Observations from Saints preseason loss to the 49ers

Halo · 08-18-2024, 11:00 PM

Ah yes, the 2nd game of preseason brings another NFL football season closer. This time the Saints lose a close one to the 49ers 16-10 at Levi Stadium in Santa Clara, California.

Derek Carr and the 1st string offense pulled together a huge, gritty drive that culminated in touchdown in the 2nd quarter. The Saints defense had some key stops and plays.

What are your thoughts? Let us know in the comments below.

Crusader · 08-18-2024, 11:14 PM

Penning i still atrocious as a passblocker. Everything I saw before we drafted him is still true, narrow base, plays too high, leans in to blocks.. He drops back way to fast and by that I mean he gives up ground to keep the defender in front of him but by doing so shrinks the pocket more than he needs to.
He looks like a guard trying to play tackle.

The seemingly wierd thing thou is that he is athletic. He can move and has some real athleticism. He looked really good in the running game and would be an asset there. I would try him on the inside and see if he could make a Carl Nicks type of transition.

leilung · 08-19-2024, 05:38 AM

Originally Posted by Crusader

Penning i still atrocious as a passblocker. Everything I saw before we drafted him is still true, narrow base, plays too high, leans in to blocks.. He drops back way to fast and by that I mean he gives up ground to keep the defender in front of him but by doing so shrinks the pocket more than he needs to.
He looks like a guard trying to play tackle.

The seemingly wierd thing thou is that he is athletic. He can move and has some real athleticism. He looked really good in the running game and would be an asset there. I would try him on the inside and see if he could make a Carl Nicks type of transition.

We're three years into Project Penning. His footwork and his base is awful against the bull rush! Stands up way too high to counter that initial push and ends up recovering from backwards momentum. If, as his coaches have said, he doesn't have a head to commit his practice to muscle memory at this point, he's a backup at best.

Just imagine if Bosa got loose on him.

AsylumGuido · 08-19-2024, 08:06 AM

AsylumGuido · 08-19-2024, 08:10 AM

I really liked the way Kubiak used Hill. He's a more dynamic version of the Niners' Juszczyk. He's bulked way up from his QB playing days and should be able to handle the load.

mapcow · 08-19-2024, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I really liked the way Kubiak used Hill. He's a more dynamic version of the Niners' Juszczyk. He's bulked way up from his QB playing days and should be able to handle the load.

... now the rest of the league knows how to defend against it.

SmashMouth · 08-19-2024, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by Crusader

Penning i still atrocious as a passblocker. Everything I saw before we drafted him is still true, narrow base, plays too high, leans in to blocks.. He drops back way to fast and by that I mean he gives up ground to keep the defender in front of him but by doing so shrinks the pocket more than he needs to.
He looks like a guard trying to play tackle.

The seemingly wierd thing thou is that he is athletic. He can move and has some real athleticism. He looked really good in the running game and would be an asset there. I would try him on the inside and see if he could make a Carl Nicks type of transition.

Wonder why they don't move him to guard, then?

AsylumGuido · 08-19-2024, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Wonder why they don't move him to guard, then?

They may. Who knows? I believe that's really up to Kubiak and the new staff now.

AsylumGuido · 08-19-2024, 10:10 AM

Sinner · 08-19-2024, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

They may. Who knows? I believe that's really up to Kubiak and the new staff now.

Like you said, Kubiak’s plan is to keep em guessing with the (melting) vanilla…
It’s so tricky, fans have no idea, Derek Carr has no idea, Dennis Allen has no idea, but by the time the playoffs roll around, we’ll all get an idea.

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Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,031	Re: Observations from Saints preseason loss to the 49ers Penning i still atrocious as a passblocker. Everything I saw before we drafted him is still true, narrow base, plays too high, leans in to blocks.. He drops back way to fast and by that I mean he gives up ground to keep the defender in front of him but by doing so shrinks the pocket more than he needs to. He looks like a guard trying to play tackle. The seemingly wierd thing thou is that he is athletic. He can move and has some real athleticism. He looked really good in the running game and would be an asset there. I would try him on the inside and see if he could make a Carl Nicks type of transition.
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leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,419	Re: Observations from Saints preseason loss to the 49ers Originally Posted by Crusader Penning i still atrocious as a passblocker. Everything I saw before we drafted him is still true, narrow base, plays too high, leans in to blocks.. He drops back way to fast and by that I mean he gives up ground to keep the defender in front of him but by doing so shrinks the pocket more than he needs to. He looks like a guard trying to play tackle. The seemingly wierd thing thou is that he is athletic. He can move and has some real athleticism. He looked really good in the running game and would be an asset there. I would try him on the inside and see if he could make a Carl Nicks type of transition. We're three years into Project Penning. His footwork and his base is awful against the bull rush! Stands up way too high to counter that initial push and ends up recovering from backwards momentum. If, as his coaches have said, he doesn't have a head to commit his practice to muscle memory at this point, he's a backup at best. Just imagine if Bosa got loose on him.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,479 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Observations from Saints preseason loss to the 49ers Originally Posted by Crusader Penning i still atrocious as a passblocker. Everything I saw before we drafted him is still true, narrow base, plays too high, leans in to blocks.. He drops back way to fast and by that I mean he gives up ground to keep the defender in front of him but by doing so shrinks the pocket more than he needs to. He looks like a guard trying to play tackle. The seemingly wierd thing thou is that he is athletic. He can move and has some real athleticism. He looked really good in the running game and would be an asset there. I would try him on the inside and see if he could make a Carl Nicks type of transition. Wonder why they don't move him to guard, then?

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,492	Re: Observations from Saints preseason loss to the 49ers Originally Posted by SmashMouth Wonder why they don't move him to guard, then? They may. Who knows? I believe that's really up to Kubiak and the new staff now.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,047	Re: Observations from Saints preseason loss to the 49ers Originally Posted by AsylumGuido They may. Who knows? I believe that's really up to Kubiak and the new staff now. Like you said, Kubiak’s plan is to keep em guessing with the (melting) vanilla… It’s so tricky, fans have no idea, Derek Carr has no idea, Dennis Allen has no idea, but by the time the playoffs roll around, we’ll all get an idea.
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