New Kickoff Rule Impact on Saints

AsylumGuido · 03-28-2024, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by mjf150

Even though our ST coordinator had a hand in this, I still find it a little irritating that the NFL eliminated the surprise onside kick, which was the key to Saints one and only Super Bowl. If we didn’t have the element of surprise on our side, we (probably) don’t win that game. It was the turning point in SB XLIV.

I think we need to balance the gain against the loss. I heard there were only three "surprise" onside kicks last season, while with over 4,000 kickoffs less than 20% had a return. Yes, the new rule eliminates the "surprise" onside, but the team can still attempt one using the old configuration by informing the refs. What is gained is that the fair catch is eliminated and with the marking of the ball at the 30 on a kick into or through the end zone, returns will become the norm as opposed to the rare exception that they had become.

Rugby Saint II · 04-14-2024, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I think we need to balance the gain against the loss. I heard there were only three "surprise" onside kicks last season, while with over 4,000 kickoffs less than 20% had a return. Yes, the new rule eliminates the "surprise" onside, but the team can still attempt one using the old configuration by informing the refs. What is gained is that the fair catch is eliminated and with the marking of the ball at the 30 on a kick into or through the end zone, returns will become the norm as opposed to the rare exception that they had become.

Got it. Thanks.

saintsfan1976 · 03-28-2024, 10:45 AM

I like this new rule!

AsylumGuido · 03-28-2024, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I like this new rule!

Me too! I can see us using Kamara in this role as returner. It will definitely make the kickoff a watchable play again instead of a downed ball 80% plus of the time.

saintsfan1976 · 03-29-2024, 09:46 AM

Think Rugby players, maybe? Linebackers and safeties in the middle, WRs and RBs on the edges?

hitta · 03-29-2024, 01:46 PM

The surprise onside kick being gone is unfortunate, but this rule change is for the better. This will bring dynamic returning back to the league.

leilung · 03-29-2024, 08:15 PM

NFL Network does a good job of breaking it down.

https://sports.yahoo.com/full-breakd...02126668.html?

SmashMouth · 04-01-2024, 12:23 PM

03-28-2024, 08:18 AM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,953	Re: New Kickoff Rule Impact on Saints Originally Posted by mjf150 Even though our ST coordinator had a hand in this, I still find it a little irritating that the NFL eliminated the surprise onside kick, which was the key to Saints one and only Super Bowl. If we didn’t have the element of surprise on our side, we (probably) don’t win that game. It was the turning point in SB XLIV. I think we need to balance the gain against the loss. I heard there were only three "surprise" onside kicks last season, while with over 4,000 kickoffs less than 20% had a return. Yes, the new rule eliminates the "surprise" onside, but the team can still attempt one using the old configuration by informing the refs. What is gained is that the fair catch is eliminated and with the marking of the ball at the 30 on a kick into or through the end zone, returns will become the norm as opposed to the rare exception that they had become. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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04-14-2024, 12:54 PM	#2
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,250	Re: New Kickoff Rule Impact on Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I think we need to balance the gain against the loss. I heard there were only three "surprise" onside kicks last season, while with over 4,000 kickoffs less than 20% had a return. Yes, the new rule eliminates the "surprise" onside, but the team can still attempt one using the old configuration by informing the refs. What is gained is that the fair catch is eliminated and with the marking of the ball at the 30 on a kick into or through the end zone, returns will become the norm as opposed to the rare exception that they had become. Got it. Thanks.

03-28-2024, 10:45 AM	#3
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,103 Blog Entries: 3	Re: New Kickoff Rule Impact on Saints I like this new rule! AsylumGuido likes this.

03-28-2024, 11:20 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,953	Re: New Kickoff Rule Impact on Saints Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I like this new rule! Me too! I can see us using Kamara in this role as returner. It will definitely make the kickoff a watchable play again instead of a downed ball 80% plus of the time.

03-29-2024, 09:46 AM	#5
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,103 Blog Entries: 3	Re: New Kickoff Rule Impact on Saints Think Rugby players, maybe? Linebackers and safeties in the middle, WRs and RBs on the edges?

03-29-2024, 01:46 PM	#6
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,348	Re: New Kickoff Rule Impact on Saints The surprise onside kick being gone is unfortunate, but this rule change is for the better. This will bring dynamic returning back to the league. AsylumGuido likes this.
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03-29-2024, 08:15 PM	#7
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,439	Re: New Kickoff Rule Impact on Saints NFL Network does a good job of breaking it down. https://sports.yahoo.com/full-breakd...02126668.html? AsylumGuido likes this.

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