Saints at Cardinals Gameday Thread

08-11-2024, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

You have to remember, he is playing against guys who will be bagging our groceries in a couple weeks.

It isn’t always about that when you know what to look for. He goes through his reads. He makes his decisions quickly. He scrambles efficiently, effectively, and with purpose. His throwing motion is pure and his arm talent is evident. That back shoulder throw was flick of the wrist and right on the money. The receiver was covered. Doesn’t matter by who. He still threw him open. Of course you want to see him against better competition but you also want to see him better complimentary pieces as well. Guarantee the run game opens up when he’s behind center.

Sinner · 08-11-2024, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

It isn’t always about that when you know what to look for. He goes through his reads. He makes his decisions quickly. He scrambles efficiently, effectively, and with purpose. His throwing motion is pure and his arm talent is evident. That back shoulder throw was flick of the wrist and right on the money. The receiver was covered. Doesn’t matter by who. He still threw him open. Of course you want to see him against better competition but you also want to see him better complimentary pieces as well. Guarantee the run game opens up when he’s behind center.

THIS^^^ That right there is what I have been trying to say for a long time. “When you know what to look for”… It doesn’t matter how solid or broken the O-Line might be, or who the Offensive Coordinator is… there are tangible (and intangible) aspects that tell you all you need to know about Carr as opposed to Rattler. You can see it with your eyes and feel it in your gut. The same thing can be said for Dennis Allen, as opposed to a real Head Coach with presence and fire.

Y’all who defend these positions simply because of the financial commitment and/or weird dysfunctional ties to our accepted mismanagement, are simply showing your loyalty to the front office.

voodooido · 08-11-2024, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Rattler is a legit NFL QB prospect with the tools.

He made the most of the opportunity regardless of who he faced. We couldn't say that with Ian Book .

With his skill set, he'll likely surpass Haener and in a year probably compete for Carr's job.

For where he was drafted, terrific value.

I don’t doubt he has everything it takes. I’m just not getting a hard one after playing against 5th stringers

K Major · 08-11-2024, 11:11 PM

Hebert's rant after Saints-Cardinals: Backup QB battle still 'wide open' between Rattler & Haener - YouTube

Chase Young on having a lot to prove to himself and culture of the defensive line. - YouTube

K Major · 08-11-2024, 11:23 PM

voodooido · 08-12-2024, 09:14 AM

I know it is only one game, but from what I have seen we have all the talent needed to be an explosive offense. But with no offensive line they won’t have the time to prove it. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a worse line.

rezburna · 08-12-2024, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by voodooido

I know it is only one game, but from what I have seen we have all the talent needed to be an explosive offense. But with no offensive line they won’t have the time to prove it. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a worse line.

The line is definitely a major red flag. Donovan Smith, David Bakhtiari, or Cam Erving even…all available. It’s mostly RT too be honest. Penning so trash.

BakoSaint · 08-12-2024, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

The line is definitely a major red flag. Donovan Smith, David Bakhtiari, or Cam Erving even…all available. It’s mostly RT too be honest. Penning so trash.

Unfortunately Cam Erving signed with the Texans for $1.2 million. He was our starter at the end of the year, he was clearly better than anyone on the roster at his position, we did not know if we would be able to replace him in the draft, and the cost was $1.2 million. We passed because he was part of the lineup that defied DA's call on the last play of the season, and we got rid of any of those players who did not come with a big dead cap to get rid of. Thats why both Peat and Erving are gone. It could be a factor in Hurst's retirement. Ultimately DA's pride may cost Carr his neck.

WW_Who_Dat · 08-12-2024, 10:16 AM

On one play Penning was backpedaling off balance and going down with very little contact … horrible. Looked effective on run blocking but he had a 20% pressure rate on his snaps … There will be QB pain if this does not resolve itself in the next 3 weeks.

K Major · 08-12-2024, 10:34 AM

That man is gonna get Carr folded in half.

He’s a bust.

