AK IS PULLING AN MT, AND THEY WHEELIN JIMMY G IN TO PICK UP WHERE JUWAN DROPPED OFF…

leilung · 06-17-2024, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Everything I'm hearing is that Kamara wants to spend the rest of his career in New Orleans. He's wanting an extension to stay here long term, not necessarily more money.

And don't forget, almost all of these players have agents and these type of moves are fully orchestrated by those agents. Nothing personal.

So, he just wants an extension and it's not about more $$$? Not buying that, Guido. I mean, how does that even work anyway? By contractural logic, doesn't and extension naturally lead to greater salary consideration? Or are we really expected to believe that AK simply wants to 'retire' in NOLA and he's OK making his current bag?

Is that why he made a show of walking out of practice?

Sinner · 06-17-2024, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by leilung

So, he just wants an extension and it's not about more $$$? Not buying that, Guido. I mean, how does that even work anyway? By contractural logic, doesn't and extension naturally lead to greater salary consideration? Or are we really expected to believe that AK simply wants to 'retire' in NOLA and he's OK making his current bag?

Is that why he made a show of walking out of practice?

"Poo-poo smells just as bad as s#!%. One just SOUNDS cuter!"

WW_Who_Dat · 06-17-2024, 09:24 AM

Obviously some posturing going on weather it’s his agents doing, AK spur of the moment, doubtful, or a mix of the 2.

Should AK choose to hold out for the start of training camp he can be fine up to $50,000 a day for total of up $2 million if he misses all of training camp.

No doubt the Saints have an acceptable number in mind for an extension as does AK and his agent. Understandable that at this point of the negotiation that either side has made an acceptable offer or counter offer.

Typical fodder for the media and speculative narratives by everyone not in the know … IYKYK and you ain’t talking.

Is what it is … Be Happy don’t worry.

Rugby Saint II · 06-18-2024, 12:57 PM

There are lots of moving parts to this story.

We don't know what AK wants yet. Does he want an extension? More money? More guarantees? How far apart are the Saints and his agent? Who's idea was it to walk out after the walk through that morning? If there was going to be a contract dispute then why didn't he attend the offseason program to familiarize himself with the new scheme?

One more question is whose fault is it that AK has had unproductive seasons under Pete Carmichael? I'm thinking that AK worked just as hard as ever, kept in fantastic shape and was criminally underused by the Saints the last couple of years.

The Saints worked hard to downplay his suspension, but it did leave the team in a tough spot to start the season without him last year. But their patience might be wearing thin now.

voodooido · 06-19-2024, 10:18 AM

I would like to keep AK but I’m also not against trading him. If we could get a few picks I would pull the trigger. He is not irreplaceable

Boston Saint · 06-19-2024, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I'm thinking that AK worked just as hard as ever, kept in fantastic shape and was criminally underused by the Saints the last couple of years.

Two thoughts Rugs

Saint's aren't the ones in the relationship who deserve the description of "criminally".

It's fair to say misused, but not sure he was underused.

lee909 · 06-19-2024, 04:35 PM

I wouldn't even extend him on current terms
He is a aging RB who's numbers have dropped each year as his injuries have increased. Its not a position to have a player get old and on a high deal. I don't even agree with 1 high priced extension for a RB. Let them get old on someone else's dime

AsylumGuido · 06-19-2024, 04:59 PM

There is little to no doubt Kamara will get an extension and I'm sure we'll all end up liking the result in this new offense that features backs of his skillset. Any misconceived notion of a sizable drop off in his abilities is not considering the byproduct of Pete Carmichael's total ineptitude at play design and play calling.

AsylumGuido · 06-19-2024, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Two thoughts Rugs

Saint's aren't the ones in the relationship who deserve the description of "criminally".

It's fair to say misused, but not sure he was underused.

Both misused and underused, albeit they can be overlapping in definition.

AsylumGuido · 06-19-2024, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

There are lots of moving parts to this story.

We don't know what AK wants yet. Does he want an extension? More money? More guarantees? How far apart are the Saints and his agent? Who's idea was it to walk out after the walk through that morning? If there was going to be a contract dispute then why didn't he attend the offseason program to familiarize himself with the new scheme?

One more question is whose fault is it that AK has had unproductive seasons under Pete Carmichael? I'm thinking that AK worked just as hard as ever, kept in fantastic shape and was criminally underused by the Saints the last couple of years.

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leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,349	Re: AK IS PULLING AN MT, AND THEY WHEELIN JIMMY G IN TO PICK UP WHERE JUWAN DROPPED OFF… Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Everything I'm hearing is that Kamara wants to spend the rest of his career in New Orleans. He's wanting an extension to stay here long term, not necessarily more money. And don't forget, almost all of these players have agents and these type of moves are fully orchestrated by those agents. Nothing personal. So, he just wants an extension and it's not about more $$$? Not buying that, Guido. I mean, how does that even work anyway? By contractural logic, doesn't and extension naturally lead to greater salary consideration? Or are we really expected to believe that AK simply wants to 'retire' in NOLA and he's OK making his current bag? Is that why he made a show of walking out of practice? Sinner and bobdog86 like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,044	Re: AK IS PULLING AN MT, AND THEY WHEELIN JIMMY G IN TO PICK UP WHERE JUWAN DROPPED OFF… Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II There are lots of moving parts to this story. We don't know what AK wants yet. Does he want an extension? More money? More guarantees? How far apart are the Saints and his agent? Who's idea was it to walk out after the walk through that morning? If there was going to be a contract dispute then why didn't he attend the offseason program to familiarize himself with the new scheme? One more question is whose fault is it that AK has had unproductive seasons under Pete Carmichael? I'm thinking that AK worked just as hard as ever, kept in fantastic shape and was criminally underused by the Saints the last couple of years.