Mr.Riaton

Thank you Dr. Guido for putting us ignorant, mere mortals in our place. Your infinite wisdom and power surpasses us all and we are forever grateful blah blah blah blah blah🙄

AsylumGuido

Nothing that I can find. Only that the Saints were well aware and obviously didn't see it as any issue with the $13M being fully guaranteed. At least that's what was shared. We both know that only Young himself can share any specifics.

turbo_dog

We should've known there was some "gotcha" with this signing.

B_Dub_Saint

Would ya'll interpret the wording of "procedure" & "surgery" to mean something different? I worked in the medical field, and procedure is definitely less invasive. This could be optics however by his agent and the media's way of spinning the story.

SmashMouth

Isn't it always a "procedure" ?

So long as he is good to go for camp and the season, no care.

WW_Who_Dat

Nick Underhill
4:51 PM - MARCH 19, 2024
SAINTS HAVE INJURY PROTECTIONS IN CHASE YOUNG'S CONTRACT
Chase Young's contract was initially reported to be fully guaranteed. That doesn't seem to be the full story, though.

I'm told the team has some injury provisions in the contract that will protect them if he misses extensive time.

This is important because Young is undergoing neck surgery to repair an injury that occurred last preseason.

We'll see the language of those clauses soon enough.

Mr.Riaton

No matter how you look at it, it’s still a risk and none of us know what the outcome will be….even the Saints. People’s concerns are valid. Hoping things will go smoothly with the surgery and recovery. Also hoping that it doesn’t get re-injured or aggravated through the season.

saintsfan1976

Probably related to this

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/c...ry-per-report/

Washington Commanders pass rusher Chase Young was listed as questionable to suit up in the 2023 season opener against the Arizona Cardinals due to a neck injury, but on Saturday, the team downgraded Young to out. What's worse is that a new report indicates the former No. 2 overall pick could miss more than just this one game.

Per The Athletic, Young's neck injury could cause him to miss additional games. He suffered a stinger in the preseason opener vs. the Cleveland Browns, and was reportedly not given clearance for game contact during a Friday check-up. The Athletic reports that doctors have a plan to gradually increase contact during practice for Young, and that he could return Week 3 vs. the Buffalo Bills.

Young told reporters on Wednesday that he believed he would be able to suit up in Week 1, but that he was waiting on approval from doctors.

BakoSaint

As you have dealt with your cervical neck issues over the past decade, how many weeks would you say that you could have been an effective NFL starter capable of contributing enough on pass rushing downs in excess of the base contribution of Cameron Jordan or Carl Granderson in order to provide $13 million per season of added value?

While the Saints doctors and gambling GM may know more than we do, they also knew more than we did about Thomas, Penning, Turner, Davenport, Moreau, DeShaun Watson, and many players going back to Byrd and Fairley, and their knowledge has not translated into good decisions on injured players since the 2006 offseason. There are also 31 other teams in the NFL who passed on Young or offered less, and based on track records most of them know more about avoiding injured players than the Saints.

If the procedure was minimally invasive, why are they saying Young will miss part of training camp and making no guarantees about the start of the season? This is not a guy who recovered fast from an ACL, missing the better part of 2 years.

If you want to play the inside knowledge card, no other team knows as much as we do about Cameron Jordan's ankle, how much it contributed to his decline in 2023, how much of his decline was more a factor of age, and how well his ankle is recovering to expect a boost or further drop in production in 2024. We don't know what they know, but we do know that their largest expenditure in free agency so far has been a pass rushing DE that recorded a similar or lesser sack total in 2023 than what Jordan has recorded when fully healthy, and that they saw this as the most important addition to make in free agency despite that player having serious enough injury concerns of his own to warrant special contract language. It would be reasonable to infer that the addition of Young makes the most sense if the prognosis on Jordan's contribution to the pass rush in 2024 is poor and the team believes Jordan's decline in 2023 was real and permanent not the PR line about an ankle to cover for the bad contract. If Jordan was about to come back to form in 2024 with 8-10 sacks, no way is Young and his 7.5 sacks and a neck surgery our top priority in free agency.

I am glad we have guarantees against injury. Hopefully they are good guarantees.

AsylumGuido

From what I am hearing only about $4M is truly guaranteed. $7.9M is in weekly "roster bonuses" that require his being active and playing.

Here's more detail I just found.