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AsylumGuido 05-22-2024 04:38 PM

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AsylumGuido 05-22-2024 05:34 PM

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$11.5 million is pocket change for any NFL team. How about a little responsible reporting, LSED? Louisiana government idiocy. Why can't they do their jobs which include required reporting?

FYI about LSED. Louisiana Stadium & Exposition District is a political subdivision created under Louisiana law. The board's primary purpose is to plan, finance, construct, develop, maintain and operate facilities located within the District for events of public interest.


SmashMouth 05-23-2024 03:28 AM

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Looks like the SuperDome is late on paperwork themselves.

AsylumGuido 05-24-2024 02:36 PM

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AsylumGuido 05-24-2024 02:37 PM

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AsylumGuido 05-24-2024 04:12 PM

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Translation: If you morons want to keep this posh committee assignment get off your asses and do your jobs and do it right.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOX4Op0X...jpg&name=small

AsylumGuido 05-24-2024 05:05 PM

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Pocket change for the 2nd richest individual in the State of Louisiana, Gayle Benson.


The Dude 05-24-2024 10:31 PM

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Looks like the team was holding back after all. And here we go.

SmashMouth 05-25-2024 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 996347)

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 996356)
Translation: If you morons want to keep this posh committee assignment get off your asses and do your jobs and do it right.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOX4Op0X...jpg&name=small

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 996364)
Pocket change for the 2nd richest individual in the State of Louisiana, Gayle Benson.

https://twitter.com/NOLAnews/status/1794124910337409293

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 996374)
Looks like the team was holding back after all. And here we go.

As they should have. When you have leverage to get things done, use it, especially if the other party is tardy. It's really the LSED and the State at the end of the day with the black eye, not surprisingly. With SB 2025 in the balance and clearly in front, pressure is on to have the renovations completed in time.

On a side note, the amounts and budget increases for the renovations seem excessive for an already built structure.

neugey 05-25-2024 06:56 AM

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If we want them to cooperate, tell them we're including a volleyball stadium for Brett Favre's daughter.

Too soon?

mapcow 05-25-2024 07:33 AM

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Remember.... y'all heard it from me first....

I was correct with the Prima Donna #13, and I called it again....:beatnik:

mapcow 05-25-2024 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 996247)

uh.... i posted this yesterday in that other thread. catch up! :beatnik:

mapcow 05-25-2024 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 996364)
Pocket change for the 2nd richest individual in the State of Louisiana, Gayle Benson.

https://twitter.com/NOLAnews/status/1794124910337409293

and she will see just as much profit to house a losing team until the sale or relocation of the organization. unless the current fan support demands a better product for their hard earned money... but, to each his own... a fool and his money kinda thing. :beatnik:

mapcow 05-25-2024 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 996250)
$11.5 million is pocket change for any NFL team. How about a little responsible reporting, LSED? Louisiana government idiocy. Why can't they do their jobs which include required reporting?

FYI about LSED. Louisiana Stadium & Exposition District is a political subdivision created under Louisiana law. The board's primary purpose is to plan, finance, construct, develop, maintain and operate facilities located within the District for events of public interest.

https://twitter.com/JohnJHendrix/sta...02952868139294

.... ahhh.... pointing fingers at the State, just like the organization. instead of accepting responsibility and just pay the damn bill.

mapcow 05-25-2024 07:43 AM

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.... and as i opine.... what a perfect setup for departure...construction payment issues, who pays who, and who is 100% responsible, followed by finger pointing, which leads to other unresolved issues, and so on and so on.... enjoy mediocracy at its finest. :beatnik:

Rugby Saint II 05-25-2024 03:30 PM

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Has Trump ever missed a payment? All this fuss about nothing. Trump is the king of debt and he's running for the Presidency. Let's not make too much out of nothing. I've been late on bills before. Although, it wasn't millions of dollars.

mapcow 05-26-2024 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 996404)
Has Trump ever missed a payment? All this fuss about nothing. Trump is the king of debt and he's running for the Presidency. Let's not make too much out of nothing. I've been late on bills before. Although, it wasn't millions of dollars.

TDS much?! :beatnik:

Sinner 05-26-2024 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 996392)
.... and as i opine.... what a perfect setup for departure...construction payment issues, who pays who, and who is 100% responsible, followed by finger pointing, which leads to other unresolved issues, and so on and so on.... enjoy mediocracy at its finest. :beatnik:

See… setting the facts to IGNORE, don’t make them go away.

