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SaintFanInATLHELL 07-16-2024 09:50 PM

The 2024 Sunshine Oasis: Positive Saints Talk Only
 
Let's see if we can have one spot on this board where we can talk about the upcoming season in a positive light without being heckled by the doom and gloomers on the board. It's a restart of the the "Reasons to be Positive" thread, which now is a 30 page plus barren wasteland.

So my first question: What camp battles are you looking forward to?

SFIAH

rezburna 07-16-2024 11:16 PM

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Miller vs Williams for RB2

BakoSaint 07-16-2024 11:52 PM

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Lattimore vs Adebo vs Taylor vs Koolaid for starting corners. I think any could start.

TE I think any could start.

RT I see as wide open if Ram is not healthy. It would be great if Ram is healthy. If not, starter may not currently be on our roster, but thats not a bad thing to find a value late in the offseason.

Backup QB will be interesting.

I hope we have competition at punter.

DE rotation will be interesting.

I would like to see Bresee win a starting gig at DT. If Bresee takes a step forward, starts, and is able to sustain a high rate of pressures while being respectable against the run, that potentially helps the team more than any other player.

I hope this is positive enough in light of the question. Maybe I am harsh at RT but the Saints have found useful players from other teams cuts in the past, like Taysom Hill, so if our next find could be a RT that would be great.

leilung 07-17-2024 06:17 AM

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Penning vs. The Critics

Boom or Bust this year. If he can find his way to better play in a position not LT.

mapcow 07-17-2024 10:21 AM

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Broncos and Saints :beatnik: errr.... my bad, after camp.

iceshack149 07-17-2024 11:11 AM

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I think that this might be a redshirt year for Bub Means but I'd like to see him and/or A.T. Perry make a splash.
I don't see Smoke Monday on the official site so I worry that he didn't pan out.

BakoSaint 07-17-2024 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 997665)
Miller vs Williams for RB2

While Williams may be the safer bet, I think its definitely in Saints fans interests if the younger, less costly, and potentially more explosive player is able to rise to the top. So nothing personal against Williams, but I will be rooting for Miller to take the job with strong performances.

AsylumGuido 07-17-2024 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 997675)
While Williams may be the safer bet, I think its definitely in Saints fans interests if the younger, less costly, and potentially more explosive player is able to rise to the top. So nothing personal against Williams, but I will be rooting for Miller to take the job with strong performances.

I think we saw in Miller that he can and will step up in that last game against the Failclowns. Thirteen carries for 73 yards (5.62 ypc) and a TD are some really solid numbers. Kubiak has also mentioned that he sees Miller's skillset as a perfect fit in the new offense being introduced. I think Kubiak was also referring to the 10 catches on 11 targets by Miller.

That said, Williams had some pretty solid receiving numbers himself with 18 catches in 20 targets. He was the only player on the roster with seven or more targets that didn't drop a single ball thrown his way.

cmike 07-17-2024 12:50 PM

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I’d love to see Shaheed get more targets. His hands are elite.

mapcow 07-17-2024 06:19 PM

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sure are a lot of positive vibes going on here. :beatnik:

Cruize 07-19-2024 08:08 AM

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They are undefeated and injuries are at a minimum. :)

AsylumGuido 07-19-2024 03:57 PM

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Number one on the list is pretty obvious!


mapcow 07-19-2024 04:50 PM

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Alvin Kamara not reporting to camp and holding out. :beatnik:

mapcow 07-19-2024 05:25 PM

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Chris Simms Ranks D Carr @ 22....awesome! :beatnik:

AsylumGuido 07-19-2024 05:46 PM

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Older, but better.


mapcow 07-19-2024 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 997773)

unfortunately. Slower too. The Badger don't hit like he used to, and Davis will ...well, his ability is yet to be displayed. I will wait for the season before opining. :beatnik:

Rugby Saint II 07-20-2024 03:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 997689)
sure are a lot of positive vibes going on here. :beatnik:

I know. It's crazy. Right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 997775)
unfortunately. Slower too. The Badger don't hit like he used to, and Davis will ...well, his ability is yet to be displayed. I will wait for the season before opining. :beatnik:

Well, that didn't take long.....:bugeyes:

AsylumGuido 07-20-2024 05:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 997785)
I know. It's crazy. Right?



