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The Dude 05-24-2024 10:34 PM
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I’m going with 12 and sticking to it.

saintsfan1976 05-25-2024 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 996375)
I’m going with 12 and sticking to it.
I can see 12 and I can see 7. So many contingencies and variables to this season...

mapcow 05-25-2024 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 996369)
To you and I , the amount is huge. However, as a matter of procedure the amount is immaterial. I've GC'd my own projects, and had GCs manage others. I have the perspective of both sides, and the experience of having had the displeasure of dealing with real estate liens from BS contractors. It's not up to you and I to come up with their paperwork. It's the media's job to actually do homework rather than mercilessly smear for some alternate God knows what reason. We're just spectators at the end of the day.
BS Contractors.... ok, then shame on the Saints Organization for not knowing the better contractor .... again if true, piss poor on their part. :beatnik:

SmashMouth 05-26-2024 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 996387)
BS Contractors.... ok, then shame on the Saints Organization for not knowing the better contractor .... again if true, piss poor on their part. :beatnik:
That's actually a good question. Who got to pick said contractor? Saints, Superdome, State?

Boston Saint 05-26-2024 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 996436)
That's actually a good question. Who got to pick said contractor? Saints, Superdome, State?
I was wondering that myself Smash. Since the Saints have no ownership stake in the SD (None that I am aware of anyway), it would likely be that the bidding process and contractor choice would NOT be part of the Saint’s role in the process. That’s just my guess though. But if you rent a house that needs work you don’t choose the contractor….the owner does.

AsylumGuido 05-26-2024 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 996436)
That's actually a good question. Who got to pick said contractor? Saints, Superdome, State?
"Louisiana Stadium & Exposition District is a political subdivision created under Louisiana law. The board's primary purpose is to plan, finance, construct, develop, maintain and operate facilities located within the District for events of public interest."

The State via the LSED selected the contractor. This was all on the LSED and, in turn, the State. As much as someone wants to blame the Saints for anything, all they did was withhold one payment until they got an explanation for the contracted work being done. That payment was in part related to an overage to the initial estimate. I read and heard that there was also a question about the LSED possibly "co-mingling" funds with other separate projects. Very bad, if indeed true.

The team also appears to have taken advantage of the situation to use that leverage in the new lease negotiations which will extend through the 2035 season.

This now addressed issue was all on the LSED and not on the Saints, to the chagrin of some. But, then again, haters will always find an excuse to hate.

;)

AsylumGuido 05-26-2024 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 996437)
I was wondering that myself Smash. Since the Saints have no ownership stake in the SD (None that I am aware of anyway), it would likely be that the bidding process and contractor choice would NOT be part of the Saint’s role in the process. That’s just my guess though. But if you rent a house that needs work you don’t choose the contractor….the owner does.
Exactly!

Sinner 05-26-2024 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 996444)
Exactly!
“Exactly” confirms that the “Owner” chooses to continue to profit from BS. Why fans applaud this and adore her, I’ll never figure out.

BakoSaint 05-26-2024 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 996448)
“Exactly” confirms that the “Owner” chooses to continue to profit from BS. Why fans applaud this and adore her, I’ll never figure out.
In this case, what choice does she have? Its no shock that there could be corruption in large public construction contracts in Louisiana. So if she does not want to deal with this BS it would seem that her options would be to move the team outside the state of Louisiana, self-finance her own stadium in the New Orleans region for at least $1 billion cash which she does not have and deal with permitting BS, or seek public funding for a new stadium the team could control, which would not likely be popular with enough votes. And to do any of these things she would have to navigate the team's existing Superdome lease which is negotiated many years in advance and risk letting it expire to time a stadium building effort or move to 2030 or whatever. I think the whole reason the state keeps upgrading the Superdome instead of building new is that its easier to embezzle from renovations where costs are harder to compare and more variable, but I don't think the Saints can do anything about it.

AsylumGuido 05-26-2024 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 996454)
In this case, what choice does she have? Its no shock that there could be corruption in large public construction contracts in Louisiana. So if she does not want to deal with this BS it would seem that her options would be to move the team outside the state of Louisiana, self-finance her own stadium in the New Orleans region for at least $1 billion cash which she does not have and deal with permitting BS, or seek public funding for a new stadium the team could control, which would not likely be popular with enough votes. And to do any of these things she would have to navigate the team's existing Superdome lease which is negotiated many years in advance and risk letting it expire to time a stadium building effort or move to 2030 or whatever. I think the whole reason the state keeps upgrading the Superdome instead of building new is that its easier to embezzle from renovations where costs are harder to compare and more variable, but I don't think the Saints can do anything about it.
One thing that the Saints can do about it is withhold a payment until they get answers. They did just that.

Sinner 05-26-2024 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 996454)
In this case, what choice does she have? Its no shock that there could be corruption in large public construction contracts in Louisiana. So if she does not want to deal with this BS it would seem that her options would be to move the team outside the state of Louisiana, self-finance her own stadium in the New Orleans region for at least $1 billion cash which she does not have and deal with permitting BS, or seek public funding for a new stadium the team could control, which would not likely be popular with enough votes. And to do any of these things she would have to navigate the team's existing Superdome lease which is negotiated many years in advance and risk letting it expire to time a stadium building effort or move to 2030 or whatever. I think the whole reason the state keeps upgrading the Superdome instead of building new is that its easier to embezzle from renovations where costs are harder to compare and more variable, but I don't think the Saints can do anything about it.
One thing the Saints CAN’T do, is put a championship home team in the Super Dome before it gets torn down. But we love Divine Lady B.

