OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS CARDINALS PRESEASON GAME

08-11-2024, 06:54 AM

Haener looked pretty good. That bomb to Perry was nice. Should be a good confidence boost for Perry as well. With him as a 3-4 WR I think the corps can be pretty solid.

Rattler looked good to. Would like to see the two switch groups for the next preseason game to see what happens.

Cruize · 08-11-2024, 07:07 AM

-Young looks dominant.
-Kool-Aid is legit.
-Holler can make plays.
-Rattler has the arm talent.
-Gay Jr. was a great signing.
-Perry is a gamer for sure.
-Clutch, powerful kick for the win.
-Everyone competed.

SmashMouth · 08-11-2024, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

1. Pass rush looks great. That was the missing piece to add to an already, elite secondary. That type of defense can win us a lot of games.

2. Derek Carr processes to slow for me. I said it last year and it seems like the new coordinator won’t be remedying that. Almost threw a pick when Olave was clearly open. Almost threw two picks actually. I’m done with Carr.

3. Spencer Rattler is clearly the future of this franchise. The ball jumps out of his hands with velocity. He scrambles effectively and efficiently as well. Can we trade Carr for an offensive lineman? Rattler needs to start.

4. I like James Robinson. I also like big bro Nacua. Holker looked great as well. Kool Aid? A dog.

Originally Posted by K Major

The bad …

Carr still has no control of this offense.
Trevor Penning has slow feet & still lost. LT, RT, he’s not good at either spot.
Isaiah Foskey is super stiff. Has no moves & seems to fade at the point of attack.

The good

Kool aid is a good looking rookie DB
Chase Young is impressive off the edge
Bresee is disruptive
Collectively, the defense played well
It’s early but Rattler looks the part

Abhorrent field conditions for an NFL field. Looked like a HS field.

I'm with Rez, trade Carr for an OL. Who would want him is the problem .

Both Haener and Rattler had their moments. Their style of play differs. Haener showed flashes of his Fresno St production and bravado. Rattler looks more fluid and comfortable. Did we see a Brett Farve-esque hard ass throw no one else in that QB room can perform? He might be the closest thing to Mahomes (that's too high an evaluation at the moment).

Defense looks improved.

The kicking game also.

Round 2 next week.

Who's going to Yulman's stadium for that scrimmage?

SmashMouth · 08-11-2024, 07:17 AM

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cmike · 08-11-2024, 07:42 AM

We should be done with Carr after that terrible deep ball he threw to Olave down the right sideline. I’ll have to go back and see if his arm was hit on the play. That’s the only explanation for such poorly thrown ball.

Payton Turner was disruptive and left the game healthy.

leilung · 08-11-2024, 08:14 AM

The Good:
- Fuaga.... DAYUM! His first step on pass protect is Pro level already! Nice pick up for the blindside!
- Gay....as my Grandmother would say, he's like horse $#it on a farm! He's all over the place!
- Defense as a Unit.... Top 5 even without a lot of our starters!

The Bad:
- Carr...I agree with several others. His reaction to progressions seems slow. I hope this is a result of Kubiak toning down the Offense until the regular season.
- DA... clock management at the end of the game was kind of weak. That pass rush is going to be something special!
- TE stable... Non-factors. We need our starters bad.

The Ugly:
- Non-starters on D... Run D and Pass D were both lacking for being against 3rd stringers.
- Penning... his footwork is atrocious. He's a run blocker only at this phase. He's going to get his QB murdered if they don't watch how he's being used.

Other Things on Notice:
- Nacua 2.0... Watch him. He's got talent.
- Kickers... Instead of going for it on 4th, let's see if they have some accuracy from 50+
- Special Teams... Looks like there are some opportunities with the new Kick Off rules. Rizzi has them looking pretty tight right now.

saintsfan1976 · 08-11-2024, 08:37 AM

Guard and Tackle are still huge question marks. Patrick wasn't great but Penning moves on the field like an Australian Olympic Break-dancer.

It's the first preseason game so I'm eager to see if/how every bounces back.

Did Foskey or Turner make plays?

K Major · 08-11-2024, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Guard and Tackle are still huge question marks. Patrick wasn't great but Penning moves on the field like an Australian Olympic Break-dancer.

It's the first preseason game so I'm eager to see if/how every bounces back.

Did Foskey or Turner make plays?

Those two positions are legit concerns.

Foskey shows very little. When he engages at the point of attack, seems to be stuck in mud. Slow. No rip or swim moves. Nothing.

Payton Turner was good. Very good last night. Hopefully he stays healthy.

SmashMouth · 08-11-2024, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by cmike

We should be done with Carr after that terrible deep ball he threw to Olave down the right sideline. I’ll have to go back and see if his arm was hit on the play. That’s the only explanation for such poorly thrown ball.

Payton Turner was disruptive and left the game healthy.

Yeah, the very poor throw that got tipped/batted is a disaster waiting to happen. Not a pass a presumably seasoned highly paid hurler should even remotely think of letting go.

Originally Posted by K Major

Those two positions are legit concerns.