Well, that didn't take long.....:bugeyes:

Haters gonna hate. Even in a designated positive only thread. Sad.

BakoSaint 07-20-2024 05:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 997765)
Number one on the list is pretty obvious!

https://twitter.com/TheSaintsWire/st...91225203474914

I would put Fuaga as #1 and I think its not obvious which will contribute more. Fuaga cost more cash and assets. He could be on the team a decade or more. If Kubiak is moderately successful he will be gone in a year or two. Fuaga can succeed regardless of whether Kubiak does. If Fuaga becomes the next Roaf or Armstead and Kubiak becomes the next Mike McCarthy or Kyle Shannahan, nobody will look back and call Kubiak the key addition.

I am
Trying tostay positive and say positive things. I am excited about Fuaga.

SaintFanInATLHELL 07-20-2024 05:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 997785)
I know. It's crazy. Right?



Well, that didn't take long.....:bugeyes:

No, unfortunately it didn't.

I made a specific request to Sinner to stay out of this thread. He has honored that request and I am very appreciative that he has done so.

My request did not specifically extend to the Cow. I am hoping that he will keep the tone down. So, until now I've left it alone. And for now I suggest that everyone else do the same.

If it gets out of hand, I'll address it.

So, for now folks let's just keep the positive vibes going. Rookies have already reported. Everyone will be in on Tuesday. Let's see how quickly things can come together so that the Saints in 2024 can make an impact by doing 2 things:

1. Winning the first 3 division games in the first 6 weeks.
2. Finding a way to upset Dallas or Philly.

That would at minimum have us 4-2 after 6 weeks and 3-0 in the division. That's a setup for making some noise this season.

SFIAH

SaintFanInATLHELL 07-20-2024 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 997789)
Haters gonna hate. Even in a designated positive only thread. Sad.

Guido, this is the easiest way to start steering a thread left. Let's for now just let it go without comment, please. I've made my one public statement on the issue. I do not plan to speak on it again here.

A spin on my initial question: What are you looking most forward to in camp when it starts next week?

SFIAH

SaintFanInATLHELL 07-20-2024 06:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 997747)
They are undefeated and injuries are at a minimum. :)

Undefeated over what time frame? The preseason?

Definitely agree that I hope that injuries get under control this season.

SFIAH

AsylumGuido 07-20-2024 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 997792)
Guido, this is the easiest way to start steering a thread left. Let's for now just let it go without comment, please. I've made my one public statement on the issue. I do not plan to speak on it again here.

A spin on my initial question: What are you looking most forward to in camp when it starts next week?

SFIAH

My bad. I'll not dip to that level again.

mapcow 07-21-2024 09:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 997789)
Haters gonna hate. Even in a designated positive only thread. Sad.

No hate... just factual. :beatnik:

mapcow 07-21-2024 09:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 997794)
My bad. I'll not dip to that level again.


too late. :beatnik:

AsylumGuido 07-22-2024 08:04 AM

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AsylumGuido 07-22-2024 08:09 AM

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A healthy Payton Turner is indeed positive news! Now if Foskey's off-season work on technique comes through DE may end up being a major strength for the 2024 Saints.


turbo_dog 07-22-2024 01:33 PM

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Curious to see how the run game looks under Kubiak. I was a big fan when his dad was in Denver and how much he got out of the RB position, even from players who were not thought of as potentially great.

Other than Davis and Werner, do we have any linebackers? Willie Gay is a question mark still. Seriously, do we have any others?

OL - who plays where, and can they stay healthy?

Very excited to see the WR battle in camp and pre-season. There's a chance this could be the best position group on the team and perhaps the best group in the history of the Saints.

AsylumGuido 07-22-2024 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by turbo_dog (Post 997849)
Curious to see how the run game looks under Kubiak. I was a big fan when his dad was in Denver and how much he got out of the RB position, even from players who were not thought of as potentially great.

Other than Davis and Werner, do we have any linebackers? Willie Gay is a question mark still. Seriously, do we have any others?

