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'24-'25 Saints Bold Predictions

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Carr leaves too much meat on the bone. He has a Pro Bowl caliber ‘24 - ‘25 season. Now a MVP type season would be nice but that’s an insane prediction....

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Old 08-29-2024, 06:27 PM   #1
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Re: '24-'25 Saints Bold Predictions

Carr leaves too much meat on the bone.
He has a Pro Bowl caliber ‘24 - ‘25 season.
Now a MVP type season would be nice but that’s an insane prediction.
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Old 08-29-2024, 06:57 PM   #2
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Carr leaves too much meat on the bone.
He has a Pro Bowl caliber ‘24 - ‘25 season.
Now a MVP type season would be nice but that’s an insane prediction.
Agree with this. Carr has always been conservative. That's why he has one of the lowest interception rates in NFL history. Also why he has one of the best completion percentages. He needs to force it more. Trust himself and his receivers.
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Old 08-30-2024, 07:37 AM   #3
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
Agree with this. Carr has always been conservative. That's why he has one of the lowest interception rates in NFL history. Also why he has one of the best completion percentages. He needs to force it more. Trust himself and his receivers.


Over the last 10 years, Derek Carr has thrown 107 interceptions, which ties him with Matt Stafford for MOST INTS thrown by an NFL QB.

While true, his "INT % Rate" (1.9%) does rank him in the top 6 QBs , that's because he also leads the NFL in "Pass Attempts" at 5,506.


https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mos...-last-10-years
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Old 08-30-2024, 08:04 AM   #4
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Over the last 10 years, Derek Carr has thrown 107 interceptions, which ties him with Matt Stafford for MOST INTS thrown by an NFL QB.

While true, his "INT % Rate" (1.9%) does rank him in the top 6 QBs , that's because he also leads the NFL in "Pass Attempts" at 5,506.


https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mos...-last-10-years
This is rather misleading as well. Many starting QBs haven’t even been in the league 10 years. Carr is high on the TD list if you go back that far….

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mos...-last-10-years
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Old 08-30-2024, 08:10 AM   #5
 
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This is rather misleading as well. Many starting QBs haven’t even been in the league 10 years. Carr is high on the TD list if you go back that far….

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mos...-last-10-years
If one goes back 5 more years, Andy Dalton has more TDs.
https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mos...-last-15-years
It also shows he's average. Average is better than bad, but it's not top tier which is what you need when the rest of the team isn't as good (As Brees and Brady showcased, Mahomes too now) .
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Old 08-30-2024, 08:23 AM   #6
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If one goes back 5 more years, Andy Dalton has more TDs.
https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mos...-last-15-years
It also shows he's average. Average is better than bad, but it's not top tier which is what you need when the rest of the team isn't as good (As Brees and Brady showcased, Mahomes too now) .
Sure, but that’s because Dalton played in 11 more games over that 15 years span. Those 11 games allowed him to throw four more touchdowns. Dalton and Carr’s TD percentages are virtually the same. Their INT percentages are not. Thats why I called it misleading.

And I’m certainly not putting Carr in the Mahomes greatness category. But I believe Guido’s point is valid in that he is not an interception machine. In fact, he’s never had a season with more interceptions than touchdowns. Lots of HOF QBs can’t make that same statement.
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Old 08-30-2024, 08:55 AM   #7
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Sure, but that’s because Dalton played in 11 more games over that 15 years span. Those 11 games allowed him to throw four more touchdowns. Dalton and Carr’s TD percentages are virtually the same. Their INT percentages are not. Thats why I called it misleading.

And I’m certainly not putting Carr in the Mahomes greatness category. But I believe Guido’s point is valid in that he is not an interception machine. In fact, he’s never had a season with more interceptions than touchdowns. Lots of HOF QBs can’t make that same statement.
Don’t y’all ever get tired of trying to prove that we $uck less than some others?
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth View Post
If one goes back 5 more years, Andy Dalton has more TDs.
https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mos...-last-15-years
It also shows he's average. Average is better than bad, but it's not top tier which is what you need when the rest of the team isn't as good (As Brees and Brady showcased, Mahomes too now) .
Top tier is extremely rarely available. Average in the NFL means the QB is one of the 16-17 best at what they do in the entire world.
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Old 08-30-2024, 06:50 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint View Post
This is rather misleading as well. Many starting QBs haven’t even been in the league 10 years. Carr is high on the TD list if you go back that far….

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mos...-last-10-years
Stats can always be misleading. Point taken, point proven.

I think Carr has a lot to offer this offense if he can be quick, accurate and consistent.
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