Rugby Saint II 05-26-2024 05:37 PM
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Right now I'm thinking 9-8 is realistic. If we perform well in camp the defense is strong enough to carry this fledgling offense. We could be five games better or five games worse than last year.

Right now OTA's look promising. What I'm waiting for now is to hear the crack of pads at practice and seeing players prove that they belong!

The Dude 05-26-2024 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 996288)
not at all.... just helping you understand reality. :beatnik:

chew on this..... yeah, saints organization got it together. of course, the Saints Organization blames the state.. uh.....no.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...BingNewsSearch
It’s becoming apparent that this organization is an absolute dumpster fire. Frail Gayle is the worst owner in the league and I’m thinking she’s ready to cash it in. There are other ****ty owners no doubt but at least they have a spine (not to mention testicles) and base decisions at least partially with a little knowledge of the game. There won’t be another contract coming to keep the Saints here.

Sinner 05-26-2024 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 996488)
It’s becoming apparent that this organization is an absolute dumpster fire. Frail Gayle is the worst owner in the league and I’m thinking she’s ready to cash it in. There are other ****ty owners no doubt but at least they have a spine (not to mention testicles) and base decisions at least partially with a little knowledge of the game. There won’t be another contract coming to keep the Saints here.
For some on here, and for some odd reason, there seems to be more loyalty to this rich woman, than to a potentially winning Saints Team.

The Dude 05-26-2024 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 996302)
Obviously the sinner guy doesn't understand how the ignore function works. Is there any way you can reply to it without quoting his crap please, Boston? Not blaming you at all, but it's sickening just having to see even one of 50 show up as part of a reply post.
Yea that’s it you entitled *****. Make everyone else walk on eggshells and help make this place your safe space. Let’s all alter our actions so Quido doesn’t get his widdle feelings hurt. Should he also post a trigger warning if he’s gonna quote someone you ignored?

Sinner 05-26-2024 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 996490)
Yea that’s it you entitled *****. Make everyone else walk on eggshells and help make this place your safe space. Let’s all alter our actions so Quido doesn’t get his widdle feelings hurt. Should he also post a trigger warning if he’s gonna quote someone you ignored?
I have read “that sinner guy” more times since being set to IGNORE than anywhere else at any time. I don’t think that word IGNORE means what he thinks it means.

AsylumGuido 05-27-2024 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 996488)
It’s becoming apparent that this organization is an absolute dumpster fire. Frail Gayle is the worst owner in the league and I’m thinking she’s ready to cash it in. There are other ****ty owners no doubt but at least they have a spine (not to mention testicles) and base decisions at least partially with a little knowledge of the game. There won’t be another contract coming to keep the Saints here.
The only dumpster fire I'm seeing right now is you, Dude. Try getting a grip.

:rolleyes:

leilung 05-27-2024 10:32 AM
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My way too early 2024 Season Projection:

CAROLINA W
@DALLAS L
PHILLY L
@ATLANTA W
@KC L
TAMPA BAY W
DENVER W
@LAC W
@CAROLINA W
ATLANTA L
CLEVELAND L
LAR W
@NYG W
WASHINGTON W
@GREEN BAY L
LAS VEGAS W
@TAMPA BAY L

That gives us 10-7. Division Opponents can go either way with the exception of Carolina, who has some work to do. The way I see it, if we start strong (which hasn't been our past precedent) then we're in the playoff hunt.

Keep in mind that I'm throwing in at least two games that will be the trap games we blow, when we should win. (Cleveland & Atlanta)

rezburna 05-27-2024 05:25 PM
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Granderson
Bresee
Jordan
Young
Werner
Davis
Gay

That front 7 has me optimistic about having a top 5 defense. The new offensive coordinator has me optimistic about our ability to run the ball. Those two things combined are winning football. Idk what our record will be, but I’m ready to put eyes on this team.

AsylumGuido 05-27-2024 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 996530)
Granderson
Bresee
Jordan
Young
Werner
Davis
Gay

That front 7 has me optimistic about having a top 5 defense. The new offensive coordinator has me optimistic about our ability to run the ball. Those two things combined are winning football. Idk what our record will be, but I’m ready to put eyes on this team.
That's all we can ask for now, my friend.

Boston Saint 05-27-2024 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 996530)
Granderson
Bresee
Jordan
Young
Werner
Davis
Gay

That front 7 has me optimistic about having a top 5 defense. The new offensive coordinator has me optimistic about our ability to run the ball. Those two things combined are winning football. Idk what our record will be, but I’m ready to put eyes on this team.
Defensive Backfield isn’t looking too shabby either.

spkb25 05-27-2024 08:42 PM
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Quantithousand wins

Sinner 05-27-2024 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 996533)
Quantithousand wins
You.. you’re good. ^^^ LMFAO 🤣

Cruize 05-28-2024 09:46 AM
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LOVE the over on that one.

AsylumGuido 05-28-2024 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 996543)
LOVE the over on that one.
I've already put my money on it. By the time season rolls around I'll bet that number is higher.

AsylumGuido 05-30-2024 10:56 AM
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AsylumGuido 09-17-2024 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 996553)
I've already put my money on it. By the time season rolls around I'll bet that number is higher.
I put my money on the over 7.5 as soon as it came out on the Caesar's app. Guess where it is sitting today?


10.5

Sinner 09-17-2024 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1001429)
I put my money on the over 7.5 as soon as it came out on the Caesar's app. Guess where it is sitting today?


10.5
SUPER BOWL BABY.


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