Official 2024 Training Camp Discussion

07-24-2024, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Probably his last... we'll see.

Still not bad for a guy SP didn't want to draft, among other LSU players.
Still don't understand why SP gave up on Al Woods.

This isn't the 1980's.

Players like Mathieu, Demario, and Cam train year round and are in better shape than ever. PFF has Mathieu ranked as their 10th best safety in the entire league for the 2024 season.

Sinner · 07-24-2024, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

This isn't the 1980's.

Players like Mathieu, Demario, and Cam train year round and are in better shape than ever. PFF has Mathieu ranked as their 10th best safety in the entire league for the 2024 season.

No. In the 80s there was hope ahead for a Championship Season, even if it came 30 years later. Here in 2024, we’re seriously looking at a slow and humiliating burn into total obscurity, and the inevitable death of a franchise and a whole culture. I don’t think you have any idea of what’s actually at stake here.

saintsfan1976 · 07-24-2024, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by Sinner

No. In the 80s there was hope ahead for a Championship Season, even if it came 30 years later. Here in 2024, we’re seriously looking at a slow and humiliating burn into total obscurity, and the inevitable death of a franchise and a whole culture. I don’t think you have any idea of what’s actually at stake here.

The first 6 games of 2024 should give us the answer.

Sinner · 07-24-2024, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

The first 6 games of 2024 should give us the answer.

The last two seasons have given us the answer.

saintsfan1976 · 07-24-2024, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by Sinner

The last two seasons have given us the answer.

The best indicator of future performance is past performance. I get why you're down on the likelihood of a winning season.

Fortunately the franchise made changes. TBD if they were enough to succeed.

Our only choice is to wait and see how they pan out.

K Major · 07-24-2024, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by Sinner

The last two seasons have given us the answer.

Hurts, Dak, Hebert, Cousins & Baker TWICE & of course the league MVP.

That pass rush better be good.

Sinner · 07-24-2024, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

The best indicator of future performance is past performance. I get why you're down on the likelihood of a winning season.

Fortunately the franchise made changes. TBD if they were enough to succeed.

Our only choice is to wait and see how they pan out.

We have a lame HEAD COACH, and a throwaway DUD for a Quarterback. The franchise made changes to the window dressing in a building that has no electricity.

AsylumGuido · 07-24-2024, 12:18 PM

SaintFanInATLHELL · 07-24-2024, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by mapcow

...and that's a good thing?!

Open question. There's a lot of variables going on with Kamara right now:

1. Is he going to insist on new money? It's a tough decision to add new money to a soon to be 30 year old back that is more than 2 years from a really solid season.

2. How does he fit in Kubiak's system. It's unclear how that's going to go.

I hope the strategy that everyone can agree on is to extend the time, but no new money. I'm not sure it can be done.

The Saints smart play is to hold the line on any new money and if they can't come to an agreement, then just let Kamara's current contract run it's course.

I guess we will see.

SFIAH

SaintFanInATLHELL · 07-24-2024, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

The first 6 games of 2024 should give us the answer.

Absolutely. 4-2 with 3 division wins and an upset sets the team up pretty good. 1-5 and looking bad in the process sinks the season. I'm still evaluating 3-3 with 3 division wins.

SFAIH

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07-24-2024, 09:27 AM	#72
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,873	Re: Official 2024 Training Camp Discussion Originally Posted by AsylumGuido This isn't the 1980's. Players like Mathieu, Demario, and Cam train year round and are in better shape than ever. PFF has Mathieu ranked as their 10th best safety in the entire league for the 2024 season. No. In the 80s there was hope ahead for a Championship Season, even if it came 30 years later. Here in 2024, we’re seriously looking at a slow and humiliating burn into total obscurity, and the inevitable death of a franchise and a whole culture. I don’t think you have any idea of what’s actually at stake here.
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07-24-2024, 10:28 AM	#73
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Official 2024 Training Camp Discussion Originally Posted by Sinner No. In the 80s there was hope ahead for a Championship Season, even if it came 30 years later. Here in 2024, we’re seriously looking at a slow and humiliating burn into total obscurity, and the inevitable death of a franchise and a whole culture. I don’t think you have any idea of what’s actually at stake here. The first 6 games of 2024 should give us the answer. SaintFanInATLHELL likes this.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,873	Re: Official 2024 Training Camp Discussion Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 The first 6 games of 2024 should give us the answer. The last two seasons have given us the answer.
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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Official 2024 Training Camp Discussion Originally Posted by Sinner The last two seasons have given us the answer. The best indicator of future performance is past performance. I get why you're down on the likelihood of a winning season. Fortunately the franchise made changes. TBD if they were enough to succeed. Our only choice is to wait and see how they pan out.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,873	Re: Official 2024 Training Camp Discussion Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 The best indicator of future performance is past performance. I get why you're down on the likelihood of a winning season. Fortunately the franchise made changes. TBD if they were enough to succeed. Our only choice is to wait and see how they pan out. We have a lame HEAD COACH, and a throwaway DUD for a Quarterback. The franchise made changes to the window dressing in a building that has no electricity.
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07-24-2024, 01:10 PM	#79
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Official 2024 Training Camp Discussion Originally Posted by mapcow ...and that's a good thing?! Open question. There's a lot of variables going on with Kamara right now: 1. Is he going to insist on new money? It's a tough decision to add new money to a soon to be 30 year old back that is more than 2 years from a really solid season. 2. How does he fit in Kubiak's system. It's unclear how that's going to go. I hope the strategy that everyone can agree on is to extend the time, but no new money. I'm not sure it can be done. The Saints smart play is to hold the line on any new money and if they can't come to an agreement, then just let Kamara's current contract run it's course. I guess we will see. SFIAH saintsfan1976 likes this.
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07-24-2024, 01:13 PM	#80
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Official 2024 Training Camp Discussion Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 The first 6 games of 2024 should give us the answer. Absolutely. 4-2 with 3 division wins and an upset sets the team up pretty good. 1-5 and looking bad in the process sinks the season. I'm still evaluating 3-3 with 3 division wins. SFAIH