Observations from Saints preseason loss to the 49ers

08-19-2024, 09:39 AM

Well... the Saints lost that one convincingly.

mapcow · 08-19-2024, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I really liked the way Kubiak used Hill. He's a more dynamic version of the Niners' Juszczyk. He's bulked way up from his QB playing days and should be able to handle the load.

... now the rest of the league knows how to defend against it.

darksoul35 · 08-19-2024, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Since preseason games dont deeply matter, and end with the 3rd-4th string in the game, I dont really mind not giving your all on last minute moves to win a preseason game. Ultimately in every preseason game the home team is the harlem globetrotters and the road team is the washington generals, especially in the 4th quarter. Players are there to impress but if the game is close in the 4th what good does a road win by a narrow margin really let your learn if you have to show your hand and go out of your way to get it. A big win may be slightly more encouraging than a big loss but ultimately in any close preseason game what you learn about the team as a whole is a wash.

I get that but it's just an attitude thing in my opinion and plus it gives the young QBs experience with the game on the line. Not a very big deal because it's pre season. Idk maybe I'm thinking that because I just don't want DA as our head coach. I think I'm liking the new OC though and I have confidence in our defense as long as the offense can avoid 3 and outs and leaving our defense on the field for 75 percent of the game.

Cruize · 08-19-2024, 10:11 AM

-Young is a beast.
-The whole defense competes.
-Jackson and Orji looked good at LB.
-The run game looked good.
-The OLine was competitive. I really like UDFA Hergel.
-Good to see Means.
-Hill is just fun to watch.
-CB Ford-Dement with the ball skills off the street.

-The young, backup QB's looked exactly like what they are right now.
-Kool-Aid getting injured is a setback.
-Nothing dynamic in the return game.

SmashMouth · 08-19-2024, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by Crusader

Penning i still atrocious as a passblocker. Everything I saw before we drafted him is still true, narrow base, plays too high, leans in to blocks.. He drops back way to fast and by that I mean he gives up ground to keep the defender in front of him but by doing so shrinks the pocket more than he needs to.
He looks like a guard trying to play tackle.

The seemingly wierd thing thou is that he is athletic. He can move and has some real athleticism. He looked really good in the running game and would be an asset there. I would try him on the inside and see if he could make a Carl Nicks type of transition.

Wonder why they don't move him to guard, then?

AsylumGuido · 08-19-2024, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Wonder why they don't move him to guard, then?

They may. Who knows? I believe that's really up to Kubiak and the new staff now.

AsylumGuido · 08-19-2024, 11:10 AM

Crusader · 08-19-2024, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Wonder why they don't move him to guard, then?

Hard to say but it might be that the coaches that see him in practise every day see a slow improvement. Or just prestige, them don't wanting to admit to being wrong about the player.

AsylumGuido · 08-19-2024, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Crusader

Hard to say but it might be that the coaches that see him in practise every day see a slow improvement. Or just prestige, them don't wanting to admit to being wrong about the player.

It's a whole new staff working with the o-line now. I doubt they are tied to any previous commitment to the player. Perhaps they know how short the supply is across the league for tackles at any level of expertise and want to give it their best shot.

AsylumGuido · 08-19-2024, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Anyone heard about the injury to Kool-Aid?

I hope its not that foot again.

All I've seen so far, Danno. Says it isn't the foot, but the knee and not anything major.

08-19-2024, 09:39 AM	#11
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08-19-2024, 09:42 AM	#12
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,792	Re: Observations from Saints preseason loss to the 49ers Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I really liked the way Kubiak used Hill. He's a more dynamic version of the Niners' Juszczyk. He's bulked way up from his QB playing days and should be able to handle the load. ... now the rest of the league knows how to defend against it. Sinner likes this.
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08-19-2024, 09:48 AM	#13
darksoul35 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,041	Re: Observations from Saints preseason loss to the 49ers Originally Posted by BakoSaint Since preseason games dont deeply matter, and end with the 3rd-4th string in the game, I dont really mind not giving your all on last minute moves to win a preseason game. Ultimately in every preseason game the home team is the harlem globetrotters and the road team is the washington generals, especially in the 4th quarter. Players are there to impress but if the game is close in the 4th what good does a road win by a narrow margin really let your learn if you have to show your hand and go out of your way to get it. A big win may be slightly more encouraging than a big loss but ultimately in any close preseason game what you learn about the team as a whole is a wash. I get that but it's just an attitude thing in my opinion and plus it gives the young QBs experience with the game on the line. Not a very big deal because it's pre season. Idk maybe I'm thinking that because I just don't want DA as our head coach. I think I'm liking the new OC though and I have confidence in our defense as long as the offense can avoid 3 and outs and leaving our defense on the field for 75 percent of the game. Sinner likes this.
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08-19-2024, 10:11 AM	#14
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Observations from Saints preseason loss to the 49ers -Young is a beast. -The whole defense competes. -Jackson and Orji looked good at LB. -The run game looked good. -The OLine was competitive. I really like UDFA Hergel. -Good to see Means. -Hill is just fun to watch. -CB Ford-Dement with the ball skills off the street. -The young, backup QB's looked exactly like what they are right now. -Kool-Aid getting injured is a setback. -Nothing dynamic in the return game. Crusader likes this.
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08-19-2024, 10:14 AM	#15
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,199 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Observations from Saints preseason loss to the 49ers Originally Posted by Crusader Penning i still atrocious as a passblocker. Everything I saw before we drafted him is still true, narrow base, plays too high, leans in to blocks.. He drops back way to fast and by that I mean he gives up ground to keep the defender in front of him but by doing so shrinks the pocket more than he needs to. He looks like a guard trying to play tackle. The seemingly wierd thing thou is that he is athletic. He can move and has some real athleticism. He looked really good in the running game and would be an asset there. I would try him on the inside and see if he could make a Carl Nicks type of transition. Wonder why they don't move him to guard, then?

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Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: Observations from Saints preseason loss to the 49ers Originally Posted by SmashMouth Wonder why they don't move him to guard, then? Hard to say but it might be that the coaches that see him in practise every day see a slow improvement. Or just prestige, them don't wanting to admit to being wrong about the player. AsylumGuido and darksoul35 like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Observations from Saints preseason loss to the 49ers Originally Posted by Crusader Hard to say but it might be that the coaches that see him in practise every day see a slow improvement. Or just prestige, them don't wanting to admit to being wrong about the player. It's a whole new staff working with the o-line now. I doubt they are tied to any previous commitment to the player. Perhaps they know how short the supply is across the league for tackles at any level of expertise and want to give it their best shot.

08-19-2024, 11:45 AM	#20
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Observations from Saints preseason loss to the 49ers Originally Posted by Danno Anyone heard about the injury to Kool-Aid? I hope its not that foot again. All I've seen so far, Danno. Says it isn't the foot, but the knee and not anything major. Twitter