Official 2024 Saints OTA News and Discussion

Sinner · 05-25-2024, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

In what part of that quote did I say the Saints should do this or I hope this happens? I pointed out what happened to the Niners. Do you even read what I post or is your reading comprehension at the level that you just make up the stuff I say?

I answered in another thread I started that I want the Saints to win the NFCS this year. Did you not comprehend that either? You made some lame attempt to show me up in that thread rather than answering BTW. Glad to see truth and logic can trigger you so much.

Not triggered at all. Just to be clear, I’m sure you’d like us to be in a position to draft better, and since you used San Fran as an example, we would have to theoretically extend or increase the intensity of our suckiness to achieve that goal. OR we could suck at our current level, and remain at our current draft level, while retaining our substitute Head Coach… Which would you prefer?

Boston Saint · 05-25-2024, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

Not triggered at all. Just to be clear, I’m sure you’d like us to be in a position to draft better, and since you used San Fran as an example, we would have to theoretically extend or increase the intensity of our suckiness to achieve that goal. OR we could suck at our current level, and remain at our current draft level, while retaining our substitute Head Coach… Which would you prefer?

Again, reading comprehension. To quote you….

“I’m sure you’d like us to be in a position to draft better, and since you used San Fran as an example,”

First all you are surety is full of crap because I do not want, nor have ever said, I want them in a better draft position. I clearly said in the other thread (the one I started in which you passive aggressively responded but did not answer the question posed) that I want them to win the NFCS. That clearly is not wanting better draft positioning.

Secondly, I wasn’t bringing up San Fran as an example for ANYTHING. I made a factual comment in a discussion going on about Purdy, Haener, the recent Niner success and their perceived commitment to winning. I (again 100 percent accurately) noted that the Niners had a fairly recent losing period (especially compared to the Saints) that aided their success. I also (again factually) pointed out that the Saints have performed “well” enough that they did not build that type of draft capital.

You directly respond to me in a smart-ass manner falsely claiming I was endorsing a tanking plan of some type. That’s textbook being triggered. You know you can set me to ignore if my posts bother you so much.

AsylumGuido · 05-25-2024, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Again, reading comprehension. To quote you….

“I’m sure you’d like us to be in a position to draft better, and since you used San Fran as an example,”

First all you are surety is full of crap because I do not want, nor have ever said, I want them in a better draft position. I clearly said in the other thread (the one I started in which you passive aggressively responded but did not answer the question posed) that I want them to win the NFCS. That clearly is not wanting better draft positioning.

Secondly, I wasn’t bringing up San Fran as an example for ANYTHING. I made a factual comment in a discussion going on about Purdy, Haener, the recent Niner success and their perceived commitment to winning. I (again 100 percent accurately) noted that the Niners had a fairly recent losing period (especially compared to the Saints) that aided their success. I also (again factually) pointed out that the Saints have performed “well” enough that they did not build that type of draft capital.

You directly respond to me in a smart-ass manner falsely claiming I was endorsing a tanking plan of some type. That’s textbook being triggered. You know you can set me to ignore if my posts bother you so much.

If the loser set you to ignore he couldn't get the satisfaction from his trolling with you. Ignore him and his crap has one less fan to hit.

Sinner · 05-25-2024, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

If the loser set you to ignore he couldn't get the satisfaction from his trolling with you. Ignore him and his crap has one less fan to hit.

I’ll always have YOU Quido. ❤️

Sinner · 05-25-2024, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Again, reading comprehension. To quote you….

“I’m sure you’d like us to be in a position to draft better, and since you used San Fran as an example,”

First all you are surety is full of crap because I do not want, nor have ever said, I want them in a better draft position. I clearly said in the other thread (the one I started in which you passive aggressively responded but did not answer the question posed) that I want them to win the NFCS. That clearly is not wanting better draft positioning.

