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K Major 08-27-2024 09:44 AM

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Punter Lou Hedley ... cut.

Good move.

Source - Mike Triplett

AsylumGuido 08-27-2024 09:47 AM

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saintsfan1976 08-27-2024 09:48 AM

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Lou Hedley. Cut.

saintsfan1976 08-27-2024 09:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 999900)
Probably not but I’d bring in Max Scharping (LG) for a visit.

Nick Saldiveri missed a lot of camp. Quality depth is lacking.

Are we thinking scheme and live reps are factors that make the case for Penning to remain starter at RT?

And what if (when) he goes down?

AsylumGuido 08-27-2024 09:51 AM

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K Major 08-27-2024 09:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 999910)
Are we thinking scheme and live reps are factors that make the case for Penning to remain starter at RT?

And what if (when) he goes down?

Someone here posted Penning run block grades vs Titans but casually left off pass protection (63.8). I'm not drinking the kool aid.

I don't believe the starting RT is on the roster right now.

AsylumGuido 08-27-2024 09:54 AM

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Robinson waived.


rezburna 08-27-2024 09:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 999910)
Are we thinking scheme and live reps are factors that make the case for Penning to remain starter at RT?

And what if (when) he goes down?

They’ll probably start Penning to keep getting him live action reps, but I think they should go with Udoh for now.

rezburna 08-27-2024 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 999914)

Don’t like this move.

Boston Saint 08-27-2024 09:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 999906)
Punter Lou Hedley ... cut.

Good move.

Source - Mike Triplett

Presley Harvin the third. Backup Punter on Niners. Sign him.

saintsfan1976 08-27-2024 09:56 AM

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Jacob Kibodi CUT

Hope he makes PS. I liked his game.

AsylumGuido 08-27-2024 10:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 999910)
Are we thinking scheme and live reps are factors that make the case for Penning to remain starter at RT?

And what if (when) he goes down?

I hope we can find some bodies to bring in at starter or backup. As much of an optimist that I am, I am also concerned that there simply aren't bodies out there that can be truly considered upgrades.

AsylumGuido 08-27-2024 10:03 AM

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Jackson Carman, OT, Bengals: The 2021 second-round pick wasn't able to stick as a backup after a shaky camp and preseason.

AsylumGuido 08-27-2024 10:06 AM

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Jacob Kibodi
Waived by New Orleans (NO)

Aug 27, 2024

AsylumGuido 08-27-2024 10:08 AM

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Offensive tackle cuts

Caleb Jones (LT)
Aug 27, 2024 - Waived by Green Bay (GB)

Chim Okorafor (T)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Cleveland (CLE)

Oliver Jervis (T)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Denver (DEN)

Matt Nelson (RT)
Aug 26, 2024 - Released by New York (NYG)

Darrell Simpson (RT)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Baltimore (BAL)

Austen Pleasants (LT)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Arizona (ARI)

Zuri Henry (RT)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by New England (NE)

Brian Dooley (LT)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Tennessee (TEN)

Roy Mbaeteka (T)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Cleveland (CLE)

Spencer Rolland (RT)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Minnesota (MIN)

Matt Cindric (T)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Minnesota (MIN)

Doug Nester (LT)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Minnesota (MIN)

Devery Hamilton (LT)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Pittsburgh (PIT)

Tyler Beach (RT)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Pittsburgh (PIT)

Blake Larson (RT)
Aug 25, 2024 - Waived by Los Angeles (LAR)

Jaryd Jones-Smith (RT)
Aug 25, 2024 - Waived by Atlanta (ATL)

AsylumGuido 08-27-2024 10:09 AM

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Saints Cuts


Tremayne Anchrum (G)
Aug 27, 2024 - Released by New Orleans (NO)

Ugo Amadi (S)
Aug 27, 2024 - Released by New Orleans (NO)

Lou Hedley (P)
Aug 27, 2024 - Waived by New Orleans (NO)

Jesse Davis (G)
Aug 27, 2024 - Released by New Orleans (NO)

leilung 08-27-2024 10:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 999913)
Someone here posted Penning run block grades vs Titans but casually left off pass protection (63.8). I'm not drinking the kool aid.

I don't believe the starting RT is on the roster right now.

We go to war with the army we have, not the one we wished we had.

