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'24-'25 Saints Bold Predictions

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Boston Saint Sure, but that’s because Dalton played in 11 more games over that 15 years span. Those 11 games allowed him to throw four more touchdowns. Dalton and Carr’s TD percentages are virtually the same. Their ...

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Old 08-30-2024, 08:55 AM   #1
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Sure, but that’s because Dalton played in 11 more games over that 15 years span. Those 11 games allowed him to throw four more touchdowns. Dalton and Carr’s TD percentages are virtually the same. Their INT percentages are not. Thats why I called it misleading.

And I’m certainly not putting Carr in the Mahomes greatness category. But I believe Guido’s point is valid in that he is not an interception machine. In fact, he’s never had a season with more interceptions than touchdowns. Lots of HOF QBs can’t make that same statement.
Don’t y’all ever get tired of trying to prove that we $uck less than some others?
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Old 08-30-2024, 10:23 AM   #2
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Don’t y’all ever get tired of trying to prove that we $uck less than some others?
Don't you ever get tired of trying to prove to everyone how badly you think we suck?
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Old 08-30-2024, 11:17 AM   #3
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Don't you ever get tired of trying to prove to everyone how badly you think we suck?
No. I get tired of seeing us $uck not badly enough to make the necessary changes, but badly enough to not make the playoffs… AGAIN.

BUT as a fan, I’ll never get tired of demanding that the BLACK AND GOLD strive for excellence, and that they DO WHATEVER IT TAKES to win a championship ASAP. We have simply been irrelevant for way too long.
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Don’t y’all ever get tired of trying to prove that we $uck less than some others?
So you are trying to argue that Carr WAS a Turnover Machine last year. Good Luck with that.
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So you are trying to argue that Carr WAS a Turnover Machine last year. Good Luck with that.
Yup. In fact, 24 QB's had as many or more interceptions than Carr's eight. Only Stroud and Pickett had a lower interception rate Than Carr's 1.5%. He was 10th in total passing TD's (25). He was 6th in completion percentage (68.4%). Twenty-two QB's (including Stroud) lost more fumbles than Carr's three.

You're correct, Boston. Nobody in their right mind could think that Carr was anything close to a turnover machine. Quite the opposite. There's only one or two that protected the ball as well as did Carr last year.

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So you are trying to argue that Carr WAS a Turnover Machine last year. Good Luck with that.
No. I am not trying to argue about that. Not at all.

Carr is Raider Curbside Trash, and Dennis Allen is a DUD. I don’t need to argue that point, because they prove it themselves.
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No. I am not trying to argue about that. Not at all.

Carr is Raider Curbside Trash, and Dennis Allen is a DUD. I don’t need to argue that point, because they prove it themselves.
Your opinion. Fine. I simply don't agree. You've been spewing your hatred toward the two of them before Carr ever took a snap and Allen ever coached his first game for the Saints. And it is hatred. That is clear and obvious and you cannot hide it.
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Your opinion. Fine. I simply don't agree. You've been spewing your hatred toward the two of them before Carr ever took a snap and Allen ever coached his first game for the Saints. And it is hatred. That is clear and obvious and you cannot hide it.
It’s not “hatred”. It is analysis of professional performance. You can choose to make this personal and emotional, or you can look objectively at exactly what we got.
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It’s not “hatred”. It is analysis of professional performance. You can choose to make this personal and emotional, or you can look objectively at exactly what we got.
But that's the point. You had already made your mind up and was on here bashing them both before a single game was ever played. That is not being rational or objective. It is being emotional and preconceived. On the other hand I see Dennis Allen putting one of the best defenses in the league on the field. I see him dumping the Carmichael led offense this season in favor of one better suited to utilizing all of our weapons. Judgement is out until it truly hits the field. That's how you correctly analyze and and judge objectively.

As for Carr, no he isn't elite, none but a very small handful are across the NFL. But what he is is better than most, average at worst. Replacing him now is just as likely going to be with someone inferior, for the short term and likely the long term.

Don't fool yourself. We can all see it. It is hatred you exhibit toward both Carr and Allen. Constant name calling and belittling is telltale. Nothing objective there, at all. Just calling it like most of us out here see it, Sin.

What I see having dropped you from "ignore" is that you haven't changed your ways at all. You are still hijacking every thread with the same monotonous venom with no possible result other than pissing off and running off other members that come here to honestly talk about their Saints. Most fans across the league begin a new season with excitement and high hopes, not blatant hate mongering.

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But that's the point. You had already made your mind up and was on here bashing them both before a single game was ever played. That is not being rational or objective. It is being emotional and preconceived. On the other hand I see Dennis Allen putting one of the best defenses in the league on the field. I see him dumping the Carmichael led offense this season in favor of one better suited to utilizing all of our weapons. Judgement is out until it truly hits the field. That's how you correctly analyze and and judge objectively.

As for Carr, no he isn't elite, none but a very small handful are across the NFL. But what he is is better than most, average at worst. Replacing him now is just as likely going to be with someone inferior, for the short term and likely the long term.

Don't fool yourself. We can all see it. It is hatred you exhibit toward both Carr and Allen. Constant name calling and belittling is telltale. Nothing objective there, at all. Just calling it like most of us out here see it, Sin.

What I see having dropped you from "ignore" is that you haven't changed your ways at all. You are still hijacking every thread with the same monotonous venom with no possible result other than pissing off and running off other members that come here to honestly talk about their Saints. Most fans across the league begin a new season with excitement and high hopes, not blatant hate mongering.
Carr is Raider Curbside Trash. The Raiders knew it, The Saints knew it, We all knew it… And Dennis Allen is a DUD. There’s no hatred for these men, at least, not from me. We are simply NOT (AINT) going to win a championship as long as they are around. That’s my not so bold prediction.
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