08-11-2024, 12:31 PM	#111
Threaded by rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,793 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by voodooido You have to remember, he is playing against guys who will be bagging our groceries in a couple weeks. It isn’t always about that when you know what to look for. He goes through his reads. He makes his decisions quickly. He scrambles efficiently, effectively, and with purpose. His throwing motion is pure and his arm talent is evident. That back shoulder throw was flick of the wrist and right on the money. The receiver was covered. Doesn’t matter by who. He still threw him open. Of course you want to see him against better competition but you also want to see him better complimentary pieces as well. Guarantee the run game opens up when he’s behind center. Crusader, AsylumGuido and Sinner like this.
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08-11-2024, 01:06 PM	#112
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,342	Re: Saints at Cardinals Gameday Thread Originally Posted by rezburna It isn’t always about that when you know what to look for. He goes through his reads. He makes his decisions quickly. He scrambles efficiently, effectively, and with purpose. His throwing motion is pure and his arm talent is evident. That back shoulder throw was flick of the wrist and right on the money. The receiver was covered. Doesn’t matter by who. He still threw him open. Of course you want to see him against better competition but you also want to see him better complimentary pieces as well. Guarantee the run game opens up when he’s behind center. THIS^^^ That right there is what I have been trying to say for a long time. “When you know what to look for”… It doesn’t matter how solid or broken the O-Line might be, or who the Offensive Coordinator is… there are tangible (and intangible) aspects that tell you all you need to know about Carr as opposed to Rattler. You can see it with your eyes and feel it in your gut. The same thing can be said for Dennis Allen, as opposed to a real Head Coach with presence and fire. Y’all who defend these positions simply because of the financial commitment and/or weird dysfunctional ties to our accepted mismanagement, are simply showing your loyalty to the front office. mapcow and K Major like this.
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08-11-2024, 08:41 PM	#113
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,760	Re: Saints at Cardinals Gameday Thread Originally Posted by K Major Rattler is a legit NFL QB prospect with the tools. He made the most of the opportunity regardless of who he faced. We couldn't say that with Ian Book . With his skill set, he'll likely surpass Haener and in a year probably compete for Carr's job. For where he was drafted, terrific value. I don’t doubt he has everything it takes. I’m just not getting a hard one after playing against 5th stringers jnormand, AsylumGuido and WW_Who_Dat like this.
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voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,760	Re: Saints at Cardinals Gameday Thread I know it is only one game, but from what I have seen we have all the talent needed to be an explosive offense. But with no offensive line they won’t have the time to prove it. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a worse line.
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08-12-2024, 09:19 AM	#117
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,793	Re: Saints at Cardinals Gameday Thread Originally Posted by voodooido I know it is only one game, but from what I have seen we have all the talent needed to be an explosive offense. But with no offensive line they won’t have the time to prove it. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a worse line. The line is definitely a major red flag. Donovan Smith, David Bakhtiari, or Cam Erving even…all available. It’s mostly RT too be honest. Penning so trash. WW_Who_Dat likes this.

08-12-2024, 09:36 AM	#118
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 1,961	Re: Saints at Cardinals Gameday Thread Originally Posted by rezburna The line is definitely a major red flag. Donovan Smith, David Bakhtiari, or Cam Erving even…all available. It’s mostly RT too be honest. Penning so trash. Unfortunately Cam Erving signed with the Texans for $1.2 million. He was our starter at the end of the year, he was clearly better than anyone on the roster at his position, we did not know if we would be able to replace him in the draft, and the cost was $1.2 million. We passed because he was part of the lineup that defied DA's call on the last play of the season, and we got rid of any of those players who did not come with a big dead cap to get rid of. Thats why both Peat and Erving are gone. It could be a factor in Hurst's retirement. Ultimately DA's pride may cost Carr his neck.
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08-12-2024, 10:16 AM	#119
WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,210 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints at Cardinals Gameday Thread On one play Penning was backpedaling off balance and going down with very little contact … horrible. Looked effective on run blocking but he had a 20% pressure rate on his snaps … There will be QB pain if this does not resolve itself in the next 3 weeks.

08-12-2024, 10:34 AM	#120
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,369 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints at Cardinals Gameday Thread That man is gonna get Carr folded in half. He’s a bust.