'24-'25 Saints Bold Predictions

AsylumGuido · 08-30-2024, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

If one goes back 5 more years, Andy Dalton has more TDs.
https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mos...-last-15-years
It also shows he's average. Average is better than bad, but it's not top tier which is what you need when the rest of the team isn't as good (As Brees and Brady showcased, Mahomes too now) .

Top tier is extremely rarely available. Average in the NFL means the QB is one of the 16-17 best at what they do in the entire world.

AsylumGuido · 08-30-2024, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by Sinner

Don’t y’all ever get tired of trying to prove that we $uck less than some others?

Don't you ever get tired of trying to prove to everyone how badly you think we suck?

Boston Saint · 08-30-2024, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by Sinner

Don’t y’all ever get tired of trying to prove that we $uck less than some others?

So you are trying to argue that Carr WAS a Turnover Machine last year. Good Luck with that.

AsylumGuido · 08-30-2024, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

So you are trying to argue that Carr WAS a Turnover Machine last year. Good Luck with that.

Yup. In fact, 24 QB's had as many or more interceptions than Carr's eight. Only Stroud and Pickett had a lower interception rate Than Carr's 1.5%. He was 10th in total passing TD's (25). He was 6th in completion percentage (68.4%). Twenty-two QB's (including Stroud) lost more fumbles than Carr's three.

You're correct, Boston. Nobody in their right mind could think that Carr was anything close to a turnover machine. Quite the opposite. There's only one or two that protected the ball as well as did Carr last year.

Sinner · 08-30-2024, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Don't you ever get tired of trying to prove to everyone how badly you think we suck?

No. I get tired of seeing us $uck not badly enough to make the necessary changes, but badly enough to not make the playoffs… AGAIN.

BUT as a fan, I’ll never get tired of demanding that the BLACK AND GOLD strive for excellence, and that they DO WHATEVER IT TAKES to win a championship ASAP. We have simply been irrelevant for way too long.

Sinner · 08-30-2024, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

So you are trying to argue that Carr WAS a Turnover Machine last year. Good Luck with that.

No. I am not trying to argue about that. Not at all.

Carr is Raider Curbside Trash, and Dennis Allen is a DUD. I don’t need to argue that point, because they prove it themselves.

AsylumGuido · 08-30-2024, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

No. I am not trying to argue about that. Not at all.

Carr is Raider Curbside Trash, and Dennis Allen is a DUD. I don’t need to argue that point, because they prove it themselves.

Your opinion. Fine. I simply don't agree. You've been spewing your hatred toward the two of them before Carr ever took a snap and Allen ever coached his first game for the Saints. And it is hatred. That is clear and obvious and you cannot hide it.

Sinner · 08-30-2024, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Your opinion. Fine. I simply don't agree. You've been spewing your hatred toward the two of them before Carr ever took a snap and Allen ever coached his first game for the Saints. And it is hatred. That is clear and obvious and you cannot hide it.

It’s not “hatred”. It is analysis of professional performance. You can choose to make this personal and emotional, or you can look objectively at exactly what we got.

mapcow · 08-30-2024, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Your opinion. Fine. I simply don't agree. You've been spewing your hatred toward the two of them before Carr ever took a snap and Allen ever coached his first game for the Saints. And it is hatred. That is clear and obvious and you cannot hide it.

Quido is confused, as expected.

mapcow · 08-30-2024, 03:51 PM

.500 or worse. Not with this current bunch. Truth hurts. But, hey.... lets be FANatically optimistic. Undefeated regular season... lose the first playoff game. and go at it again next year!

08-30-2024, 11:20 AM	#21
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,200	Re: '24-'25 Saints Bold Predictions Originally Posted by SmashMouth If one goes back 5 more years, Andy Dalton has more TDs. https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mos...-last-15-years It also shows he's average. Average is better than bad, but it's not top tier which is what you need when the rest of the team isn't as good (As Brees and Brady showcased, Mahomes too now) . Top tier is extremely rarely available. Average in the NFL means the QB is one of the 16-17 best at what they do in the entire world.

08-30-2024, 11:23 AM	#22
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,200	Re: '24-'25 Saints Bold Predictions Originally Posted by Sinner Don’t y’all ever get tired of trying to prove that we $uck less than some others? Don't you ever get tired of trying to prove to everyone how badly you think we suck?

08-30-2024, 11:28 AM	#23
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: '24-'25 Saints Bold Predictions Originally Posted by Sinner Don’t y’all ever get tired of trying to prove that we $uck less than some others? So you are trying to argue that Carr WAS a Turnover Machine last year. Good Luck with that. jnormand, AsylumGuido, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.

08-30-2024, 11:49 AM	#24
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,200	Re: '24-'25 Saints Bold Predictions Originally Posted by Boston Saint So you are trying to argue that Carr WAS a Turnover Machine last year. Good Luck with that. Yup. In fact, 24 QB's had as many or more interceptions than Carr's eight. Only Stroud and Pickett had a lower interception rate Than Carr's 1.5%. He was 10th in total passing TD's (25). He was 6th in completion percentage (68.4%). Twenty-two QB's (including Stroud) lost more fumbles than Carr's three. You're correct, Boston. Nobody in their right mind could think that Carr was anything close to a turnover machine. Quite the opposite. There's only one or two that protected the ball as well as did Carr last year.
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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,873	Re: '24-'25 Saints Bold Predictions Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Don't you ever get tired of trying to prove to everyone how badly you think we suck? No. I get tired of seeing us $uck not badly enough to make the necessary changes, but badly enough to not make the playoffs… AGAIN. BUT as a fan, I’ll never get tired of demanding that the BLACK AND GOLD strive for excellence, and that they DO WHATEVER IT TAKES to win a championship ASAP. We have simply been irrelevant for way too long. mapcow likes this.
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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,873	Re: '24-'25 Saints Bold Predictions Originally Posted by Boston Saint So you are trying to argue that Carr WAS a Turnover Machine last year. Good Luck with that. No. I am not trying to argue about that. Not at all. Carr is Raider Curbside Trash, and Dennis Allen is a DUD. I don’t need to argue that point, because they prove it themselves. K Major likes this.
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08-30-2024, 12:47 PM	#27
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,200	Re: '24-'25 Saints Bold Predictions Originally Posted by Sinner No. I am not trying to argue about that. Not at all. Carr is Raider Curbside Trash, and Dennis Allen is a DUD. I don’t need to argue that point, because they prove it themselves. Your opinion. Fine. I simply don't agree. You've been spewing your hatred toward the two of them before Carr ever took a snap and Allen ever coached his first game for the Saints. And it is hatred. That is clear and obvious and you cannot hide it.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,873	Re: '24-'25 Saints Bold Predictions Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Your opinion. Fine. I simply don't agree. You've been spewing your hatred toward the two of them before Carr ever took a snap and Allen ever coached his first game for the Saints. And it is hatred. That is clear and obvious and you cannot hide it. It’s not “hatred”. It is analysis of professional performance. You can choose to make this personal and emotional, or you can look objectively at exactly what we got. mapcow likes this.
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mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,753	Re: '24-'25 Saints Bold Predictions Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Your opinion. Fine. I simply don't agree. You've been spewing your hatred toward the two of them before Carr ever took a snap and Allen ever coached his first game for the Saints. And it is hatred. That is clear and obvious and you cannot hide it. Quido is confused, as expected.
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08-30-2024, 03:51 PM	#30
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,753	Re: '24-'25 Saints Bold Predictions .500 or worse. Not with this current bunch. Truth hurts. But, hey.... lets be FANatically optimistic. Undefeated regular season... lose the first playoff game. and go at it again next year!
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