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mapcow 08-03-2024 10:47 AM

Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE?
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 998569)
I jumped all over that 7.5 wins.

how do you win .5 game. that still equates to a loss. weird. :beatnik:

Sinner 08-03-2024 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 998567)
To be fair, I really can't really form an opinion if Dennis Allen is a good head coach or not. That roster is not very strong or deep, and the salary cap situation isn't going to allow for a quick fix anytime soon. Kubiak is going to bring some very needed changes to the offensive, but with Carr at QB and a shaky o-line, I am not expecting any miracles.

As a fan it is my hope the Saints win 10 plus games and have at least a good playoff run. Realistically, the Saints come into the season with a win expectation of 7.5, if I was forced to bet my life savings I would have to take the under on that. The real question becomes what happens to Dennis Allen either way? Of course if the Saints win 10 he isn't going anywhere. What about 8 or 9 wins, or what happens if it's 5, 6 or 7 wins, does he keep his job or gets fired?

If the last two seasons is any indication, with a GM that says, “We have all the right people in the building”, an Owner who’s partying like it’s 2010, and fans like Quido who are happy to jump all over the Mediocrity Train, possibly for the rest of his life, we’ll see more of the same.

K Major 08-03-2024 10:50 AM

Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE?
 
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Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 998567)
What about 8 or 9 wins, or what happens if it's 5, 6 or 7 wins, does he keep his job or gets fired?

Anything short of a post season appearance, L.D. Bell should be fired.

His career HC record is 24-46 (.343).

mapcow 08-03-2024 10:50 AM

Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE?
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 998568)

:nono2: watch out! :beatnik:

stickman 08-03-2024 12:33 PM

Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE?
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 998568)

Anyone else really enjoy the fact that despite his horrible overall record, he has a winning record against the Falcons?

mapcow 08-03-2024 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by stickman (Post 998575)
Anyone else really enjoy the fact that despite his horrible overall record, he has a winning record against the Falcons?

not really. falcons are worse than the Saints... no too impressive to beat the underdog consistently.... AK should know about that;). :beatnik:

Sinner 08-03-2024 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by stickman (Post 998575)
Anyone else really enjoy the fact that despite his horrible overall record, he has a winning record against the Falcons?

Yeah no. I definitely don’t sit through lackluster seasons in anticipation of just (possibly) beating the Falcons.

Rugby Saint II 08-03-2024 06:40 PM

Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE?
 
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Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 998564)
ouch... Biden whispering to the crowd comes to mind. nasty and creepy. :beatnik:

Please, let's not bring politics in here. We have a message board for that. Thanks.

mapcow 08-03-2024 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 998589)
Please, let's not bring politics in here. We have a message board for that. Thanks.

just painting a visual... you made it political :beatnik:

SaintFanInATLHELL 08-04-2024 01:58 AM

Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE?
 
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Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 998570)
how do you win .5 game. that still equates to a loss. weird. :beatnik:

It's called a tie. A tie is a half win/half loss. You can see it if you look at winning percentage for a season for a team.

The last tie in the NFL was Giants/Commanders in 2022. The Commanders finished 8-8-1 with a even .500 record. The Saints last year were 9-8 with a .529 winning percentage, and the Succs in 2022 were 8-9 with a .471 winning percentage. Since 8-8-1 is bracketed between the two, the tie counts for half a win.

And it's made a difference too. The Steelers in 2021 were 9-7-1. Because of the tie, they took the last playoff spot over the Dolphins and the Colts who both finished 9-8. Those two finished with a .529 winning percentage while the Steelers finish with a .559.

So a team that's 7-9-1 would have 7.5 wins.

SFIAH


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