Secondly, I wasn’t bringing up San Fran as an example for ANYTHING. I made a factual comment in a discussion going on about Purdy, Haener, the recent Niner success and their perceived commitment to winning. I (again 100 percent accurately) noted that the Niners had a fairly recent losing period (especially compared to the Saints) that aided their success. I also (again factually) pointed out that the Saints have performed “well” enough that they did not build that type of draft capital.

You directly respond to me in a smart-ass manner falsely claiming I was endorsing a tanking plan of some type. That’s textbook being triggered. You know you can set me to ignore if my posts bother you so much.

So when you say, “I (again 100 percent accurately) noted that the Niners had a fairly recent losing period (especially compared to the Saints) that aided their success. I also (again factually) pointed out that the Saints have performed “well” enough that they did not build that type of draft capital”, you are NOT wanting us to perform as poorly as the Niners did, in order to build up that kind of draft capital. I comprehend that. So I am left to assume that if we continue to perform “well enough” to NOT be in a Niners type of draft position, (and probably just well enough to keep Dennis Allen around as Head Coach), you’ll be happy. Yes?

Boston Saint · 05-25-2024, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

So I am left to assume that if we continue to perform “well enough” to NOT be in a Niners type of draft position, (and probably just well enough to keep Dennis Allen around as Head Coach), you’ll be happy. Yes?

Why would you assume this? Using this “logic” I could assume it would make you happy for the team to go 0-17 since you hate Allen so much.

I (like Guido) want the saints to win every game. Unlike him I don’t say I expect them to. I want them to win a second SB. But I realize the difficulties in doing so and that some factors are out of a team’s control.

I want them 20-0. But I’d rather them 16-1 than 13-4. Rather them 13-4 than 10-7. 10-7 rather than 6-9. 6-9 rather than 2-15. I wasn’t happy when Payton had a three year 7-9 run. But I would have been less happy with multiple 3-13 records.

By necessity, the first step in winning the SB is making the playoffs. Hopefully that means winning the division. Again, when I brought this up in another thread, you questioned my manhood. Not sure why my point of view brings this type of response from you.

Sinner · 05-25-2024, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Why would you assume this? Using this “logic” I could assume it would make you happy for the team to go 0-17 since you hate Allen so much.

I (like Guido) want the saints to win every game. Unlike him I don’t say I expect them to. I want them to win a second SB. But I realize the difficulties in doing so and that some factors are out of a team’s control.

I want them 20-0. But I’d rather them 16-1 than 13-4. Rather them 13-4 than 10-7. 10-7 rather than 6-9. 6-9 rather than 2-15. I wasn’t happy when Payton had a three year 7-9 run. But I would have been less happy with multiple 3-13 records.

By necessity, the first step in winning the SB is making the playoffs. Hopefully that means winning the division. Again, when I brought this up in another thread, you questioned my manhood. Not sure why my point of view brings this type of response from you.

I want “them” (US) to win too. Badly.

Boston Saint · 05-25-2024, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

I want “them” (US) to win too. Badly.

And you show this by crapping on every aspect of anything the organization does and hounding other users the minute they express any optimism or, in my case, simply comparing the records of two teams over the last ten years?

Sinner · 05-25-2024, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

And you show this by crapping on every aspect of anything the organization does and hounding other users the minute they express any optimism or, in my case, simply comparing the records of two teams over the last ten years?

I do what I do. If you are willing to give the Saints (MIS)management a pass for doing what they do, you can allow a disgruntled fan to vent in our Saints Forum, or you can scroll past my comments, or you can set me to IGNORE. There is no reason to get hostile with me.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 05-26-2024, 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by Sinner

I want “them” (US) to win too. Badly.

Yes, but the only way you seem to propose doing this is tearing down the organization from the top down (sell the team, fire the general manager and president, replace the coach, bring in all new players, coaches, and general management in order to improve the team.)

It's annoying because none of that is going to happen. Ms. Benson isn't going sell. She already has her succession plan in place. She's not going to fire either Lauschia or Loomis. Loomis continues to see improvement with the team with Allen. He's had 2 opportunities to let him go and has declined twice. He's here in 2024 and with just moderate improvement of a game or 2 and a playoff berth will be around for the foreseeable future.

