OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS CARDINALS PRESEASON GAME

jnormand · 08-11-2024, 05:42 PM

I didn’t watch game last night, but after reading everyone’s chat about how ****ty the offensive line was (Penning in particular) and how underwhelming Carr was, it didn’t make me very excited for the season.

I know the offense is going to be vanilla but I would’ve like to have read that Carr was picking up where he left off at the end of last season. I know there’s still a chance of that, but the chatter isn’t making me very confident.

K Major · 08-11-2024, 08:11 PM

Notice Fuaga's footwork and hand placement.

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K Major · 08-12-2024, 11:09 AM

It’s only year 2 but Bryan Bresee stands out to me.

He’s quickly becoming a force & potentially a 3 down DT.

IMO he will become dominant.

AsylumGuido · 08-12-2024, 11:18 AM

They reportedly didn't even run any of the "Kubiak" offense in the game, nor are they likely to until the regular season.

AsylumGuido · 08-12-2024, 11:33 AM

AsylumGuido · 08-12-2024, 11:33 AM

Sinner · 08-12-2024, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

They reportedly didn't even run any of the "Kubiak" offense in the game, nor are they likely to until the regular season.

Freaking brilliant. Hold back your “Kubiak” Offense during Preseason, and then “test” it to see if it works during the Regular Season, so that we can make adjustments in the next Off Season. So tricky, I’m sure Derek Carr and the “Offensive” line will be baffled.

saintsfan1976 · 08-12-2024, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

Freaking brilliant. Hold back your “Kubiak” Offense during Preseason, and then “test” it to see if it works during the Regular Season, so that we can make adjustments in the next Off Season. So tricky, I’m sure Derek Carr and the “Offensive” line will be baffled.

I read an article by Underhill stating that what he observed against Arizona represented very little of the offense the Saints have been practicing in camp.

It's conceivable that a team would run vanilla plays especially in game 1 of the preseason. Why show your hand and while using backup players?

Sinner · 08-12-2024, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I read an article by Underhill stating that what he observed against Arizona represented very little of the offense the Saints have been practicing in camp.

It's conceivable that a team would run vanilla plays especially in game 1 of the preseason. Why show your hand and while using backup players?

“Let’s see what happens…”

AsylumGuido · 08-12-2024, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I read an article by Underhill stating that what he observed against Arizona represented very little of the offense the Saints have been practicing in camp.

It's conceivable that a team would run vanilla plays especially in game 1 of the preseason. Why show your hand and while using backup players?

Exactly. They were talking about that very subject on NFL Radio a few days ago. They were saying that given the vast majority of players used extensively in preseason games were going to be either deep backups or not even on the final roster, trying to run your schemes, offensive or defensive, is a waste of time. They said all teams feel it is best to keep things "vanilla" and simply use the games to evaluate the players' basic abilities, be they physical or mental. They said scheme work is most effectively realized in regular practice, classroom, or walk throughs.

It makes sense since there are almost zero instances in the preseason games where the entire defense or offense plays more than a handful of snaps as a group, if any at all. Why give anything away if it adds little to no value?

08-11-2024, 05:42 PM	#1
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,745	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS CARDINALS PRESEASON GAME I didn’t watch game last night, but after reading everyone’s chat about how ****ty the offensive line was (Penning in particular) and how underwhelming Carr was, it didn’t make me very excited for the season. I know the offense is going to be vanilla but I would’ve like to have read that Carr was picking up where he left off at the end of last season. I know there’s still a chance of that, but the chatter isn’t making me very confident.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,797 Blog Entries: 3	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS CARDINALS PRESEASON GAME Notice Fuaga's footwork and hand placement. Twitter MatthewT, Crusader, leilung and 1 others like this.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,065	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS CARDINALS PRESEASON GAME Originally Posted by AsylumGuido They reportedly didn't even run any of the "Kubiak" offense in the game, nor are they likely to until the regular season. Freaking brilliant. Hold back your “Kubiak” Offense during Preseason, and then “test” it to see if it works during the Regular Season, so that we can make adjustments in the next Off Season. So tricky, I’m sure Derek Carr and the “Offensive” line will be baffled.
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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,995 Blog Entries: 3	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS CARDINALS PRESEASON GAME Originally Posted by Sinner Freaking brilliant. Hold back your “Kubiak” Offense during Preseason, and then “test” it to see if it works during the Regular Season, so that we can make adjustments in the next Off Season. So tricky, I’m sure Derek Carr and the “Offensive” line will be baffled. I read an article by Underhill stating that what he observed against Arizona represented very little of the offense the Saints have been practicing in camp. It's conceivable that a team would run vanilla plays especially in game 1 of the preseason. Why show your hand and while using backup players? leilung and AsylumGuido like this.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,065	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS CARDINALS PRESEASON GAME Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I read an article by Underhill stating that what he observed against Arizona represented very little of the offense the Saints have been practicing in camp. It's conceivable that a team would run vanilla plays especially in game 1 of the preseason. Why show your hand and while using backup players? “Let’s see what happens…”
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08-12-2024, 03:29 PM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,573	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS CARDINALS PRESEASON GAME Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I read an article by Underhill stating that what he observed against Arizona represented very little of the offense the Saints have been practicing in camp. It's conceivable that a team would run vanilla plays especially in game 1 of the preseason. Why show your hand and while using backup players? Exactly. They were talking about that very subject on NFL Radio a few days ago. They were saying that given the vast majority of players used extensively in preseason games were going to be either deep backups or not even on the final roster, trying to run your schemes, offensive or defensive, is a waste of time. They said all teams feel it is best to keep things "vanilla" and simply use the games to evaluate the players' basic abilities, be they physical or mental. They said scheme work is most effectively realized in regular practice, classroom, or walk throughs. It makes sense since there are almost zero instances in the preseason games where the entire defense or offense plays more than a handful of snaps as a group, if any at all. Why give anything away if it adds little to no value?
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