bay was in with Mayfield's new contact, where a contract year performance from a known unreliable commodity could paint us into a corner on feeling forced to give him a big contract we know is too risky. If it was just the injury, it could be a situation like when we signed Brees. If it was just the lack of production, maybe he never found the right fit for a team. But when you throw in the problems with effort too, its so easy to see a scenario here where its lose-lose. Either we flush $13 million down the toilet, or we think we hit the jackpot in 2024 and we flush $100 million down the toilet for 2025-2028 and he goes back to half assing it and taking 2 years to recover from injuries. If we were going to spend the money at DE, I would have preferred a different player.

Not a personal insult, dude. Just an opinion on your content. You, however, know about personal insults having called my mother a whore on more than one occasion.

AsylumGuido 03-19-2024 11:43 AM

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Crusader 03-19-2024 12:21 PM

Re: Saints sign Chase Young
 
What excites me the most is that he is only 24. He still should have 2--4 years of development before him. Best case scenario he turns into the player the Commanders hope they drafted and produces a 10+ sack season before signing a longer contract with us and becoming a starter for 5+ years.

papz 03-19-2024 12:29 PM

Re: Saints sign Chase Young
 
I hope he absolutely explodes this year but at the same time, I'm scared of the type of contract he'll command and how he performs once he gets it(if we're the one giving it to him).

Let's just hope for a great season first.

Rugby Saint II 03-19-2024 06:48 PM

Re: Saints sign Chase Young
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papz (Post 994607)
I hope he absolutely explodes this year but at the same time, I'm scared of the type of contract he'll command and how he performs once he gets it(if we're the one giving it to him).

Let's just hope for a great season first.

Bingo! That's my biggest fear too. He could ball out next year and sign a lucrative contract and then get lazy again.

lee909 03-19-2024 07:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by papz (Post 994607)
I hope he absolutely explodes this year but at the same time, I'm scared of the type of contract he'll command and how he performs once he gets it(if we're the one giving it to him).

Let's just hope for a great season first.

Hopefully he performs well enough to net a 3rd round comp pick when he moves on

iceshack149 03-20-2024 11:19 AM

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Woof!

Reassessing the 49ers' Trade for Chase Young

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The 49ers thought Young would play hard for them because they were a Super Bowl contender. Wrong. They also thought Young would play hard because he was reuniting with Nick Bosa, his college teammate. Wrong.As Washington already knew, nothing could motivate Young to play hard. Even in the NFC Championship Game, he jogged around the field during touchdown runs. The Commanders must have laughed.
This offseason, the 49ers didn't even offer Young a contract -- they were done with him. And so he signed with the New Orleans Saints, who are going nowhere. A perfect spot for him.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/reassessing-the-49ers-trade-for-chase-young/ar-BB1kejlB?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=e7949c30ccf8444b8bd776e413c1b63c&ei=24

Sinner 03-20-2024 12:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 994655)
Woof!

Reassessing the 49ers' Trade for Chase Young

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/reassessing-the-49ers-trade-for-chase-young/ar-BB1kejlB?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=e7949c30ccf8444b8bd776e413c1b63c&ei=24

Yep.

bobdog86 03-20-2024 01:00 PM

Re: Saints sign Chase Young
 
as long as he doesn't show up to training camp wearing a Halo and Depends, I'm good with it. Still some mild concerns, but a flyer on a 1 year deal for this cat, what the hell. Some good upside.


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