IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE?

MatthewT · 08-03-2024, 08:44 AM

To be fair, I really can't really form an opinion if Dennis Allen is a good head coach or not. That roster is not very strong or deep, and the salary cap situation isn't going to allow for a quick fix anytime soon. Kubiak is going to bring some very needed changes to the offensive, but with Carr at QB and a shaky o-line, I am not expecting any miracles.

As a fan it is my hope the Saints win 10 plus games and have at least a good playoff run. Realistically, the Saints come into the season with a win expectation of 7.5, if I was forced to bet my life savings I would have to take the under on that. The real question becomes what happens to Dennis Allen either way? Of course if the Saints win 10 he isn't going anywhere. What about 8 or 9 wins, or what happens if it's 5, 6 or 7 wins, does he keep his job or gets fired?

AsylumGuido · 08-03-2024, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

To be fair, I really can't really form an opinion if Dennis Allen is a good head coach or not. That roster is not very strong or deep, and the salary cap situation isn't going to allow for a quick fix anytime soon. Kubiak is going to bring some very needed changes to the offensive, but with Carr at QB and a shaky o-line, I am not expecting any miracles.

As a fan it is my hope the Saints win 10 plus games and have at least a good playoff run. Realistically, the Saints come into the season with a win expectation of 7.5, if I was forced to bet my life savings I would have to take the under on that. The real question becomes what happens to Dennis Allen either way? Of course if the Saints win 10 he isn't going anywhere. What about 8 or 9 wins, or what happens if it's 5, 6 or 7 wins, does he keep his job or gets fired?

I jumped all over that 7.5 wins.

mapcow · 08-03-2024, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I jumped all over that 7.5 wins.

how do you win .5 game. that still equates to a loss. weird.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 08-04-2024, 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by mapcow

how do you win .5 game. that still equates to a loss. weird.

It's called a tie. A tie is a half win/half loss. You can see it if you look at winning percentage for a season for a team.

The last tie in the NFL was Giants/Commanders in 2022. The Commanders finished 8-8-1 with a even .500 record. The Saints last year were 9-8 with a .529 winning percentage, and the Succs in 2022 were 8-9 with a .471 winning percentage. Since 8-8-1 is bracketed between the two, the tie counts for half a win.

And it's made a difference too. The Steelers in 2021 were 9-7-1. Because of the tie, they took the last playoff spot over the Dolphins and the Colts who both finished 9-8. Those two finished with a .529 winning percentage while the Steelers finish with a .559.

So a team that's 7-9-1 would have 7.5 wins.

SFIAH

Sinner · 08-03-2024, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

To be fair, I really can't really form an opinion if Dennis Allen is a good head coach or not. That roster is not very strong or deep, and the salary cap situation isn't going to allow for a quick fix anytime soon. Kubiak is going to bring some very needed changes to the offensive, but with Carr at QB and a shaky o-line, I am not expecting any miracles.

As a fan it is my hope the Saints win 10 plus games and have at least a good playoff run. Realistically, the Saints come into the season with a win expectation of 7.5, if I was forced to bet my life savings I would have to take the under on that. The real question becomes what happens to Dennis Allen either way? Of course if the Saints win 10 he isn't going anywhere. What about 8 or 9 wins, or what happens if it's 5, 6 or 7 wins, does he keep his job or gets fired?

If the last two seasons is any indication, with a GM that says, “We have all the right people in the building”, an Owner who’s partying like it’s 2010, and fans like Quido who are happy to jump all over the Mediocrity Train, possibly for the rest of his life, we’ll see more of the same.

Rugby Saint II · 08-07-2024, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

If the last two seasons is any indication, with a GM that says, “We have all the right people in the building”, an Owner who’s partying like it’s 2010, and fans like Quido who are happy to jump all over the Mediocrity Train, possibly for the rest of his life, we’ll see more of the same.

Please stop saying Quido. It's so third grade. Personally, I respect you but the name calling seems beneath a man of your broad intellect.

Sinner · 08-07-2024, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Please stop saying Quido. It's so third grade. Personally, I respect you but the name calling seems beneath a man of your broad intellect.

I was referring to a certain type of Saints Fan, and his name epitomizes it, but I will do my best to work around it.

K Major · 08-03-2024, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

What about 8 or 9 wins, or what happens if it's 5, 6 or 7 wins, does he keep his job or gets fired?

Anything short of a post season appearance, L.D. Bell should be fired.

His career HC record is 24-46 (.343).

K Major · 08-03-2024, 09:38 AM

Dennis Allen's record against all 32 NFL teams

mapcow · 08-03-2024, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Dennis Allen's record against all 32 NFL teams

watch out!