So, your continued complaining about all the top brass in the Saints organization is an exercise in futility. While it's fine to point it out once in a while, this continued whining every day in every thread that you've been assaulting us with for 2 years with these continued calls that we just all want mediocrity when in fact folks here just taking a situation that they understand isn't going to change significantly and hoping to make the best of it, is quite annoying.

And don't bother to call to put you on ignore. You are the antithesis/evil twin of Guido in that you're going to pop up in everyone's replies if you are on their ignore list or not. And because your posts are so persistent, so annoying, and so provocative, other folks like Boston will feel compelled to reply.

Isn't it exhausting coming here every day and screaming at the Gulf to dry up? Whether we put you on ignore or not, no one in the Saints organization is going to change the vision any time soon. A vision that my brother reminded me this week has been nearly 20 years of competitive football with 0 seasons of less than 7 wins since 2006. Back in the day when we were kids such a stretch would have been unimangineable.

I know I doing as you, screaming in the storm with no hope for change. But understand this is why Guido, and Boston, and me, and others keep pushing back on your futile negativity. We are all hoping that the Saints will be better within the existing construct of the organization. Your wanting to blow it all up isn't going to happen any time soon unless the organization has a season or two of abject failure. None of us want that. But it sure seems like you do. So, why is it that you want a team that you supposedly support and want to be successful to fail miserably just in order to get the changes you want?

SFIAH

05-25-2024, 06:48 PM	#1
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,065	Re: Official 2024 Saints OTA News and Discussion Originally Posted by Boston Saint In what part of that quote did I say the Saints should do this or I hope this happens? I pointed out what happened to the Niners. Do you even read what I post or is your reading comprehension at the level that you just make up the stuff I say? I answered in another thread I started that I want the Saints to win the NFCS this year. Did you not comprehend that either? You made some lame attempt to show me up in that thread rather than answering BTW. Glad to see truth and logic can trigger you so much. Not triggered at all. Just to be clear, I’m sure you’d like us to be in a position to draft better, and since you used San Fran as an example, we would have to theoretically extend or increase the intensity of our suckiness to achieve that goal. OR we could suck at our current level, and remain at our current draft level, while retaining our substitute Head Coach… Which would you prefer?
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05-25-2024, 07:43 PM	#2
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Official 2024 Saints OTA News and Discussion Originally Posted by Sinner Not triggered at all. Just to be clear, I’m sure you’d like us to be in a position to draft better, and since you used San Fran as an example, we would have to theoretically extend or increase the intensity of our suckiness to achieve that goal. OR we could suck at our current level, and remain at our current draft level, while retaining our substitute Head Coach… Which would you prefer? Again, reading comprehension. To quote you…. “I’m sure you’d like us to be in a position to draft better, and since you used San Fran as an example,” First all you are surety is full of crap because I do not want, nor have ever said, I want them in a better draft position. I clearly said in the other thread (the one I started in which you passive aggressively responded but did not answer the question posed) that I want them to win the NFCS. That clearly is not wanting better draft positioning. Secondly, I wasn’t bringing up San Fran as an example for ANYTHING. I made a factual comment in a discussion going on about Purdy, Haener, the recent Niner success and their perceived commitment to winning. I (again 100 percent accurately) noted that the Niners had a fairly recent losing period (especially compared to the Saints) that aided their success. I also (again factually) pointed out that the Saints have performed “well” enough that they did not build that type of draft capital. You directly respond to me in a smart-ass manner falsely claiming I was endorsing a tanking plan of some type. That’s textbook being triggered. You know you can set me to ignore if my posts bother you so much.
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05-25-2024, 07:49 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,575	Re: Official 2024 Saints OTA News and Discussion Originally Posted by Boston Saint Again, reading comprehension. To quote you…. “I’m sure you’d like us to be in a position to draft better, and since you used San Fran as an example,” First all you are surety is full of crap because I do not want, nor have ever said, I want them in a better draft position. I clearly said in the other thread (the one I started in which you passive aggressively responded but did not answer the question posed) that I want them to win the NFCS. That clearly is not wanting better draft positioning. Secondly, I wasn’t bringing up San Fran as an example for ANYTHING. I made a factual comment in a discussion going on about Purdy, Haener, the recent Niner success and their perceived commitment to winning. I (again 100 percent accurately) noted that the Niners had a fairly recent losing period (especially compared to the Saints) that aided their success. I also (again factually) pointed out that the Saints have performed “well” enough that they did not build that type of draft capital. You directly respond to me in a smart-ass manner falsely claiming I was endorsing a tanking plan of some type. That’s textbook being triggered. You know you can set me to ignore if my posts bother you so much. If the loser set you to ignore he couldn't get the satisfaction from his trolling with you. Ignore him and his crap has one less fan to hit.