AsylumGuido 05-26-2024 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 996404)
Has Trump ever missed a payment? All this fuss about nothing. Trump is the king of debt and he's running for the Presidency. Let's not make too much out of nothing. I've been late on bills before. Although, it wasn't millions of dollars.

They didn't "miss a payment". They withheld a payment demanding explanation of work being done.

Sinner 05-26-2024 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 996392)
.... and as i opine.... what a perfect setup for departure...construction payment issues, who pays who, and who is 100% responsible, followed by finger pointing, which leads to other unresolved issues, and so on and so on.... enjoy mediocracy at its finest. :beatnik:

Mis-management at the multi million dollar level, ultimately resulting in an inferior product, and customer dissatisfaction at its best. But we’re not supposed to b*tch and moan about it here.

AsylumGuido 05-26-2024 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 996377)
As they should have. When you have leverage to get things done, use it, especially if the other party is tardy. It's really the LSED and the State at the end of the day with the black eye, not surprisingly. With SB 2025 in the balance and clearly in front, pressure is on to have the renovations completed in time.

On a side note, the amounts and budget increases for the renovations seem excessive for an already built structure.

If anyone hasn't been in the Dome in the past couple of years you'd be shocked at how dramatic the renovations have been to date. Night and day different. You wouldn't even recognize the place. And this doesn't include the things that you and I can't see.

mapcow 05-26-2024 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 996449)
Mis-management at the multi million dollar level, ultimately resulting in an inferior product, and customer dissatisfaction at its best. But we’re not supposed to b*tch and moan about it here.

much easier to pay a mediocre team of NFL athletes and "has beens", as opposed to paying a team of elite NFL athletes.... and still sell out a stadium for fans to eyewitness firsthand, mediocracy. :beatnik:

Sinner 05-26-2024 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 996459)
If anyone hasn't been in the Dome in the past couple of years you'd be shocked at how dramatic the renovations have been to date. Night and day different. You wouldn't even recognize the place. And this doesn't include the things that you and I can't see.

Among the things that you and I can’t see in the Dome, is a championship team. But the toilets are cleaner for licking, so there’s that.

mapcow 05-26-2024 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 996447)
They didn't "miss a payment". They withheld a payment demanding explanation of work being done.

what does Trump have to do with any of this.... TDS big time. :beatnik:

Crusader 05-26-2024 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 996459)
If anyone hasn't been in the Dome in the past couple of years you'd be shocked at how dramatic the renovations have been to date. Night and day different. You wouldn't even recognize the place. And this doesn't include the things that you and I can't see.

It's been quite a buch of years now for me. I am really looking forward to going back but it looks like it won't be before 2025 thou.

AsylumGuido 05-26-2024 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 996471)
It's been quite a buch of years now for me. I am really looking forward to going back but it looks like it won't be before 2025 thou.

You really need to let me know when you come in next. We have to meet up before or after the game!

Rugby Saint II 05-26-2024 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 996470)
what does Trump have to do with any of this.... TDS big time. :beatnik:

When the self proclaimed "king of debt" misses a payment it's not news. Why is this news? That was my point. And as your nemesis Guido mentioned they are paying their bills but they are withholding payment for a good reason. They are demanding an explanation for why the cost of renovating the Dome is so very far over budget! Pick a better fight than that!

AsylumGuido 05-27-2024 10:29 AM

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mapcow 05-27-2024 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 996481)
When the self proclaimed "king of debt" misses a payment it's not news. Why is this news? That was my point. And as your nemesis Guido mentioned they are paying their bills but they are withholding payment for a good reason. They are demanding an explanation for why the cost of renovating the Dome is so very far over budget! Pick a better fight than that!

still..... Why mention Trump.... sour grapes on your part. Trump has NOTHING to do with the Saint's Organization. uh... as far as "guido" nemesis is not the adjective i would use. Think more anal like. oh... and not picking a fight, merely pointing out undisputed facts. :beatnik:

SmashMouth 05-28-2024 09:57 AM

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lee909 05-31-2024 09:24 PM

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The team should be paying for everything and should own its own stadium or rent from local government. No public money should ever go to a sports team, at least while there is any poverty,public works etc that needs sorting

Funny how all Sport teams owners would be very much opposed to any type of handouts until it adds to their own wealth or value of their sports teams.

