IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE?

Sinner · 08-01-2024, 10:20 AM

D.A. on Taysom Hill: "He's gonna do a lot of stuff. He's gonna run routes from in line, out wide, out of the backfield, he's going to block, he's going to run the ball out of the backfield, I think he's going to do a lot of stuff. He's going to line up at the QUARTERBACK position at some point in time…”

As much as I love watching Taysom Hill whenever and where ever he is on the field, the swiss army knife is being used (and abused) to compensate for shortcomings and inconsistencies in areas that we are simply inable or unwilling to address and solidify. At best, if you want to continue to use him as a “Secret Weapon”, best not to announce it to everyone beforehand, but D.A. will never be mistaken for someone who has read Sun Tzu.

He’s basically telling us that he’s not sure of our identity as a team. And he’s barely smart enough to know that Carr is “Meh”… and that we lack direction and development in the many areas that he is mismanaging. He’s willing to announce that he’ll throw possibly the most passionate and dedicated player to ever wear a Saints uniform under many buses if need be, to compensate for our lack of identity and focus. Taysom Hill is no young spring chicken anymore, and I’d hate to see him get hurt after being used and abused by an absolutely inept excuse for a Head Coach.

mapcow · 08-01-2024, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by Sinner

D.A. on Taysom Hill: "He's gonna do a lot of stuff. He's gonna run routes from in line, out wide, out of the backfield, he's going to block, he's going to run the ball out of the backfield, I think he's going to do a lot of stuff. He's going to line up at the QUARTERBACK position at some point in time…”

As much as I love watching Taysom Hill whenever and where ever he is on the field, the swiss army knife is being used (and abused) to compensate for shortcomings and inconsistencies in areas that we are simply inable or unwilling to address and solidify. At best, if you want to continue to use him as a “Secret Weapon”, best not to announce it to everyone beforehand, but D.A. will never be mistaken for someone who has read Sun Tzu.

He’s basically telling us that he’s not sure of our identity as a team. And he’s barely smart enough to know that Carr is “Meh”… and that we lack direction and development in the many areas that he is mismanaging. He’s willing to announce that he’ll throw possibly the most passionate and dedicated player to ever wear a Saints uniform under many buses if need be, to compensate for our lack of identity and focus. Taysom Hill is no young spring chicken anymore, and I’d hate to see him get hurt after being used and abused by an absolutely inept excuse for a Head Coach.

TRUTH!!

MatthewT · 08-01-2024, 10:27 AM

Hill should be nothing more than a 5 touch a game guy when there is contact involved. Yes, Hill can dominate a game but when this is done he becomes very ineffective for long stretches. Kamara is pretty much in the same boat, for him maybe 10 to 15 touch max when contact is involved. Trying to continue using Hill and Kamara to carry the offense is going to make for a very long season.

mapcow · 08-01-2024, 10:36 AM

Play calling will be so predictable... just like back in the day when all the Saints did was, big dude right, then big dude left, then maybe pass, then punt.... BORING

saintsfan1976 · 08-02-2024, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

D.A. on Taysom Hill: "He's gonna do a lot of stuff. He's gonna run routes from in line, out wide, out of the backfield, he's going to block, he's going to run the ball out of the backfield, I think he's going to do a lot of stuff. He's going to line up at the QUARTERBACK position at some point in time…”

As much as I love watching Taysom Hill whenever and where ever he is on the field, the swiss army knife is being used (and abused) to compensate for shortcomings and inconsistencies in areas that we are simply inable or unwilling to address and solidify. At best, if you want to continue to use him as a “Secret Weapon”, best not to announce it to everyone beforehand, but D.A. will never be mistaken for someone who has read Sun Tzu.

He’s basically telling us that he’s not sure of our identity as a team. And he’s barely smart enough to know that Carr is “Meh”… and that we lack direction and development in the many areas that he is mismanaging. He’s willing to announce that he’ll throw possibly the most passionate and dedicated player to ever wear a Saints uniform under many buses if need be, to compensate for our lack of identity and focus. Taysom Hill is no young spring chicken anymore, and I’d hate to see him get hurt after being used and abused by an absolutely inept excuse for a Head Coach.

Taysom is a matchup nightmare for some LBs and most CB, Safeties.