05-25-2024, 07:53 PM	#4
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,065	Re: Official 2024 Saints OTA News and Discussion Originally Posted by AsylumGuido If the loser set you to ignore he couldn't get the satisfaction from his trolling with you. Ignore him and his crap has one less fan to hit. I’ll always have YOU Quido. ❤️
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05-25-2024, 07:52 PM	#5
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,065	Re: Official 2024 Saints OTA News and Discussion Originally Posted by Boston Saint Again, reading comprehension. To quote you…. “I’m sure you’d like us to be in a position to draft better, and since you used San Fran as an example,” First all you are surety is full of crap because I do not want, nor have ever said, I want them in a better draft position. I clearly said in the other thread (the one I started in which you passive aggressively responded but did not answer the question posed) that I want them to win the NFCS. That clearly is not wanting better draft positioning. Secondly, I wasn’t bringing up San Fran as an example for ANYTHING. I made a factual comment in a discussion going on about Purdy, Haener, the recent Niner success and their perceived commitment to winning. I (again 100 percent accurately) noted that the Niners had a fairly recent losing period (especially compared to the Saints) that aided their success. I also (again factually) pointed out that the Saints have performed “well” enough that they did not build that type of draft capital. You directly respond to me in a smart-ass manner falsely claiming I was endorsing a tanking plan of some type. That’s textbook being triggered. You know you can set me to ignore if my posts bother you so much. So when you say, “I (again 100 percent accurately) noted that the Niners had a fairly recent losing period (especially compared to the Saints) that aided their success. I also (again factually) pointed out that the Saints have performed “well” enough that they did not build that type of draft capital”, you are NOT wanting us to perform as poorly as the Niners did, in order to build up that kind of draft capital. I comprehend that. So I am left to assume that if we continue to perform “well enough” to NOT be in a Niners type of draft position, (and probably just well enough to keep Dennis Allen around as Head Coach), you’ll be happy. Yes?
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05-25-2024, 08:31 PM	#6
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Official 2024 Saints OTA News and Discussion Originally Posted by Sinner So I am left to assume that if we continue to perform “well enough” to NOT be in a Niners type of draft position, (and probably just well enough to keep Dennis Allen around as Head Coach), you’ll be happy. Yes? Why would you assume this? Using this “logic” I could assume it would make you happy for the team to go 0-17 since you hate Allen so much. I (like Guido) want the saints to win every game. Unlike him I don’t say I expect them to. I want them to win a second SB. But I realize the difficulties in doing so and that some factors are out of a team’s control. I want them 20-0. But I’d rather them 16-1 than 13-4. Rather them 13-4 than 10-7. 10-7 rather than 6-9. 6-9 rather than 2-15. I wasn’t happy when Payton had a three year 7-9 run. But I would have been less happy with multiple 3-13 records. By necessity, the first step in winning the SB is making the playoffs. Hopefully that means winning the division. Again, when I brought this up in another thread, you questioned my manhood. Not sure why my point of view brings this type of response from you. AsylumGuido likes this.
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05-25-2024, 08:35 PM	#7
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,065	Re: Official 2024 Saints OTA News and Discussion Originally Posted by Boston Saint Why would you assume this? Using this “logic” I could assume it would make you happy for the team to go 0-17 since you hate Allen so much. I (like Guido) want the saints to win every game. Unlike him I don’t say I expect them to. I want them to win a second SB. But I realize the difficulties in doing so and that some factors are out of a team’s control. I want them 20-0. But I’d rather them 16-1 than 13-4. Rather them 13-4 than 10-7. 10-7 rather than 6-9. 6-9 rather than 2-15. I wasn’t happy when Payton had a three year 7-9 run. But I would have been less happy with multiple 3-13 records. By necessity, the first step in winning the SB is making the playoffs. Hopefully that means winning the division. Again, when I brought this up in another thread, you questioned my manhood. Not sure why my point of view brings this type of response from you. I want “them” (US) to win too. Badly.
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05-25-2024, 08:45 PM	#8
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Official 2024 Saints OTA News and Discussion Originally Posted by Sinner I want “them” (US) to win too. Badly. And you show this by crapping on every aspect of anything the organization does and hounding other users the minute they express any optimism or, in my case, simply comparing the records of two teams over the last ten years?