Foskey shows very little. When he engages at the point of attack, seems to be stuck in mud. Slow. No rip or swim moves. Nothing.

Payton Turner was good. Very good last night. Hopefully he stays healthy.

Hate to even utter that WutTheFoskey is earning his sarcastically adorned moniker. Is this a ND talent pool issue? It just seem that of late all ND talents don't pan out in the NFL. Hoping still that WTFoskey proves us all wrong. He needs to step up bigly.

SmashMouth · 08-11-2024, 09:10 AM

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08-11-2024, 07:14 AM	#13
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,200 Blog Entries: 29	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO THE CARDINALS… Originally Posted by rezburna 1. Pass rush looks great. That was the missing piece to add to an already, elite secondary. That type of defense can win us a lot of games. 2. Derek Carr processes to slow for me. I said it last year and it seems like the new coordinator won’t be remedying that. Almost threw a pick when Olave was clearly open. Almost threw two picks actually. I’m done with Carr. 3. Spencer Rattler is clearly the future of this franchise. The ball jumps out of his hands with velocity. He scrambles effectively and efficiently as well. Can we trade Carr for an offensive lineman? Rattler needs to start. 4. I like James Robinson. I also like big bro Nacua. Holker looked great as well. Kool Aid? A dog. Originally Posted by K Major The bad … Carr still has no control of this offense. Trevor Penning has slow feet & still lost. LT, RT, he’s not good at either spot. Isaiah Foskey is super stiff. Has no moves & seems to fade at the point of attack. The good Kool aid is a good looking rookie DB Chase Young is impressive off the edge Bresee is disruptive Collectively, the defense played well It’s early but Rattler looks the part Abhorrent field conditions for an NFL field. Looked like a HS field. I'm with Rez, trade Carr for an OL. Who would want him is the problem . Both Haener and Rattler had their moments. Their style of play differs. Haener showed flashes of his Fresno St production and bravado. Rattler looks more fluid and comfortable. Did we see a Brett Farve-esque hard ass throw no one else in that QB room can perform? He might be the closest thing to Mahomes (that's too high an evaluation at the moment). Defense looks improved. The kicking game also. Round 2 next week. Who's going to Yulman's stadium for that scrimmage?

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leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,373	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS CARDINALS PRESEASON GAME The Good: - Fuaga.... DAYUM! His first step on pass protect is Pro level already! Nice pick up for the blindside! - Gay....as my Grandmother would say, he's like horse $#it on a farm! He's all over the place! - Defense as a Unit.... Top 5 even without a lot of our starters! The Bad: - Carr...I agree with several others. His reaction to progressions seems slow. I hope this is a result of Kubiak toning down the Offense until the regular season. - DA... clock management at the end of the game was kind of weak. That pass rush is going to be something special! - TE stable... Non-factors. We need our starters bad. The Ugly: - Non-starters on D... Run D and Pass D were both lacking for being against 3rd stringers. - Penning... his footwork is atrocious. He's a run blocker only at this phase. He's going to get his QB murdered if they don't watch how he's being used. Other Things on Notice: - Nacua 2.0... Watch him. He's got talent. - Kickers... Instead of going for it on 4th, let's see if they have some accuracy from 50+ - Special Teams... Looks like there are some opportunities with the new Kick Off rules. Rizzi has them looking pretty tight right now.
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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS CARDINALS PRESEASON GAME Guard and Tackle are still huge question marks. Patrick wasn't great but Penning moves on the field like an Australian Olympic Break-dancer. It's the first preseason game so I'm eager to see if/how every bounces back. Did Foskey or Turner make plays? leilung and K Major like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS CARDINALS PRESEASON GAME Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Guard and Tackle are still huge question marks. Patrick wasn't great but Penning moves on the field like an Australian Olympic Break-dancer. It's the first preseason game so I'm eager to see if/how every bounces back. Did Foskey or Turner make plays? Those two positions are legit concerns. Foskey shows very little. When he engages at the point of attack, seems to be stuck in mud. Slow. No rip or swim moves. Nothing. Payton Turner was good. Very good last night. Hopefully he stays healthy. leilung likes this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,200 Blog Entries: 29	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS CARDINALS PRESEASON GAME Originally Posted by cmike We should be done with Carr after that terrible deep ball he threw to Olave down the right sideline. I’ll have to go back and see if his arm was hit on the play. That’s the only explanation for such poorly thrown ball. Payton Turner was disruptive and left the game healthy. Yeah, the very poor throw that got tipped/batted is a disaster waiting to happen. Not a pass a presumably seasoned highly paid hurler should even remotely think of letting go. Originally Posted by K Major Those two positions are legit concerns. Foskey shows very little. When he engages at the point of attack, seems to be stuck in mud. Slow. No rip or swim moves. Nothing. Payton Turner was good. Very good last night. Hopefully he stays healthy. Hate to even utter that WutTheFoskey is earning his sarcastically adorned moniker. Is this a ND talent pool issue? It just seem that of late all ND talents don't pan out in the NFL. Hoping still that WTFoskey proves us all wrong. He needs to step up bigly.