Why does having a "jack of all trades" especially when a matchup dictates OR injuries occur, mean the offense doesn't have an identity?

jnormand · 08-02-2024, 02:55 PM

I’m pretty sure Hill wants and will take as many snaps as he can get. Regardless of position. He’s a football player. He wants to play. As long as he can produce, allow him the opportunities to produce.

I’m confused why this is an issue of topic. The player wants to play. If he can be a difference maker, it’s a win. Good grief.

papz · 08-02-2024, 03:36 PM

I'm going to tell some of you guys a little secret... just don't go telling everyone just yet. We hired a new offensive coordinator this off season.

Sinner · 08-02-2024, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by papz

I'm going to tell some of you guys a little secret... just don't go telling everyone just yet. We hired a new offensive coordinator this off season.

If Kubiak shuffles the cards just favorable enough for us to make .500, and Dennis Allen gets to flex his line lips barely loud enough to keep his job, and Derek Carr gets to be Derek Carr for yet another year, I guess we can blame our mediocrity on injuries again?

Sinner · 08-02-2024, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Taysom is a matchup nightmare for some LBs and most CB, Safeties.

Why does having a "jack of all trades" especially when a matchup dictates OR injuries occur, mean the offense doesn't have an identity?

Map says, “Play calling will be so predictable... just like back in the day when all the Saints did was, big dude right, then big dude left, then maybe pass, then punt.... BORING.”

Sinner · 08-02-2024, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

I’m pretty sure Hill wants and will take as many snaps as he can get. Regardless of position. He’s a football player. He wants to play. As long as he can produce, allow him the opportunities to produce.

I’m confused why this is an issue of topic. The player wants to play. If he can be a difference maker, it’s a win. Good grief.

Matthew says, “Hill should be nothing more than a 5 touch a game guy when there is contact involved. Yes, Hill can dominate a game but when this is done he becomes very ineffective for long stretches. Kamara is pretty much in the same boat, for him maybe 10 to 15 touch max when contact is involved. Trying to continue using Hill and Kamara to carry the offense is going to make for a very long season.”

08-01-2024, 10:20 AM	#1
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,873	IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE? D.A. on Taysom Hill: "He's gonna do a lot of stuff. He's gonna run routes from in line, out wide, out of the backfield, he's going to block, he's going to run the ball out of the backfield, I think he's going to do a lot of stuff. He's going to line up at the QUARTERBACK position at some point in time…” As much as I love watching Taysom Hill whenever and where ever he is on the field, the swiss army knife is being used (and abused) to compensate for shortcomings and inconsistencies in areas that we are simply inable or unwilling to address and solidify. At best, if you want to continue to use him as a “Secret Weapon”, best not to announce it to everyone beforehand, but D.A. will never be mistaken for someone who has read Sun Tzu. He’s basically telling us that he’s not sure of our identity as a team. And he’s barely smart enough to know that Carr is “Meh”… and that we lack direction and development in the many areas that he is mismanaging. He’s willing to announce that he’ll throw possibly the most passionate and dedicated player to ever wear a Saints uniform under many buses if need be, to compensate for our lack of identity and focus. Taysom Hill is no young spring chicken anymore, and I’d hate to see him get hurt after being used and abused by an absolutely inept excuse for a Head Coach. MatthewT likes this.
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08-01-2024, 10:25 AM	#2
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,753	Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE? Originally Posted by Sinner D.A. on Taysom Hill: "He's gonna do a lot of stuff. He's gonna run routes from in line, out wide, out of the backfield, he's going to block, he's going to run the ball out of the backfield, I think he's going to do a lot of stuff. He's going to line up at the QUARTERBACK position at some point in time…” As much as I love watching Taysom Hill whenever and where ever he is on the field, the swiss army knife is being used (and abused) to compensate for shortcomings and inconsistencies in areas that we are simply inable or unwilling to address and solidify. At best, if you want to continue to use him as a “Secret Weapon”, best not to announce it to everyone beforehand, but D.A. will never be mistaken for someone who has read Sun Tzu. He’s basically telling us that he’s not sure of our identity as a team. And he’s barely smart enough to know that Carr is “Meh”… and that we lack direction and development in the many areas that he is mismanaging. He’s willing to announce that he’ll throw possibly the most passionate and dedicated player to ever wear a Saints uniform under many buses if need be, to compensate for our lack of identity and focus. Taysom Hill is no young spring chicken anymore, and I’d hate to see him get hurt after being used and abused by an absolutely inept excuse for a Head Coach. TRUTH!! Sinner likes this.
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08-01-2024, 10:27 AM	#3
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE? Hill should be nothing more than a 5 touch a game guy when there is contact involved. Yes, Hill can dominate a game but when this is done he becomes very ineffective for long stretches. Kamara is pretty much in the same boat, for him maybe 10 to 15 touch max when contact is involved. Trying to continue using Hill and Kamara to carry the offense is going to make for a very long season. mapcow and Sinner like this.