OL - who plays where, and can they stay healthy?

Very excited to see the WR battle in camp and pre-season. There's a chance this could be the best position group on the team and perhaps the best group in the history of the Saints.

PFF ranks Willie Gay as the 31st best LB in the league for 2024. Demario Davis is #3, of course. We're the only team in the league with two in the top 32.

Our whole staff at this point are as follows ...

WLB20Werner, Pete 21/245Sewell, Nephi PUP52Jackson, D'Marco 22/544Stalbird, Isaiah CF24  
MLB56DAVIS, DEMARIO U/NYJ53Ford, Jaylan 24/558Orji, Anfernee CF23    
SLB6Gay, Willie U/KC47Hudson, Khaleke U/Was59Rice, Monty W/Ten    

I know the team is really high on both Orji and the 5th round selection, Jaylon Ford.

AsylumGuido 07-22-2024 03:16 PM

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For anyone concerned about Dennis Allen doing the same things over and over ...

How suddenly 'cool' Saints coach Dennis Allen is hoping to change himself – and the Saints


When training camp begins Wednesday in Irvine, California, Allen will look to build upon the camaraderie that he has spent so much of the last few months establishing with players. In a season that’s setting up to be crucial for his job security, Allen told the Times-Picayune he determined the Saints needed “significant change.” That change was headlined by a new offensive staff, but the full extent of Allen’s vision went deeper.

If the Saints needed to change, Allen needed to change with them. The messages players heard for years from the no-nonsense, defensive-minded teacher had to be presented differently.

No matter how much it takes them by surprise.

“You could tell guys in the room, they’re like, 'DA is cool now,' ” safety Tyrann Mathieu said.

...

Then this year, Allen scrapped most of his offensive staff. Out went Pete Carmichael and in came Klint Kubiak.

“Continuity is important,” Allen said. “But continuity is only important if you’re continuing to get the results you’re looking for.

“To have continuity and not have the results is insanity.”

Much more here ...

mapcow 07-23-2024 10:00 AM

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https://www.bing.com/videos/rivervie...E41&ajaxhist=0


Training Camp Starts!!! :beatnik: ..Let The Sunshine....

Rugby Saint II 07-23-2024 04:57 PM

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Here we go boys!

AsylumGuido 07-23-2024 05:51 PM

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AsylumGuido 07-23-2024 05:52 PM

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Sinner 07-23-2024 06:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 997916)


turbo_dog 07-23-2024 07:17 PM

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https://youtu.be/X7ZIA41yfF4?si=AgBl832Jdx90r-vM

turbo_dog 07-23-2024 07:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 997851)
PFF ranks Willie Gay as the 31st best LB in the league for 2024. Demario Davis is #3, of course. We're the only team in the league with two in the top 32.

Our whole staff at this point are as follows ...

WLB20Werner, Pete 21/245Sewell, Nephi PUP52Jackson, D'Marco 22/544Stalbird, Isaiah CF24  
MLB56DAVIS, DEMARIO U/NYJ53Ford, Jaylan 24/558Orji, Anfernee CF23    
SLB6Gay, Willie U/KC47Hudson, Khaleke U/Was59Rice, Monty W/Ten    

I know the team is really high on both Orji and the 5th round selection, Jaylon Ford.

Thank you for giving me all the players on the current roster in LB spots. I will say after looking for more info on the subject, there is a variety of opinions. One such is this article, which describes Gay as a "new Zach Baun". That doesn't sound entirely promising to me. I hope, as I do each year, that one of these underrated prospects becomes a bottle rocket. I just have some doubts.

turbo_dog 07-23-2024 07:42 PM

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https://www.si.com/nfl/saints/news/s...inebacker-spot

K Major 07-24-2024 04:02 AM

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Willie Gay is > than Zach Baun & I don’t even think it’s close.

Keep an eye on Gay vs Pete Werner @ camp.

saintsfan1976 07-24-2024 07:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 997933)
Willie Gay is > than Zach Baun & I don’t even think it’s close.

Keep an eye on Gay vs Pete Werner @ camp.

TE cheat code.


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