08-03-2024, 08:44 AM	#1
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE? To be fair, I really can't really form an opinion if Dennis Allen is a good head coach or not. That roster is not very strong or deep, and the salary cap situation isn't going to allow for a quick fix anytime soon. Kubiak is going to bring some very needed changes to the offensive, but with Carr at QB and a shaky o-line, I am not expecting any miracles. As a fan it is my hope the Saints win 10 plus games and have at least a good playoff run. Realistically, the Saints come into the season with a win expectation of 7.5, if I was forced to bet my life savings I would have to take the under on that. The real question becomes what happens to Dennis Allen either way? Of course if the Saints win 10 he isn't going anywhere. What about 8 or 9 wins, or what happens if it's 5, 6 or 7 wins, does he keep his job or gets fired? Sinner likes this.

08-03-2024, 10:05 AM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,565	Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE? Originally Posted by MatthewT To be fair, I really can't really form an opinion if Dennis Allen is a good head coach or not. That roster is not very strong or deep, and the salary cap situation isn't going to allow for a quick fix anytime soon. Kubiak is going to bring some very needed changes to the offensive, but with Carr at QB and a shaky o-line, I am not expecting any miracles. As a fan it is my hope the Saints win 10 plus games and have at least a good playoff run. Realistically, the Saints come into the season with a win expectation of 7.5, if I was forced to bet my life savings I would have to take the under on that. The real question becomes what happens to Dennis Allen either way? Of course if the Saints win 10 he isn't going anywhere. What about 8 or 9 wins, or what happens if it's 5, 6 or 7 wins, does he keep his job or gets fired? I jumped all over that 7.5 wins. MatthewT likes this.

08-03-2024, 10:47 AM	#3
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,818	Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I jumped all over that 7.5 wins. how do you win .5 game. that still equates to a loss. weird.
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08-04-2024, 01:58 AM	#4
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE? Originally Posted by mapcow how do you win .5 game. that still equates to a loss. weird. It's called a tie. A tie is a half win/half loss. You can see it if you look at winning percentage for a season for a team. The last tie in the NFL was Giants/Commanders in 2022. The Commanders finished 8-8-1 with a even .500 record. The Saints last year were 9-8 with a .529 winning percentage, and the Succs in 2022 were 8-9 with a .471 winning percentage. Since 8-8-1 is bracketed between the two, the tie counts for half a win. And it's made a difference too. The Steelers in 2021 were 9-7-1. Because of the tie, they took the last playoff spot over the Dolphins and the Colts who both finished 9-8. Those two finished with a .529 winning percentage while the Steelers finish with a .559. So a team that's 7-9-1 would have 7.5 wins. SFIAH WW_Who_Dat likes this.
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08-03-2024, 10:48 AM	#5
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,062	Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE? Originally Posted by MatthewT To be fair, I really can't really form an opinion if Dennis Allen is a good head coach or not. That roster is not very strong or deep, and the salary cap situation isn't going to allow for a quick fix anytime soon. Kubiak is going to bring some very needed changes to the offensive, but with Carr at QB and a shaky o-line, I am not expecting any miracles. As a fan it is my hope the Saints win 10 plus games and have at least a good playoff run. Realistically, the Saints come into the season with a win expectation of 7.5, if I was forced to bet my life savings I would have to take the under on that. The real question becomes what happens to Dennis Allen either way? Of course if the Saints win 10 he isn't going anywhere. What about 8 or 9 wins, or what happens if it's 5, 6 or 7 wins, does he keep his job or gets fired? If the last two seasons is any indication, with a GM that says, “We have all the right people in the building”, an Owner who’s partying like it’s 2010, and fans like Quido who are happy to jump all over the Mediocrity Train, possibly for the rest of his life, we’ll see more of the same. MatthewT likes this.
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08-07-2024, 04:35 PM	#6
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,125	Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE? Originally Posted by Sinner If the last two seasons is any indication, with a GM that says, “We have all the right people in the building”, an Owner who’s partying like it’s 2010, and fans like Quido who are happy to jump all over the Mediocrity Train, possibly for the rest of his life, we’ll see more of the same. Please stop saying Quido. It's so third grade. Personally, I respect you but the name calling seems beneath a man of your broad intellect.

08-07-2024, 05:43 PM	#7
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,062	Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE? Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Please stop saying Quido. It's so third grade. Personally, I respect you but the name calling seems beneath a man of your broad intellect. I was referring to a certain type of Saints Fan, and his name epitomizes it, but I will do my best to work around it.
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08-03-2024, 10:50 AM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,782 Blog Entries: 3	Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE? Originally Posted by MatthewT What about 8 or 9 wins, or what happens if it's 5, 6 or 7 wins, does he keep his job or gets fired? Anything short of a post season appearance, L.D. Bell should be fired. His career HC record is 24-46 (.343). MatthewT and Sinner like this.

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