05-25-2024, 10:02 PM	#9
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,065	Re: Official 2024 Saints OTA News and Discussion Originally Posted by Boston Saint And you show this by crapping on every aspect of anything the organization does and hounding other users the minute they express any optimism or, in my case, simply comparing the records of two teams over the last ten years? I do what I do. If you are willing to give the Saints (MIS)management a pass for doing what they do, you can allow a disgruntled fan to vent in our Saints Forum, or you can scroll past my comments, or you can set me to IGNORE. There is no reason to get hostile with me.
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05-26-2024, 12:43 AM	#10
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: Official 2024 Saints OTA News and Discussion Originally Posted by Sinner I want “them” (US) to win too. Badly. Yes, but the only way you seem to propose doing this is tearing down the organization from the top down (sell the team, fire the general manager and president, replace the coach, bring in all new players, coaches, and general management in order to improve the team.) It's annoying because none of that is going to happen. Ms. Benson isn't going sell. She already has her succession plan in place. She's not going to fire either Lauschia or Loomis. Loomis continues to see improvement with the team with Allen. He's had 2 opportunities to let him go and has declined twice. He's here in 2024 and with just moderate improvement of a game or 2 and a playoff berth will be around for the foreseeable future. So, your continued complaining about all the top brass in the Saints organization is an exercise in futility. While it's fine to point it out once in a while, this continued whining every day in every thread that you've been assaulting us with for 2 years with these continued calls that we just all want mediocrity when in fact folks here just taking a situation that they understand isn't going to change significantly and hoping to make the best of it, is quite annoying. And don't bother to call to put you on ignore. You are the antithesis/evil twin of Guido in that you're going to pop up in everyone's replies if you are on their ignore list or not. And because your posts are so persistent, so annoying, and so provocative, other folks like Boston will feel compelled to reply. Isn't it exhausting coming here every day and screaming at the Gulf to dry up? Whether we put you on ignore or not, no one in the Saints organization is going to change the vision any time soon. A vision that my brother reminded me this week has been nearly 20 years of competitive football with 0 seasons of less than 7 wins since 2006. Back in the day when we were kids such a stretch would have been unimangineable. I know I doing as you, screaming in the storm with no hope for change. But understand this is why Guido, and Boston, and me, and others keep pushing back on your futile negativity. We are all hoping that the Saints will be better within the existing construct of the organization. Your wanting to blow it all up isn't going to happen any time soon unless the organization has a season or two of abject failure. None of us want that. But it sure seems like you do. So, why is it that you want a team that you supposedly support and want to be successful to fail miserably just in order to get the changes you want? SFIAH jnormand, Danno, AsylumGuido and 2 others like this.
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