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Observations from Saints preseason loss to the 49ers
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Ah yes, the 2nd game of preseason brings another NFL football season closer. This time the Saints lose a close one to the 49ers 16-10 at Levi Stadium in Santa Clara, California.
Derek Carr and the 1st string offense pulled together a huge, gritty drive that culminated in touchdown in the 2nd quarter. The Saints defense had some key stops and plays. What are your thoughts? Let us know in the comments below. |
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Penning i still atrocious as a passblocker. Everything I saw before we drafted him is still true, narrow base, plays too high, leans in to blocks.. He drops back way to fast and by that I mean he gives up ground to keep the defender in front of him but by doing so shrinks the pocket more than he needs to.
He looks like a guard trying to play tackle. The seemingly wierd thing thou is that he is athletic. He can move and has some real athleticism. He looked really good in the running game and would be an asset there. I would try him on the inside and see if he could make a Carl Nicks type of transition. |
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I know it's pre season but why didn't we try to win. Was it possible to stop the clock and get another possession? I don't care if it was just for 1 play. I remember when we actually had a true competitive coach.
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We $#ck, just not bad enough to do a total tear down and rebuild, but just good enough to stay moderately $#cky for a long long time.
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Carr may be our best passer, but in moving to a more modern offense designed to confuse defenses but with an old school veteran qb who may be too old to learn new tricks and a bit confused by the modern offense himself, we may not get the full benefit. Sometimes later in a career its easier to fine tune the details than reinvent yourself, and as the body starts to slow and lose its edge its the mind refining those details that holds things up or even improves them. But when an aging athlete is asked to reinvent themselves to adopt a more modern system, they may perform better than in obsolete system, but never quite reach their prime years again. Ultimately a mild improvement on offense not a major improvement may be the most likely for Carr if the offensive system is improved but he does not totally click with it but is still our best passer. He may be as talented as Purdy but unable to channel Purdy in a new gen offense.
Penning did not have as bad of a day, but the problem with Penning may be consistency. I am sure that for over 2 years in the pros and before that in workouts and college tape he was flashing potential and highlights that got coaches excited. We may win games on his good days, but we may change QBs for the rest of the season on his bad days, and hoping each good day is a turning point may be a fools errand. Ultimately the team will have to decide, not just can Penning have good/serviceable days, but can he have enough of them to worth it. If Carr’s 55-65% good days and Pennings 30-40% good days only match up on 25% of days, it could be a rough season the other 75% of days. |
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Just imagine if Bosa got loose on him. :biggun: |
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I really liked the way Kubiak used Hill. He's a more dynamic version of the Niners' Juszczyk. He's bulked way up from his QB playing days and should be able to handle the load.
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Anyone heard about the injury to Kool-Aid?
I hope its not that foot again. |
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Well... the Saints lost that one convincingly. :beatnik:
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-Young is a beast.
-The whole defense competes. -Jackson and Orji looked good at LB. -The run game looked good. -The OLine was competitive. I really like UDFA Hergel. -Good to see Means. -Hill is just fun to watch. -CB Ford-Dement with the ball skills off the street. -The young, backup QB's looked exactly like what they are right now. -Kool-Aid getting injured is a setback. -Nothing dynamic in the return game. |
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It’s so tricky, fans have no idea, Derek Carr has no idea, Dennis Allen has no idea, but by the time the playoffs roll around, we’ll all get an idea. |
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He will either improve @ tackle or have a seat on the bench. |
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P. Turner didn’t record a sack but he was almost unblock-able.
He was getting that cardio in chasing Dobbs around. |
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Preseason, bah humbug. It's always nice to see guys get there time, if only for a series or two, especially if it's someone you know, or if they went to a local school. You can't gauge what the season will be by these sh*ttee games, you just want players to escape unhurt. Most will flipping burgers or bagging groceries in another week or two. What i liked about the game was the New Orleans Saints print on the back of the helmet, which was tastefully done. Our colors are killer, but nothing stood out in the game, kinda liked the Mims kid, verdict is out on the kick off. Our backup QB's looked lost.
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McKinstry's injury is a knee. Never good. Let's hope it's minor and he can recover this season.
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I still have the same concerns ...
Collectively, the OL group appears to be the weakest link on this team. Most of us already know that that "pressure" would have been a lot different with Bosa & Hargrave out there rushing the QB. The question is, how well will Carr perform if the OL is just "decent". A couple of his throws were off the mark & behind Olave. This is what I mean when I say he has trouble "throwing receivers open". Clowney, Parsons, Jalen Carter, Sweat, Chris Jones, Judon (twice) are real problems on the upcoming schedule. But I digress ... |
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If you hoped to see improvement in Week 2, you got it.
Key players missing on both sides but I'd say this game as a whole was much better than week 1. |
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Carr has timing to work out. No question. Some of his throws last night were straight up poor. I'm with you, there are legitimate threats to our offensive line. I'm encouraged by what I saw last night. Nowhere near a complete unit but a step forward. 2 more games to go before we find out for sure. :bng: |
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Less than 2 seconds protection on most dropbacks/shotgun regardless of the QB. SOOOO many blocking assignments whiffed, even on runs. D is legit. No coach can make up for the lack of talent/able bodies on the OL. I fear we will likely go through all 4 qbs this season.
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I'm convinced the downfall of this team will be the O-line, not QB.
Carr is forced to throw too early on nearly every passing down. Haener and Rattler were running for their lives more often than not. Just my 2 cents |
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So “O-Line seems to be an issue”… Haven’t we been saying that for some time now? Just like we knew that when Drew (GOD BLESS HIM) was in decline, we would have to do better than scoop up Raider Curbside Trash… and just like when Sean Payton was packing his bags, we would have to do more than give a nod to the absolute DUD that is Dennis Allen… but our front office AINT interested in winning championships. So here we are in another “Iffy at best” Season… This has become Saints Culture. Shame.
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Who played three years at Right Tackle. Now starting Left Tackle with a revolving door immediately to his right shoulder. I'm not so optimistic there either... |
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Carr tends to force it in sometimes ill advised, or he won't throw the WR open or in a manner that will allow the receiver to get lots of YAC. Haener did good in the first outing on a long ball, but missed a wide open throw a couple of times in game two. Rattler looked rattled in game 2. This is the reality of the current Saints team. |
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