I don't see a whole lot of other options floating around out there at this point. You can bet that other teams are hawking that waiver wire to pick up some OL help. There's just not a lot of quality there.

MatthewT 08-27-2024 11:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by leilung (Post 999924)
We go to war with the army we have, not the one we wished we had.

I don't see a whole lot of other options floating around out there at this point. You can bet that other teams are hawking that waiver wire to pick up some OL help. There's just not a lot of quality there.

The options are limited, but there are guys available. A lot of people may argue with me about this, Doug Marrone did a wonderful job patching a line together after the Penning failure. A guy like John Benton should be able to do the same and find some upgrades on the open market.

K Major 08-27-2024 11:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by leilung (Post 999924)
We go to war with the army we have, not the one we wished we had.

I don't see a whole lot of other options floating around out there at this point. You can bet that other teams are hawking that waiver wire to pick up some OL help. There's just not a lot of quality there.

But it's crucial that we don't use this as a reason to overlook the importance of preparation and foresight.

National scouts, Ireland & Allen failed with this high 1st round pick & no contingency plan in place.

saintsfan1976 08-27-2024 11:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 999922)
Offensive tackle cuts

Caleb Jones (LT)
Aug 27, 2024 - Waived by Green Bay (GB)

Chim Okorafor (T)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Cleveland (CLE)

Oliver Jervis (T)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Denver (DEN)

Matt Nelson (RT)
Aug 26, 2024 - Released by New York (NYG)

Darrell Simpson (RT)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Baltimore (BAL)

Austen Pleasants (LT)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Arizona (ARI)

Zuri Henry (RT)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by New England (NE)

Brian Dooley (LT)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Tennessee (TEN)

Roy Mbaeteka (T)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Cleveland (CLE)

Spencer Rolland (RT)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Minnesota (MIN)

Matt Cindric (T)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Minnesota (MIN)

Doug Nester (LT)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Minnesota (MIN)

Devery Hamilton (LT)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Pittsburgh (PIT)

Tyler Beach (RT)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Pittsburgh (PIT)

Blake Larson (RT)
Aug 25, 2024 - Waived by Los Angeles (LAR)

Jaryd Jones-Smith (RT)
Aug 25, 2024 - Waived by Atlanta (ATL)

Chim Okarafor

Matt Nelson

Caleb Jones

AsylumGuido 08-27-2024 11:42 AM

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More Saints Cuts

Kyle Hergel (G)
Aug 27, 2024 - Waived by New Orleans (NO)

Lawrence Johnson (S)
Aug 27, 2024 - Waived by New Orleans (NO)

Johnathan Abram (S)
Aug 27, 2024 - Released by New Orleans (NO)

Shemar Jean-Charles (CB)
Aug 27, 2024 - Released by New Orleans (NO)

Charlie Smyth (K)
Aug 27, 2024 - Waived by New Orleans (NO)

Mark Evans II (G)
Aug 27, 2024 - Waived by New Orleans (NO)

Jack Heflin (DT)
Aug 27, 2024 - Waived by New Orleans (NO)

Millard Bradford (S)
Aug 27, 2024 - Waived by New Orleans (NO)

Michael Jacobson (TE)
Aug 27, 2024 - Waived by New Orleans (NO)

Josiah Ezirim (RT)
Aug 27, 2024 - Waived by New Orleans (NO)

Crusader 08-27-2024 11:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 999906)
Punter Lou Hedley ... cut.

Good move.

Source - Mike Triplett

I try to never celebrate somebody losing their job but for the team this is addition by subtraction.

saintsfan1976 08-27-2024 11:44 AM

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Why would you waive a kicker who doesn't count against the 52?

Unless I'm misreading, European players don't count against it.

AsylumGuido 08-27-2024 11:44 AM

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More Tackle Cuts

Jake Curhan (RT)
Aug 27, 2024 - Released by Chicago (CHI)

Josiah Ezirim (RT)
Aug 27, 2024 - Waived by New Orleans (NO)

David Sharpe (LT)
Aug 27, 2024 - Released by Houston (HOU)

Jesse Davis (G)
Aug 27, 2024 - Released by New Orleans (NO)

Caleb Jones (LT)
Aug 27, 2024 - Waived by Green Bay (GB)

Chim Okorafor (T)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Cleveland (CLE)

Oliver Jervis (T)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Denver (DEN)