08-01-2024, 10:36 AM	#4
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,753	Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE? Play calling will be so predictable... just like back in the day when all the Saints did was, big dude right, then big dude left, then maybe pass, then punt.... BORING MatthewT and Sinner like this.
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08-02-2024, 01:17 PM	#5
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE? Originally Posted by Sinner D.A. on Taysom Hill: "He's gonna do a lot of stuff. He's gonna run routes from in line, out wide, out of the backfield, he's going to block, he's going to run the ball out of the backfield, I think he's going to do a lot of stuff. He's going to line up at the QUARTERBACK position at some point in time…” As much as I love watching Taysom Hill whenever and where ever he is on the field, the swiss army knife is being used (and abused) to compensate for shortcomings and inconsistencies in areas that we are simply inable or unwilling to address and solidify. At best, if you want to continue to use him as a “Secret Weapon”, best not to announce it to everyone beforehand, but D.A. will never be mistaken for someone who has read Sun Tzu. He’s basically telling us that he’s not sure of our identity as a team. And he’s barely smart enough to know that Carr is “Meh”… and that we lack direction and development in the many areas that he is mismanaging. He’s willing to announce that he’ll throw possibly the most passionate and dedicated player to ever wear a Saints uniform under many buses if need be, to compensate for our lack of identity and focus. Taysom Hill is no young spring chicken anymore, and I’d hate to see him get hurt after being used and abused by an absolutely inept excuse for a Head Coach. Taysom is a matchup nightmare for some LBs and most CB, Safeties. Why does having a "jack of all trades" especially when a matchup dictates OR injuries occur, mean the offense doesn't have an identity? Rugby Saint II likes this.

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08-02-2024, 02:55 PM	#6
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,660	Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE? I’m pretty sure Hill wants and will take as many snaps as he can get. Regardless of position. He’s a football player. He wants to play. As long as he can produce, allow him the opportunities to produce. I’m confused why this is an issue of topic. The player wants to play. If he can be a difference maker, it’s a win. Good grief. Rugby Saint II and jlouhill like this.

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papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE? I'm going to tell some of you guys a little secret... just don't go telling everyone just yet. We hired a new offensive coordinator this off season. SaintFanInATLHELL, AsylumGuido, Rugby Saint II and 2 others like this.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,873	Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE? Originally Posted by papz I'm going to tell some of you guys a little secret... just don't go telling everyone just yet. We hired a new offensive coordinator this off season. If Kubiak shuffles the cards just favorable enough for us to make .500, and Dennis Allen gets to flex his line lips barely loud enough to keep his job, and Derek Carr gets to be Derek Carr for yet another year, I guess we can blame our mediocrity on injuries again?
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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,873	Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Taysom is a matchup nightmare for some LBs and most CB, Safeties. Why does having a "jack of all trades" especially when a matchup dictates OR injuries occur, mean the offense doesn't have an identity? Map says, “Play calling will be so predictable... just like back in the day when all the Saints did was, big dude right, then big dude left, then maybe pass, then punt.... BORING.”
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08-02-2024, 04:05 PM	#10
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,873	Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE? Originally Posted by jnormand I’m pretty sure Hill wants and will take as many snaps as he can get. Regardless of position. He’s a football player. He wants to play. As long as he can produce, allow him the opportunities to produce. I’m confused why this is an issue of topic. The player wants to play. If he can be a difference maker, it’s a win. Good grief. Matthew says, “Hill should be nothing more than a 5 touch a game guy when there is contact involved. Yes, Hill can dominate a game but when this is done he becomes very ineffective for long stretches. Kamara is pretty much in the same boat, for him maybe 10 to 15 touch max when contact is involved. Trying to continue using Hill and Kamara to carry the offense is going to make for a very long season.”
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