WW_Who_Dat 06-01-2024 08:00 AM

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I counted 20 dates booked on the Domes schedule for the REMAINING 2024 CALENDAR YEAR, 11 not associated with the Saints. So after the Saints pay their annual lease payment, pay for the Dome upgrades I’m sure the City/State will share all the revenue generated with the Saints … Yeah that’s the ticket.

🤦*♂️

vpheughan 06-02-2024 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 996648)
The team should be paying for everything and should own its own stadium or rent from local government. No public money should ever go to a sports team, at least while there is any poverty,public works etc that needs sorting

Funny how all Sport teams owners would be very much opposed to any type of handouts until it adds to their own wealth or value of their sports teams.

The city of Indianapolis and people who live in surrounding counties (I live in one of those) are still paying a for Lucas Oil Stadium, which has been in operation for the last 13 years.

The massive stadium cost roughly $720 million to build, which is around $850 million in 2019 dollars, and in order to pay for it the city had to impose a few taxes, which includes a one-percent tax on several of the donut counties that surround Marion County. Within Marion County, a food and beverage tax along with cigarette and extra income taxes go toward paying for the stadium. The building will be 30-years-old by the time it’s supposed to be paid off in 2037.

This is so Robert Irsay can pay 2.5 million dollars for one of Ringo's drum kits!

AsylumGuido 06-02-2024 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat (Post 996649)
I counted 20 dates booked on the Domes schedule for the REMAINING 2024 CALENDAR YEAR, 11 not associated with the Saints. So after the Saints pay their annual lease payment, pay for the Dome upgrades I’m sure the City/State will share all the revenue generated with the Saints … Yeah that’s the ticket.

🤦*♂️

Yup. Not to mention, I've seen where a single Super Bowl can bring in anywhere between $300 million and $1.3 billion in local revenue for the host city and surrounding areas. Given the fact that Super Bowls can only be held at NFL host cities, New Orleans and the State of Louisiana would be standing to lose that amount once every six or seven years on average if they were to ever lose the Saints. Let's not forget just regular game revenue year to year.

The Superdome is a cash cow for the city and state and they know it.

mapcow 06-05-2024 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 996662)
Yup. Not to mention, I've seen where a single Super Bowl can bring in anywhere between $300 million and $1.3 billion in local revenue for the host city and surrounding areas. Given the fact that Super Bowls can only be held at NFL host cities, New Orleans and the State of Louisiana would be standing to lose that amount once every six or seven years on average if they were to ever lose the Saints. Let's not forget just regular game revenue year to year.

The Superdome is a cash cow for the city and state and they know it.

a cash cow for MS Benson. you mean.... to host a losing team! :beatnik:

Boston Saint 06-05-2024 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 996751)
a cash cow for MS Benson. you mean.... to host a losing team! :beatnik:

Saints are 63-36 under Gayle Benson’s tenure Map. How is that a losing team?

Sinner 06-05-2024 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 996759)
Saints are 63-36 under Gayle Benson’s tenure Map. How is that a losing team?

Stay tuned. You’ll see.

Boston Saint 06-05-2024 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 996760)
Stay tuned. You’ll see.

I know that is what you want. And when did your name become Map?

WW_Who_Dat 06-05-2024 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 996751)
a cash cow for MS Benson. you mean.... to host a losing team! :beatnik:

Not sure Saints history reflects this opinion;

Since 2002 when Mickey Loomis became Saints GM
Wins Losses Pct
203 152 .571%

Since 2006 …
Wins Losses Pct
175 116 .601%

6 Losing Seasons during the past 18 seasons.
5 under SP
1 under DA

38 seasons since 1967 thru 2005
Wins Losses Pct
225 322 .411%

Record prior to 2006 Season
27 Losing Seasons
6 8-8 Seasons
6 Winning Seasons

Just saying

Boston Saint 06-05-2024 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat (Post 996763)
Not sure Saints history reflects this opinion;

Since 2002 when Mickey Loomis became Saints GM
Wins Losses Pct
203 152 .571%

Since 2006 …
Wins Losses Pct
175 116 .601%

6 Losing Seasons during the past 18 seasons.
5 under SP
1 under DA

38 seasons since 1967 thru 2005
Wins Losses Pct
225 322 .411%

Record prior to 2006 Season
27 Losing Seasons
6 8-8 Seasons
6 Winning Seasons

Just saying

Some “fans” don’t let facts get in the way of a good rant.


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