Matt Nelson (RT)
Aug 26, 2024 - Released by New York (NYG)

Darrell Simpson (RT)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Baltimore (BAL)

Austen Pleasants (LT)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Arizona (ARI)

Zuri Henry (RT)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by New England (NE)

Brian Dooley (LT)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Tennessee (TEN)

Roy Mbaeteka (T)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Cleveland (CLE)

Spencer Rolland (RT)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Minnesota (MIN)

Matt Cindric (T)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Minnesota (MIN)

Doug Nester (LT)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Minnesota (MIN)

Devery Hamilton (LT)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Pittsburgh (PIT)

Tyler Beach (RT)
Aug 26, 2024 - Waived by Pittsburgh (PIT)

AsylumGuido 08-27-2024 11:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 999932)
Why would you waive a kicker who doesn't count against the 52?

Unless I'm misreading, European players don't count against it.

I don't think Hedley was in the program.

The NFL's International Player Pathway (IPP) program has specific rules for players who sign through the program. Here are some of the rules:

Eligibility

To qualify as an international player, a person must be a non-US or Canadian citizen, have lived outside of the US and Canada, and have had a maximum of two years of high school experience in the US. They must also be at least 24 years old, have been out of high school for at least four years, and not have played American football at a US college. In addition, they must be able to speak English and be available to travel to the US for two months starting in early March. Finally, they must meet all NFL player eligibility rules and have been eligible for a previous NFL Draft.

papz 08-27-2024 11:49 AM

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I'd like to see us bring in Terrace Marshall and Andy Isabella for a look. We certainly need help at the position.

saintsfan1976 08-27-2024 12:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 999934)
I don't think Hedley was in the program.

The NFL's International Player Pathway (IPP) program has specific rules for players who sign through the program. Here are some of the rules:

Eligibility

To qualify as an international player, a person must be a non-US or Canadian citizen, have lived outside of the US and Canada, and have had a maximum of two years of high school experience in the US. They must also be at least 24 years old, have been out of high school for at least four years, and not have played American football at a US college. In addition, they must be able to speak English and be available to travel to the US for two months starting in early March. Finally, they must meet all NFL player eligibility rules and have been eligible for a previous NFL Draft.

Charlie Smyth

AsylumGuido 08-27-2024 12:07 PM

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Okay, here was a big bust. #17 overall.


Alex Leatherwood (RT)
Aug 27, 2024 - Waived by Los Angeles (LAC)

AsylumGuido 08-27-2024 12:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 999938)
Charlie Smyth

Yes. Smyth qualifies and is in the program.

AsylumGuido 08-27-2024 12:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 999932)
Why would you waive a kicker who doesn't count against the 52?

Unless I'm misreading, European players don't count against it.

Just checked. Hedley didn't qualify because he played US college football with Miami (FL).

AsylumGuido 08-27-2024 12:13 PM

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saintsfan1976 08-27-2024 12:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 999939)
Okay, here was a big bust. #17 overall.


Alex Leatherwood (RT)
Aug 27, 2024 - Waived by Los Angeles (LAC)

6 pressures in a preseason game.

ouch

AsylumGuido 08-27-2024 12:19 PM

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More Tackle Cuts

Charlie Heck (RT)
Aug 27, 2024 - Released by Houston (HOU)

Blake Hance (LT)
Aug 27, 2024 - Released by Jacksonville (JAX)

David Nwaogwugwu (RT)
Aug 27, 2024 - Waived by Washington (WAS)

AsylumGuido 08-27-2024 12:33 PM

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turbo_dog 08-27-2024 12:35 PM

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Disappointed about Robinson. I thought he was clearly better than Mims.

AsylumGuido 08-27-2024 12:36 PM

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Not sure if you missed it listed earlier, but Charlie Smyth was waived, as well. Probably coming back as the free 17th player on the practice squad via the IPP rules.

AsylumGuido 08-27-2024 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by turbo_dog (Post 999946)
Disappointed about Robinson. I thought he was clearly better than Mims.

May make the practice squad.

AsylumGuido 08-27-2024 12:38 PM

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Boston Saint 08-27-2024 12:38 PM

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We could sign the tackle Minnesota released and have Spencer Rolland blocking for Spencer Rattler.

turbo_dog 08-27-2024 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 999948)
May make the practice squad.

I'll be surprised if he makes it past all 31 other teams.


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